Homecookers, how much meat? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Ellie May · 07-10-2007, 05:48 PM

For those who homecook and give only meat with a carb (rice, noodles...) and veggies, how much meat do you give to how much carb and veggie? Ellie gets about 50% meat to 25% carb and 25% veggie. Is this right?

marcerella02 · 07-10-2007, 06:06 PM

i'm pretty sure it is supposed to be 1/3 1/3 1/3... i follow a receipe in the Dr. Pitcairn book but i've read other places that should be the ration... too much meat is too much protien for these little ones...

Ellie May · 07-10-2007, 06:15 PM

Oh no, this is getting more confusing everyday. I asked because I read in one place that it should be 60% meat to 20% carb and veggie. Others don't feed veggies or carbs and do mostly meat.

marcerella02 · 07-10-2007, 06:21 PM

ok here is the receipe i use.. like i said it is from a guy who wrote a book (great book if you are looking for more info on home cooking it is called Dr. Pitcairn's complete guyde to natural health
ok i use this

5 cups of oats
6 cups (3 lbs) or meat
1 cup of veggies.

but there is another receipe in here that goes like this

1c brown rice
1,c meat
1. c cooked kidney beans

you are suppliementing right??? if not PM me.. we need to talk

marcerella02 · 07-10-2007, 06:22 PM

and once you get it down.. i PROMISE it is not confusing... i thought it was very overwhelming at first but not it is a piece of cake!!

Suzy · 07-10-2007, 06:34 PM

I saw this thread and was wondering this myself...I'm not sure of the exact ratio, but the ratio in Dr. Pitcairn's "Doggie Oats" is based on approximately 13 cups of ingredients (minus water), of which 5 cups are grain, 6 cups are meat, and 1 cup is veggies (the other cup is misc. supplements, vitamins, and flavorings). This means the actual RECIPE is about 38% carbs, 46% meat, and about 7.5% veggies...yet AFTER cooking the book says thsi recipe provides a protein level of 33% and 30% fat because of the ingredients used together to get this result.

So, I'm not sure exactly what the ratio should be when you are planning meals

I'm just going to follow the recipes and the instructions and things should work out

Another thing he emphasizes is QUALITY of food, and VARIETY....I think you'll be safe buying the best ingredients you can afford, and change them up a bit each time you cook for your dog. That way, you can be sure they're getting the nutrition they need.

marcerella02 · 07-10-2007, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzy

I saw this thread and was wondering this myself...I'm not sure of the exact ratio, but the ratio in Dr. Pitcairn's "Doggie Oats" is based on approximately 13 cups of ingredients (minus water), of which 5 cups are grain, 6 cups are meat, and 1 cup is veggies (the other cup is misc. supplements, vitamins, and flavorings). This means the actual RECIPE is about 38% carbs, 46% meat, and about 7.5% veggies...yet AFTER cooking the book says thsi recipe provides a protein level of 33% and 30% fat because of the ingredients used together to get this result.

So, I'm not sure exactly what the ratio should be when you are planning meals

I'm just going to follow the recipes and the instructions and things should work out

Another thing he emphasizes is QUALITY of food, and VARIETY....I think you'll be safe buying the best ingredients you can afford, and change them up a bit each time you cook for your dog. That way, you can be sure they're getting the nutrition they need.

Suzy · 07-10-2007, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcerella02

ok here is the receipe i use.. like i said it is from a guy who wrote a book (great book if you are looking for more info on home cooking it is called Dr. Pitcairn's complete guyde to natural health
ok i use this

5 cups of oats
6 cups (3 lbs) or meat
1 cup of veggies.

but there is another receipe in here that goes like this

1c brown rice
1,c meat
1. c cooked kidney beans

you are suppliementing right??? if not PM me.. we need to talk

Your book must have been closer to you than mine was to me!...maybe you can just type faster!

Great minds, I tell ya!

Only kidding-you're the one who educated ME on this!

marcerella02 · 07-10-2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzy

Your book must have been closer to you than mine was to me!...maybe you can just type faster!

Great minds, I tell ya!

Only kidding-you're the one who educated ME on this!

lol... great minds indeed!!! but look how great you are doing on educating others!!! i'm so proud

Yorkiedaze · 07-10-2007, 08:32 PM

I've recently started cooking the free range ground beef with the lamb seperately and then I add 1/8 cup of meat to 1/8th cup of the rice, lentils and split pea mixture, twice a day. They also get 1/4 of a boiled egg (whites only) and steel cut oats mixed with steamed broccoli once a day or in their breakfast.

Ellie May · 07-11-2007, 05:04 AM

So, it looks like that first recipe is 50% meat. I guess 46%. I am not sure that there is an actual answer to this because it depends on the protein level after the food is made. Ellie does get cottage cheese quite a bit for some calcium (she does better on it than yogurt). Please don't everyone yell at me at once but she doesn't get any supplement yet. This is because I cannot find any that I am comfortable with. I know most people's answer is to use human vitamins cut to their size but that is a lot of work and a lot of different things to be giving them everyday. I would not mind giving her one daily vitamin (preferrably powder form) and one calcium supplement but I have too many criteria that none of them meet. I think I will call Missing Link today and talk to them.

Lexi Rae · 07-11-2007, 05:52 AM

can i ask what kind of oats and where can i purchase some...
is it regular oatmeal that we eat??? confused

marcerella02 · 07-11-2007, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellie May

So, it looks like that first recipe is 50% meat. I guess 46%. I am not sure that there is an actual answer to this because it depends on the protein level after the food is made. Ellie does get cottage cheese quite a bit for some calcium (she does better on it than yogurt). Please don't everyone yell at me at once but she doesn't get any supplement yet. This is because I cannot find any that I am comfortable with. I know most people's answer is to use human vitamins cut to their size but that is a lot of work and a lot of different things to be giving them everyday. I would not mind giving her one daily vitamin (preferrably powder form) and one calcium supplement but I have too many criteria that none of them meet. I think I will call Missing Link today and talk to them.

lol i'ts ok that she isn't on a suppliement yet!! you have to find one you are comfortable with!!! good job for doing your research!!

marcerella02 · 07-11-2007, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lexi Rae

can i ask what kind of oats and where can i purchase some...
is it regular oatmeal that we eat??? confused

steel cut oats are very similar to regular oatmeal they just have more nutirition and if i'm not mistaken you can get them in the grocery store... Layla isn't crazy about oatmeal so she doesnt' get it very often

Lexi Rae · 07-11-2007, 06:04 AM

ok, ive been giving her regular oatmeal , i though that was it,, ooops
i have to look for the steel oats.. you think its in the same section at
the grocery stores??

07-10-2007, 05:48 PM	#1
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Homecookers, how much meat? For those who homecook and give only meat with a carb (rice, noodles...) and veggies, how much meat do you give to how much carb and veggie? Ellie gets about 50% meat to 25% carb and 25% veggie. Is this right? __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

07-10-2007, 06:06 PM	#2
marcerella02 Loved by Layla Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 11,257	i'm pretty sure it is supposed to be 1/3 1/3 1/3... i follow a receipe in the Dr. Pitcairn book but i've read other places that should be the ration... too much meat is too much protien for these little ones... __________________ http://misscanam.blogspot.com/ Layla 's Simon

07-10-2007, 06:15 PM	#3
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Oh no, this is getting more confusing everyday. I asked because I read in one place that it should be 60% meat to 20% carb and veggie. Others don't feed veggies or carbs and do mostly meat. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

07-10-2007, 06:21 PM	#4
marcerella02 Loved by Layla Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 11,257	ok here is the receipe i use.. like i said it is from a guy who wrote a book (great book if you are looking for more info on home cooking it is called Dr. Pitcairn's complete guyde to natural health ok i use this 5 cups of oats 6 cups (3 lbs) or meat 1 cup of veggies. but there is another receipe in here that goes like this 1c brown rice 1,c meat 1. c cooked kidney beans you are suppliementing right??? if not PM me.. we need to talk __________________ http://misscanam.blogspot.com/ Layla 's Simon

07-10-2007, 06:22 PM	#5
marcerella02 Loved by Layla Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 11,257	and once you get it down.. i PROMISE it is not confusing... i thought it was very overwhelming at first but not it is a piece of cake!! __________________ http://misscanam.blogspot.com/ Layla 's Simon

07-10-2007, 06:34 PM	#6
Suzy 2 Pups=Double Trouble! Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,581	I saw this thread and was wondering this myself...I'm not sure of the exact ratio, but the ratio in Dr. Pitcairn's "Doggie Oats" is based on approximately 13 cups of ingredients (minus water), of which 5 cups are grain, 6 cups are meat, and 1 cup is veggies (the other cup is misc. supplements, vitamins, and flavorings). This means the actual RECIPE is about 38% carbs, 46% meat, and about 7.5% veggies...yet AFTER cooking the book says thsi recipe provides a protein level of 33% and 30% fat because of the ingredients used together to get this result. So, I'm not sure exactly what the ratio should be when you are planning meals I'm just going to follow the recipes and the instructions and things should work out Another thing he emphasizes is QUALITY of food, and VARIETY....I think you'll be safe buying the best ingredients you can afford, and change them up a bit each time you cook for your dog. That way, you can be sure they're getting the nutrition they need. __________________ Suzy Emma & Milli What's better than loving a yorkie? Loving two yorkies! Milli 's Remi!

07-10-2007, 08:32 PM	#10
Yorkiedaze My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca. Posts: 12,228	I've recently started cooking the free range ground beef with the lamb seperately and then I add 1/8 cup of meat to 1/8th cup of the rice, lentils and split pea mixture, twice a day. They also get 1/4 of a boiled egg (whites only) and steel cut oats mixed with steamed broccoli once a day or in their breakfast.

07-11-2007, 05:04 AM	#11
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	So, it looks like that first recipe is 50% meat. I guess 46%. I am not sure that there is an actual answer to this because it depends on the protein level after the food is made. Ellie does get cottage cheese quite a bit for some calcium (she does better on it than yogurt). Please don't everyone yell at me at once but she doesn't get any supplement yet. This is because I cannot find any that I am comfortable with. I know most people's answer is to use human vitamins cut to their size but that is a lot of work and a lot of different things to be giving them everyday. I would not mind giving her one daily vitamin (preferrably powder form) and one calcium supplement but I have too many criteria that none of them meet. I think I will call Missing Link today and talk to them. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

07-11-2007, 05:52 AM	#12
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	can i ask what kind of oats and where can i purchase some... is it regular oatmeal that we eat??? confused __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...

07-11-2007, 06:04 AM	#15
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	ok, ive been giving her regular oatmeal , i though that was it,, ooops i have to look for the steel oats.. you think its in the same section at the grocery stores?? __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...