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MeiMei girl · 10-23-2004, 05:45 PM

I really need some suggestions here..........It took me 3 hours to get Mei Mei's mats out on her legs today. 5 days ago it took me 2 hours!!

It is the only place she seems to mat, but it is just awful......all 4 legs seem to mat and tangle from top to bottom.

Please anyone, if you have any suggestions or know of an excellent detangler/conditioner , please let me know. I am not going to spend hours dematting her twice per week, I about went insane today!

Higgin's Mom · 10-23-2004, 05:59 PM

My Higgins is a little slob so we keep him in a short puppy cut. One thing I noticed was his baby hair matted a lot. After we got him practically shave in his first puppy cut, his coat got a lot silkier. There are several threads where members talk about which brands of conditioners and detanglers to use.......

fasteddie · 10-24-2004, 11:00 AM

Yes check out this thread:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ght=detangling

Hope it works for ya!

MeiMei girl · 10-24-2004, 07:50 PM

Thanks for the link, Fasteddie!!

Babbie · 10-25-2004, 08:36 AM

Is Mei-Mei coat silky or cottony? It is very hard to keep a cottony coat long so a lot of people just keep them in a puppy cut.

I know some people that have shaved their yorkies for the coat to grown thicker, they say it worked and it doesn't tangle as much.

Diesel · 10-25-2004, 08:55 AM

Does their coat get coarse and not so soft if you cut it often?

MeiMei girl · 10-25-2004, 11:04 AM

Babbie, I am not sure really what her coat is......... I am kindof new to all this.

It seems thick to the touch, and after I brush her leg hair, it seems to go right back to 'chunky' pieces......Hope that makes sense! LOL!

My Shih Tzu's coat is different.......feels very soft and kindof fine, does not mat hardly at all. If it does, I am able to brush through with no problems and without tearing out the hair.

What do you guys think?? Would she be more of cottony?

Babbie · 10-26-2004, 01:50 PM

The "standard" yorkshire should have a silky coat, like the name suggests, it should feel like silk, your fingers run through it easily, it does not matt often, and should be easy to work with. My friend has a s**tzu and her coat is way thicker than Mojo's. Maybe you can ask a friend or even some groomer that have experience with yorkies to help you decide if her coat is cottony or silky, it can also be a mix, it's kinda confusing..i know

But after your decide what type of coat she has it will be easier to treat.
My friend that completely shaved her yorkie say that after that the hair is thicker so it has more body to it. Still mats often but it is easier to work it out since it doesn't break as much, she just takes a lot of care to keep the coat moisturized at all times, it is also very important that you don't brush a dry and dirty coat.

MeiMei girl · 10-27-2004, 06:59 AM

Hmm. I don't think Mei Mei has the 'silky' coat.

I now have to brush her leg hair once or twice a day to keep it from matting. Yesterday it took me about 1 hour to get the tangles out. She was brushed the day before.

This is extremely frusterating. I don't have time to spend hours each day dematting her. I do have the time to give her a good brushing daily.

According to the breeder, she is going to be the black and gold coat, not the silver/bluish color. And I think I did read somewhere that the black and gold is a little harder to maintain because it is not as soft and silky. Has anyone heard of that?

Babbie · 10-28-2004, 08:26 AM

I donnou if the color of the coat has anything to do with the texture, personally, i doubt that. Mojo's coat is still very dark but i noticed it is getting a little lighter...the change of colors may take years to happen but it depends on genetics. Did you see Mei-Mei's parents? That could help you have a good idea about her coat

I would recomend that you use moisturizing shampoos and conditioners on Mei Mei, i just learned this trick from a show breeder, but he uses a little of neutragene moiturizing body oil mixed with water to brush daily, he says it is wonderful to keep the coat from matting. It's worth a try

Chester · 10-28-2004, 06:45 PM

I would sugest you purchase this product
DETANGLING SHAMPOO from http://www.blessthebeasts.net/btb_online.html

I use it on chester and chelsey, I only brush chester once a week no matts. his coat is really soft and nice now. Since we got it. We can not get in the store anymore..so now we have to order it online. You just brush while you give the bath. do you not need to blow dry after. Hope this helps .

p.s chester use to get matts all the time . NO more

ldenise · 10-28-2004, 06:53 PM

Buckeye matts very easily also. especially under his "arms" and chest area and hiney. His coat is cottony. His hair is about medium length. I use pet silk products and I think the moisturizing shampoo and moisturizing rinse does a better job than the detangling shampoo & rinse. If I didn't brush him good a couple times a day he would be a mess. I brush him first thing in the morning and then again in late afternoon. and if i sit down to watch tv in between (ha ha).
ahia gets it too but her coat is different. she could go a couple of days without a brushing and still not tangle. althought she doesn't.
oh yes and I also use a pin brush. I find the ends don't split as much as when I used boar bristle. Pet silk also has a product called liquid silk that is good too. I suppose there are lots of products that is good and better even but I am pleased with what I use now.

ldenise · 10-28-2004, 06:57 PM

sorry I meant to add ..........
ygeorge..this "bless the beast" product is that only a canadian product? I'd like to try that sometime. Maybe next ordering time I can try that.

MeiMei girl · 10-28-2004, 07:18 PM

Thanks so much for the product suggestions!! Not sure what to try.........found a show breeder online that swears using Coat Handlers for a cottony coat. I guess I will have to try different products.

Babbie, I did see Mei Mei's parents, and both had a full black coat with the gold head. Their coat did not seem silky to me..........

MeiMei girl · 10-29-2004, 09:33 AM

After doing some research, my little Mei Mei has what you call a 'woolly' coat........which is usually black and gold. A woolly coat is really not the 'correct' coat for a yorkie, but I don't care. I don't show so it doesn't bother me. The breeder did tell me that she wouldn't have the silver blue coat compared to the other little female I was looking at.

Characteristics of this coat is : thick, slight wave on the end, usually black.

Advantage: They need bathing less frequently, about every 2-3 weeks.

Disadvantage: The coat can be hard to maintain, and will tangle easily.

Owners usually cut down to a puppy cut.

Now the hunt is on for a good and proper shampoo/conditioner for this coat type.

Anyone else have this kind of coat?? Am I the only one?

10-23-2004, 05:45 PM	#1
MeiMei girl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 63	Please Help!! I really need some suggestions here..........It took me 3 hours to get Mei Mei's mats out on her legs today. 5 days ago it took me 2 hours!! It is the only place she seems to mat, but it is just awful......all 4 legs seem to mat and tangle from top to bottom. Please anyone, if you have any suggestions or know of an excellent detangler/conditioner , please let me know. I am not going to spend hours dematting her twice per week, I about went insane today! __________________ Mei Mei

10-24-2004, 07:50 PM	#4
MeiMei girl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 63	Thanks for the link, Fasteddie!! __________________ Mei Mei

10-25-2004, 11:04 AM	#7
MeiMei girl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 63	Babbie, I am not sure really what her coat is......... I am kindof new to all this. It seems thick to the touch, and after I brush her leg hair, it seems to go right back to 'chunky' pieces......Hope that makes sense! LOL! My Shih Tzu's coat is different.......feels very soft and kindof fine, does not mat hardly at all. If it does, I am able to brush through with no problems and without tearing out the hair. What do you guys think?? Would she be more of cottony? __________________ Mei Mei

10-27-2004, 06:59 AM	#9
MeiMei girl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 63	Hmm. I don't think Mei Mei has the 'silky' coat. I now have to brush her leg hair once or twice a day to keep it from matting. Yesterday it took me about 1 hour to get the tangles out. She was brushed the day before. This is extremely frusterating. I don't have time to spend hours each day dematting her. I do have the time to give her a good brushing daily. According to the breeder, she is going to be the black and gold coat, not the silver/bluish color. And I think I did read somewhere that the black and gold is a little harder to maintain because it is not as soft and silky. Has anyone heard of that? __________________ Mei Mei

10-28-2004, 06:53 PM	#12
ldenise YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rancho Viejo, Tx Posts: 2,698	Buckeye matts very easily also. especially under his "arms" and chest area and hiney. His coat is cottony. His hair is about medium length. I use pet silk products and I think the moisturizing shampoo and moisturizing rinse does a better job than the detangling shampoo & rinse. If I didn't brush him good a couple times a day he would be a mess. I brush him first thing in the morning and then again in late afternoon. and if i sit down to watch tv in between (ha ha). ahia gets it too but her coat is different. she could go a couple of days without a brushing and still not tangle. althought she doesn't. oh yes and I also use a pin brush. I find the ends don't split as much as when I used boar bristle. Pet silk also has a product called liquid silk that is good too. I suppose there are lots of products that is good and better even but I am pleased with what I use now. __________________ Buckeye, Ahia, Tressie, Archie & LDenise Dogs are really people with short legs in fur coats

10-23-2004, 05:59 PM	#2
Higgin's Mom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 852	My Higgins is a little slob so we keep him in a short puppy cut. One thing I noticed was his baby hair matted a lot. After we got him practically shave in his first puppy cut, his coat got a lot silkier. There are several threads where members talk about which brands of conditioners and detanglers to use.......

10-24-2004, 11:00 AM	#3
fasteddie *YT 6000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,238	Yes check out this thread: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ght=detangling Hope it works for ya!

10-25-2004, 08:36 AM	#5
Babbie Got Mojo? Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 1,117	Is Mei-Mei coat silky or cottony? It is very hard to keep a cottony coat long so a lot of people just keep them in a puppy cut. I know some people that have shaved their yorkies for the coat to grown thicker, they say it worked and it doesn't tangle as much.

10-25-2004, 08:55 AM	#6
Diesel Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 23	Does their coat get coarse and not so soft if you cut it often?

10-26-2004, 01:50 PM	#8
Babbie Got Mojo? Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 1,117	The "standard" yorkshire should have a silky coat, like the name suggests, it should feel like silk, your fingers run through it easily, it does not matt often, and should be easy to work with. My friend has a s**tzu and her coat is way thicker than Mojo's. Maybe you can ask a friend or even some groomer that have experience with yorkies to help you decide if her coat is cottony or silky, it can also be a mix, it's kinda confusing..i know But after your decide what type of coat she has it will be easier to treat. My friend that completely shaved her yorkie say that after that the hair is thicker so it has more body to it. Still mats often but it is easier to work it out since it doesn't break as much, she just takes a lot of care to keep the coat moisturized at all times, it is also very important that you don't brush a dry and dirty coat.

10-28-2004, 08:26 AM	#10
Babbie Got Mojo? Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 1,117	I donnou if the color of the coat has anything to do with the texture, personally, i doubt that. Mojo's coat is still very dark but i noticed it is getting a little lighter...the change of colors may take years to happen but it depends on genetics. Did you see Mei-Mei's parents? That could help you have a good idea about her coat I would recomend that you use moisturizing shampoos and conditioners on Mei Mei, i just learned this trick from a show breeder, but he uses a little of neutragene moiturizing body oil mixed with water to brush daily, he says it is wonderful to keep the coat from matting. It's worth a try

10-28-2004, 06:45 PM	#11
Chester YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada, mississauga Posts: 251	I would sugest you purchase this product DETANGLING SHAMPOO from http://www.blessthebeasts.net/btb_online.html I use it on chester and chelsey, I only brush chester once a week no matts. his coat is really soft and nice now. Since we got it. We can not get in the store anymore..so now we have to order it online. You just brush while you give the bath. do you not need to blow dry after. Hope this helps . p.s chester use to get matts all the time . NO more

10-28-2004, 06:57 PM	#13
ldenise YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rancho Viejo, Tx Posts: 2,698	sorry I meant to add .......... ygeorge..this "bless the beast" product is that only a canadian product? I'd like to try that sometime. Maybe next ordering time I can try that. __________________ Buckeye, Ahia, Tressie, Archie & LDenise Dogs are really people with short legs in fur coats

10-28-2004, 07:18 PM	#14
MeiMei girl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 63	Thanks so much for the product suggestions!! Not sure what to try.........found a show breeder online that swears using Coat Handlers for a cottony coat. I guess I will have to try different products. Babbie, I did see Mei Mei's parents, and both had a full black coat with the gold head. Their coat did not seem silky to me.......... __________________ Mei Mei

10-29-2004, 09:33 AM	#15
MeiMei girl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 63	After doing some research, my little Mei Mei has what you call a 'woolly' coat........which is usually black and gold. A woolly coat is really not the 'correct' coat for a yorkie, but I don't care. I don't show so it doesn't bother me. The breeder did tell me that she wouldn't have the silver blue coat compared to the other little female I was looking at. Characteristics of this coat is : thick, slight wave on the end, usually black. Advantage: They need bathing less frequently, about every 2-3 weeks. Disadvantage: The coat can be hard to maintain, and will tangle easily. Owners usually cut down to a puppy cut. Now the hunt is on for a good and proper shampoo/conditioner for this coat type. Anyone else have this kind of coat?? Am I the only one? __________________ Mei Mei