Again skin with yeast

[anakarydas]

My Yorkie Max has been having trouble with his skin since I adopted him..... It looks like el3phant's skin..... and stinks solo bad.... again...
First vet:
Temaril-P 30 pills
Baytril 14 pills


2nd Vet:
Rilexyn ( cepha) 28 pills
Maltese Shampoo


3rd Vet:
Ketoconazole 6 pills
Simplicef 11 pills
Hydroxyzine HCL 90 pills
Prednisone 6 pills




Max is on Wellness white fish and sweet potatoes food.


H E L Pl...!!!!

[Yorkiemom1]

My brother had a beagle with horrific allergies/skin condition....my brother movede off with his job, and we were left with Sparky, trying to get this unfortunate, illbred soul relief from this horrific skin issue....my brother even PAID a DERMATOLOGIST to fly down to Houston from Dallas (there were none here in Houston when we were going thru this with Sparky), to treat this dog...the vet came once a week for 7 weeks, then every 2 weeks for another period of time, then once a month for the rest of that dogs life. You can only imagine the fortune it cost my brother to try to get this dog treated successfully and healed......

I hope you have access to a vet dermatologist specialist....if not, then a vet school. I have been where you are, I am praying for you and this unfortunate baby.....but it CAN be treated and the misery can be relieved....you just need the proper guidance from a specialist.....

I just now see you are in Houston....perhaps A&M will be able to resolve this issue....ladyjane has a group of specialists on the other side of town....hopefully she will come on here and get involved with some names of specialists that can help you!

[Yorkiemom1]

I found this article in my computer....almost all of my information was lost when these dad gum computers flat out died.....here is a little....

"Eliminate or cut way back on the amount of carbohydrates in your dog's diet. Feed a high meat diet. Consider this recipe for Carb-free Dog Food.
Feed nutritious supplements that support immune and digestive tract function; like Dinovite for Dogs and LickOchops Omega Fatty Acid Supplement.
Examine your pup's treats. Toss out anything loaded with grains, fillers, dyes, preservatives and artificial flavoring. Choose meaty treats like NubOnubs, no fillers, preservatives, carbs, just the goodness that is a real treat.
Get rid of shampoos that contain harsh chemicals, perfumes and colorings. Choose a natural shampoo like DogOsuds Essential Oil Blend shampoo.
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Yeast In Dogs
What Causes Yeast In Dogs:
Yeast in dogs is caused by a yeast called Candida albicans. Candida albicans, is an opportunistic yeast, that normally inhabits the body and intestinal tract of our pets (and people as well). The job of Candida albicans in dogs is to recognize and destroy harmful bacteria. In a healthy dog's body, Candida albicans is controlled by a properly-functioning immune system and "friendly" bacteria (gut flora). However, if a dog's immune system is weakened, the number of friendly bacteria decreases and Candida albicans will shift from yeast form (a non-invasive, sugar-fermenting organism) to fungal form. (Invasive, mucosa damaging) - yeast overgrowth begins.

Candida albicans can hit all parts of the dog’s skin and mucous membranes, but humid places are the preferred area.

Symptoms Of Yeast:
• Dog has stinky skin that comes from the inside. Does your dog stink right after a bath?

• Dog has goopy, stinky ears. Do you clean and deodorize your dog's ears continually?

• Dog has irritated skin, paw licking and skin rashes. Are you up all night listening to your dog lick and dig?

• Dog has oily fur, flaky skin and brittle coat. Do you hesitate to pet your dog because of what ends up on your hands? Does your house smell like your "stale frito" dog?"

Maybe this will help...I completely understand your confusion and desperation and running in circles....stop, take a deep breath, and formulate a plan of attack from information you can garner on this condition....I will see if I have anything else....

[Yorkiemom1]

How a Yeast Infection Occurs

On the immune system spectrum, balance is in the middle, and that's what you want your dog's immune function to be – balanced.
An underactive immune system can lead to yeast overgrowth, because it can't control the balance. The other end of the spectrum is an overactive immune response where allergies are present. This can also lead to problems with yeast.

When a traditional veterinarian sees a dog with allergies – a sign of an overactive immune system – he or she will typically prescribe steroid therapy to shut off the immune response. (This improves symptoms but does not fix the underlying cause of the allergies.)

When your dog's immune system is turned off with drugs, it can't do its job of regulating and balancing normal flora levels, so your pet ends up with yeast blooms.

When conventional vets see dogs with allergies and possibly secondary skin infections, often they prescribe antibiotics. Antibiotics are well-known to destroy all good bacteria along with the bad, wiping out healthy yeast levels in the process, so these drugs often make a bad situation worse.
Another reason an allergic dog, in particular, can end up with a lot of yeast is he can actually develop an allergy to his yeast. Intradermal tests often reveal that a dog is having an allergic response to his own natural flora.
So dogs with an underactive immune system or that are immuno-suppressed can end up with a yeast infection, as well as dogs that have overactive immune systems, or allergies.

Signs and Symptoms of a Yeasty Dog

Definitive diagnosis by a vet of a yeast infection is accomplished either by cytology (looking at a skin swab under a microscope) or by culturing (submitting a sterile swab of the skin to the lab where the cells are grown and identified on a petri dish).

But as a pet owner, you'll be able to tell if your dog has a yeast infection just by her smell. Yeast has a very characteristic odor. Some people think it smells like moldy bread; others liken the odor to cheese popcorn or corn chips. In fact, some people refer to a yeast infection of a dog's paws as 'Frito Feet.' It's a pungent, musty, unpleasant smell.
Another sign your dog is yeasty is scratching. Yeast overgrowth is tremendously itchy. If it's a problem with her paws, she won't be able to leave them alone. The same goes for her ears. A lot of butt scooting can also be a clue.

If your dog is spending a lot of time digging at herself to relieve intense itching, take heed. Whether it's a bacterial or yeast infection, she needs your help to solve the problem.

Step #1 in Clearing a Yeast Infection: Address the Diet

If your pet is dealing with yeast overgrowth, there are a couple of things you'll need to do.

Number one, you must address his diet. It's rare that a dog has yeast in just one spot – one ear, for example. If that's the case with your pet, you can probably get by just treating that ear for yeast and keeping your fingers crossed his immune system responds to re-balance his natural flora.

But if your dog, like the majority, has yeast in more than one spot, for example on all four paws or both ears, or especially if his entire body is yeasty, you have no choice but to look at what he's eating.

Diet is the foundation of health. The way you nourish your dog is either going to help his immune system manage yeast, or it's going to feed a potential or existing yeast overgrowth situation.

I encourage you to put your pet on what I call an 'anti-yeast diet.' The beauty of an anti-yeast diet is it is also an anti-inflammatory and species-appropriate diet.

Yeast needs sugar as a source of energy. Carbohydrates break down into sugar. Both MDs and veterinarians advise patients with yeast to get the sugars out of their diets.

Dietary sugar isn't just the white kind added to many pet treats and some pet foods. There are 'secret,' hidden forms of sugar that can also feed yeast overgrowth, for instance, honey. Although honey can be beneficial for pets in some cases, it does provide a food source for yeast. So if your dog is yeasty, you'll need to carefully read his pet food and treat labels and avoid any product containing honey, high fructose corn syrup, and even white potatoes and sweet potatoes.

If your dog has a significant yeast problem, I recommend you go entirely sugar-free. Feed low-glycemic veggies. Eliminate potatoes, corn, wheat, rice – all the carbohydrates need to go away in a sugar-free diet. This is really an important step. I wish I could tell you yeast is easy to treat and avoid without addressing diet, but it isn't. Your pet needs to eat a diet that helps keep his normal flora levels healthy and balanced.

The second thing I recommend is adding some natural anti-fungal foods to his diet, like a small amount of garlic or oregano. These foods are both anti-fungal and anti-yeast and can be beneficial in helping reduce the yeast level in your dog's body.

Disinfecting Yeasty Ears
In addition to providing an anti-yeast diet and anti-fungal foods, the third thing you must do to help your dog overcome a yeast infection is to disinfect yeasty body parts.
In human medicine, it is routine for internists and dermatologists to give patients with yeast specific protocols for cleaning affected parts of the body. The same instruction is rarely given in veterinary medicine, which makes no sense and is really a shame.

Typically, a vet will hand a client with a yeasty dog a cream, salve or dip, with instructions to just keep applying it to the infected area. The problem with this approach is that as yeast dies off, it forms layer of dead yeast on top of layer of dead yeast. Unless you remove the dead layers of yeast and disinfect the skin, adding loads of ointment to layers of dead yeast can actually exacerbate the problem.

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[Yorkiemom1]

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So disinfecting the parts of your dog's body that are yeasty is very important. There's no pill or cream that can disinfect your pet – you must do that yourself.
If your pet's ears are yeasty, you'll have to disinfect them daily. Just as some people produce lots of earwax and clean their ears daily, while others produce almost no earwax, the same applies to dogs. Some almost never need their ears cleaned, while others need a daily cleaning.
If you check your dog's ears and they're clean, dry and have no odor, you can skip a day of cleaning. Again, the amount of cleaning should correlate with the amount of debris built up in the ear. If you don't clean out that debris, it won't magically disappear on its own. It will grow from wax, to yeast, to a fulminating bacterial infection unless you deal with it.

You can disinfect your dog's ears with either a store bought solution or with witch hazel and large cotton balls. Use as many cotton balls as it takes to remove all the debris from the ears at each cleaning. Do not put Q-tips down into the canals of your dog's ears.

Disinfecting Yeasty Paws
Yeast thrives in a moist environment and in crevices – between your dog's foot pads, for example, in armpit and groin creases, and around the vulva and anus. So disinfecting those parts of a yeasty dog is really important.

Since the only body parts that sweat on your dog are his nose and the pads of his feet, during hot humid months when yeast tends to thrive, you'll need to disinfect those paws.

Depending on the size of your dog, you can use one of those Rubbermaid sweater boxes filled with water from a hose, or if your dog is small you can just pop him in the kitchen or bathroom sink. The goal is to dunk the feet, then pat them dry.

Spraying or wiping down a dog's paws won't get the job done. Yeast lives under the nail beds and in all the creases you can't get to if the paws aren't submerged in a foot soak.

I recommend a gallon of water, a cup of hydrogen peroxide, and 1-4 cups of white vinegar as a foot soak solution. You can use this solution as many times a day as necessary to keep your dog's feet clean. 'Clean and dry' needs to become your mantra.

After you dip your dog's feet in the astringent solution of water/hydrogen peroxide/white vinegar, there's no need to rinse. Just pat the paws dry. Leaving the solution dried on your dog's paws serves as an antifungal and should also reduce licking and digging at the paws.

Anti-Yeast Baths and Rinses

If your dog has yeast overgrowth on her skin, I recommend disinfecting her entire body with a natural, anti-fungal shampoo. And yes, you can do this as often as necessary.
It's no longer true that you shouldn't bathe dogs regularly. Back in the days of very harsh shampoos made from coal and tar derivatives, this was good advice. But there are now plenty of safe shampoos on the market that will not over dry your pet's skin or damage her coat.

Since carbs and grains ultimately feed yeast overgrowth, I don't recommend you use oatmeal-based shampoos. Oatmeal is a grain which provides a food source for that yeast on your dog's skin.

Use an anti-fungal shampoo made from, for example, tea tree oil or an herbal blend. These will help control the amount of yeast growing on your pet.

I also recommend anti-fungal rinses during the summer months, from one to three times per week after shampooing. I use a gallon of water with a cup of vinegar or a cup of lemon juice. You can also use 20 drops of peppermint oil. All three will make your pooch smell nice.
After shampooing with, say, a tea tree shampoo and rinsing thoroughly, follow with one of these natural anti-fungal astringent rinses to knock down the amount of yeast.
You should never pour these rinses over your dog's head or into her eyes. Pour from the collar, back. Pour the gallon of solution over her and rub it into her coat and skin, focusing on body parts that tend to grow yeast -- armpits, feet, groin area and around the tail. Then towel dry without rinsing. Your dog will not only feel better, the yeast won't replicate as quickly.

One word of warning about using both lemon juice and hydrogen peroxide: they can bleach a black dog's fur. If you have a black coated dog, you should go with vinegar to avoid a lightening effect.

For Dogs with Stubborn or Recurring Yeast Infections

For many dogs, yeast problems are seasonal. When the temperature and humidity levels rise each year, they get yeasty and stinky. If this is the case with your dog, the summer months are when you'll need to be vigilant about disinfecting your pet and addressing any dietary issues that might be contributing to the problem.

However, if your dog has year-round yeast problems – whether it's 90 degrees outside or the dead of winter – you should be thinking about potential immune system issues.
If your dog is overwhelmed with an opportunistic pathogen like yeast, it's likely his immune system isn't operating at 100 percent.
In my practice, when I see a pet with a stubborn yeast infection, I do immune testing to measure his immunoglobulin levels (IgG, IgM and IgA). Generally these levels are low in a dog with constant yeast overgrowth.
If your dog is producing healthy levels of immunoglobulins, he should be able to overcome almost any infection, and particularly an opportunistic yeast infection.

[Wylie's Mom]

Get thee to a Vet Derm asap....bc in the long run, believe me, they will be cheaper by far...as compared to con't to go back to your generalist vet.

Should be tested for thyroid issues, and maybe Cushings ruled out at least. Sounds like she could use the regimen of Diflucan x 6 weeks for the yeast situation, which sounds systemic.

[anakarydas]

Thanks for your help.


I am going to look for a specialist ( dermatology) and hope that Max gets finally a good and effective treatment.


I went to buy beef meat, may be the sugar en the Wellness food is causing the yeast.


Thanks again......

[richards6402]

Thank you Yorkiemom1 for the great article. Can anyone recommend an antifungal shampoo they use.

[lucyaboo]

I had just read the article, that Yorkiemom1 shared, this week ~ it's by Dr. Becker...great information. I researched for shampoo for Pebbles (my yeasty girl) & ordered 2 kinds to try, 1st being 'BE SUPER CLEAN' & the 2nd 'MALASEB'
I don't have them yet, but will post back with the results. Please research which shampoos would be good for your pup. Important things about the ones I picked is ~ Don't get it in their eyes AND don't let them lick the shampoo. Because of this, I think I will skip using it on their face area for now...I have a doggie facial soap I will use.

[kalega]

My baby had black crusty spots on his tummy near his penis. I thought they were moles but the Vet just peeled on off and said an infection due to moisture. The vet didn't test if it was bacterial or yeast but recommended to clip him very short in that area. I had his groomer 'shave' that area.

I found a site on the internet that recommended using dilute povidone iodine because it is safe if they lick it. It has helped to remove the crusty spots and keep any more from developing.

A Simple Remedy to Treat Dog Skin Infection

[107barney]

Originally Posted by anakarydas

Thanks for your help.


I am going to look for a specialist ( dermatology) and hope that Max gets finally a good and effective treatment.


I went to buy beef meat, may be the sugar en the Wellness food is causing the yeast.


Thanks again......

I've battled yeast infections for my Daisy her whole life...she's almost 16. Our vet derm put her on Atopica about 10 years ago and we treat the skin infections with oral fluconazole and simplicef if she flares. We do maleseb baths 1-2x a week. Our dog also has food allergies and did well on a home cooked diet. She's eaten a hydrolyzed dog food in the past as well (Purina HA). I highly doubt that your dog's food is causing the yeast, but she might benefit from a diet change. I would get a handle on the skin before I went crazy with the diet.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by richards6402

Thank you Yorkiemom1 for the great article. Can anyone recommend an antifungal shampoo they use.

Take that article with grain of salt. I use maleseb. Great stuff.

[lucyaboo]

Originally Posted by lucyaboo

I had just read the article, that Yorkiemom1 shared, this week ~ it's by Dr. Becker...great information. I researched for shampoo for Pebbles (my yeasty girl) & ordered 2 kinds to try, 1st being 'BE SUPER CLEAN' & the 2nd 'MALASEB'

So far I like Malaseb, it's a process here for Pebs. Besides the fact I think this will really help Pebs by following the directions, I also like that there is no fragrance in Malaseb.I intended to use the Be Super Clean for regular bathing on the other pups & for Pebs when she's better. But it has a strong scent, so I'm not so sure now...

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by lucyaboo

So far I like Malaseb, it's a process here for Pebs. Besides the fact I think this will really help Pebs by following the directions, I also like that there is no fragrance in Malaseb.I intended to use the Be Super Clean for regular bathing on the other pups & for Pebs when she's better. But it has a strong scent, so I'm not so sure now...

May want to also add this to the mix: Amazon
This is the shampoo most Vet Derms will sell - but at about double the price. The Malaseb is good too, but you could alternate w/ this one as well.

[dannbarbery]

Thank you all guys for those recommendations. The number 1 reason I guess is the type of diet that your dog is in. I've a maltese that has a very sensitive skin too and as of now she is in a science diet. Haven't tried using some products since her condition is not severe.