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02-15-2010, 06:52 PM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tennessee, Georgia
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| breeding a male also considering neutering advice ok so i havent got osiris neutered yet , im wanting to breed him as he is registered as a stud. Is it worth it is my question ? he is a year old and i need some opinions on what is best. I want the best for him and nothing to happen and to be as healthy as he can be. |
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02-15-2010, 07:07 PM | #2 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Hi, after reading how breeding changes the male, I wouldn't want to breed Joey. Once they mate, they become much more interested in girls, and can smell a bitch in heat 10 miles away. They will mark a lot also, and the smell it much stronger than a neutered dog. Most good breeders have their own studs, so you'll only be attracting bad breeders who are breeding just for the money. Also, I read that many owners of the stud never get any money for the service, and some have tried to take friends to court because of this. Breeding should be done with a purpose. Your dog should be one of the best examples of the breed, and he should have a through health screening to make sure he's not passing genetic illnesses. The female can also pass STD's even though it's her first time. Most good breeders know the line at least three generations, and breed for specific qualities. I encourage everyone to do what they can to help eliminate the problems brought on by poor breeding. Unneutered males are more likely to die from injuries caused by a car accident than any other reason; they tend to run away. I hope you do much more research before you make your decision. I think it's best to have your boy neutered, and enjoy him as a pet. By the way, he's adorable!
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02-15-2010, 07:13 PM | #3 |
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| certain age thanks that was very helpful yeah he has had a screening and he is in really good health. Can he get too old to be neutered like does he have to be a certain age and younger? |
02-15-2010, 07:16 PM | #4 |
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| I had the talk with my vet when Joey was 6mths old, we decided to let him age a little more since he was so delicate (whimpered at anything) he should have been a girl. Anyways, my family all wanted a "Joey" and even though we did not plan a litter, He and my female got together (this was two weeks after we thought she had finished her cycle). When she had the puppies, Joey started hikeing and marking everything in site. I now have to put belly bands on him or he will spray. Unless you truly want to have a litter of puppies, I would strongly recommend having the snip snip done. Also a litter of puppies are not as easy as it sounds and Cabella had six and raised each one herself. I would have to help three of them at each feeding due to them forgetting how to nurse. I had to hand feed moma every two hours and then the second week start to supplement feed the pups. Weeks 8 thru 12 is a nightmare. They pee and poo and run through it get it on the others and escape from the lot. (due to us riging up a lot in our den) Then finding the homes for them, I was cursed out in my own home, because I wouldn't sell one of the small females to a lady that wanted to use her for a breeding machine. I won't do it again, Joey is getting his procedure done. Our vet took one of the males, so I know they must have been good puppies. Good luck in your decision |
02-15-2010, 09:03 PM | #5 |
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| I saw this thread and I thought it had lots of good information. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...ant-breed.html I hope it helps!
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02-16-2010, 09:39 AM | #6 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | When a vet tails you he's in good heath, he hasn't doesn't know if he is in good genetic health, lots of things don't show up till later, but there are specific tests breeders can do, to rule out some things. These tests are costly, and not really worth it unless you plan on breeding, so my guess is he hasn't had the tests. A dog can be neutered at any age, I think under 8 months is best because it reduces the chances of marking, but it good at any age, and reduces the risks for some cancers. When Joey was neutered, we also had the vet pull remaining baby teeth, since he was under anyway. Yorkies have a hard time losing all their baby teeth, and this double row of teeth can cause many tooth problems later on. So please ask the vet about this, no matter what decision you make. A Yorkie's teeth is really its week spot, and if you don't properly care for them, they could start losing permanent teeth by the age of three.
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02-16-2010, 10:11 AM | #7 |
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| oh my well thanks for the teeth information yeah hes a year old next month and he was loosing teeth like everyday till the past two months. Well he went to get a DNA test to prove what line he was in and everything and they give you a background of puppys relatives and since i bought him from a breeder she was in a way encouraging me to breed him , but he is my life and i look out for his health more than anything i just know i want to keep him for as long as possible and if neutering keeps his life span longer and keep him from getting cancer then id rather do that. Im just so confused bc there is a forum on here that a lady posted about bad things that can happen after you neuter a dog, which involved getting other types of cancer...so i dont know which way to go . He is also housed potty trained and id hate to mess that up. Even if i dont neuter is it ok to not breed him? Im just so confused on what to do :[ the vets tell you to do it , then there are people who are telling me not to. My mother had a pomeranian who was neutered at the age of 1 and it was housed trained but after the procedure she could never get it back to being potty trained! It peed everywhere after it was neutered and to this day still will. |
02-16-2010, 10:48 AM | #8 | |
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There's probably no issue in the world that everyone agrees on, some people still believe the earth's flat! When deciding what right for you and your dog, you have to look at lots of information, and try to find out where that information is coming from. In the past, men mostly, were dead set against neutering male dogs; I guess they take it too personally! People said they didn't want their dogs to change, but if you allow them to go fully through puberty, and mate, they will no doubt change; they are no longer a sweet little boy, but more like a raging hormones teenage boy. Some of the advice on not neutering comes from vets who are associated with breeding and showing, some of their advice might be given in the attempt to reduce breeders fears, I mean just because a dog isn't neutered it doesn't mean he will get cancer. Personally, I see the risk from automobile accidents the main threat. Joey would try to run out the front door every chance he got before he was neutered, after neutering training was so much easier. My guess is your breeder wants you to breed because she would like to use your dog as a stud, someone else is taking care of her dog, yet she can use it however she sees fit. Does your breeder show; are their champs on both sides of the bloodline? If that's the case, you should have your dog evaluated by someone who does show and understands that only those dogs that fully meet standard, should be breed. We do have an overload of pets right now; millions of dogs are being put to death each day. Our yorkie rescues are turning away dogs, and people are continuing to breed, unhealthy dogs. You probably wonder what my motive is in encouraging you not to breed. Before I came to Yorkietalk, I was a lot like you, but in the past I bought a dog from a backyard breeder who didn't test for genetic illnesses and breed a pup that was too closely related to the father, when that's done the recessive gene has a chance to rear it's ugly head, and my little dog got a genetic illness that paralyzed him around the age of 6, he lived another year, but it was a really tough year for him and my children. The breeder wasn't a bad person, she just didn't know enough about breeding, you have to study this just like you do any hobby or profession, you can just hook up two dogs together, but that’s what most breeders do. There's an old saying, if you're not part of the solution, your part of the problem, so that's why I encourage others not to breed. I just want to add that most of the advice you will see here is just from pet owners who love their dog, and want the best for them!
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02-16-2010, 02:57 PM | #9 | |
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This is a wonderful, educated reply based on issues SO much more important than fearing if neutering will interfer with an already potty trained Yorkie.. (Honestly I didn't know they excisted). You are already on the road to making an educated choice by asking folks that know breeding and from the ones that decided NOT to breed because of the reasons listed here. Neuter that little guy and just love him to pieces!!!
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