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livingdustmops · 10-10-2009, 09:11 AM

Why did the chicken cross the road? To get on a ship in China
Mitch Lipka
Oct 8th 2009 at 6:10PM MoreText SizeAAAFiled under: Food, Consumer Ally

So, the U.S. Senate and House have agreed that it is now time to give consumers another Chinese product to help lower production costs, create more jobs overseas and increase corporate profits: chicken.

Chinese chicken imports had been banned for the past couple of years after Congress put the kibosh on a trade plan from the Bush administration in 2007. A U.S. Department of Agriculture inspection of Chinese poultry plants in 2004 documented poor sanitary conditions.

But the Obama administration appears to have succeeded where Bush failed, convincing Congress that Chinese chickens are good for relations with our manufacturing friends in the Far East.

Politics is great for delivering examples of how failure can be a good thing.

Shouldn't the line be drawn somewhere? Processed chicken seems like a good place to start.

Let's be clear: Chinese products are with us everywhere and the lower prices that come with them have become addictive to consumers.

Electronic equipment, toys, and even candy comes here by the freighter load and consumers buy it by the truckload. Some of it -- not that China has cornered the market on it -- is utter junk. And products made in China tend not only dominate what we find in discount stores, but also the list of products that are recalled due to defects or violations of safety rules.

American companies, such as chicken-producing giant Tyson Foods, played a role in pushing for the agreement that will open the doors to Chinese chicken products in the U.S. It owns chicken farms in China, and stands to profit mightily from the lower cost of doing business in China. Who can blame them?

The Chinese track record with food safety is abysmal. Less than a year ago, Chinese health officials (pictured above) killed and disposed of tens of thousands of chickens exposed to the avian flu. That was about the same time nearly 300,000 Chinese babies took ill after drinking melamine-tainted powdered milk. And, as it turns out, melamine also was found in chicken feed and, of course, in Chinese chicken products.

But Congress agreed to open the markets here to Chinese chicken provided an inspection process was instituted that supposedly would ensure Chinese chicken production would meet U.S. standards. That provision crumbled the opposition. U.S. Rep. Rosa Delauro, D-Conn., previously an opponent, explained in an article she penned for Roll Call that enough safeguards have been put in place for her to support the new plan.

Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown, who has urged toughness regarding Chinese imports without a lot of success, said the whole issue comes down to a game of chicken.

""The Chinese don't play fair, and we've been cowards," the senator told Fortune. "Every time China threatens, we back off."

The U.S. market for apple juice (what's more American than that?) is dominated by products whose roots are a powdery concentrate shipped on freighters in 55-gallon drums from where else but China. Most U.S. consumers don't care, or at least don't pay much attention, to China being the nation of origin of most of the "juice" in drink boxes and apple juice bottles sold in this country. And since no big problems have been reported with Chinese apple products they have become ubiquitous here. Only a handful of companies claim to only use U.S.-grown apples.

Not long ago I bought a piece of frozen salmon in a package. Even though I obsessively check certain products for nation of origin labeling, I didn't notice this one until it was too late: China. My salmon was from China. I have lived in Alaska and fished salmon from Nushagak Bay on the Bering Sea coast. To the fine people there, I apologize.

Perhaps it is a simplistic notion or overly protectionist, but with the backdrop of millions of recalled products, melamine-tainted food and bird flu on the resume of the nation of origin, is it too much to ask of the U.S. government to refrain from giving passports to millions of pounds of processed Chinese chicken products?

_Chrissy_ · 10-10-2009, 02:07 PM

WOW!
Not good

lil fu fu girl · 10-10-2009, 06:15 PM

Excellent post!
Food for thought.

nyteacups · 10-11-2009, 01:45 PM

wow

i make chicken almost every night over at my home for my family

ChantalB · 10-11-2009, 02:38 PM

GROSS!!!

I rarely eat meat anymore anyhow but that just sound like an horrible idea to me... With all those recall as you mention.

Not all, but many chickens are keep in horrible condition if not tortured In OUR American/Canadian farm and slaughterhouse!!!

The government can't even controlled the farm industry here, how on hell do they think those chicken will be safe to eat comming from there... living in horrible conditions...

I stop eating meat after watching the movie Earthline about 1.5 year ago now... Not because I think human shouldn't eat meat, but because I refused to encourage that disgusting abused of life!!

So here THEY go again... Trying to save a few $$$... forgetting all morals... Refusing to think about the consequence of their act...

Just a friendly remainder for the meat eater, I know it's a little costly, but buying organic meat is the best way to help the cause without giving up meat ... please do your research...

Sorry for going out of subject a little.

And thank you for posting that info!

lil fu fu girl · 10-12-2009, 12:21 PM

ChantalB wrote:
Just a friendly remainder for the meat eater, I know it's a little costly, but buying organic meat is the best way to help the cause without giving up meat ... please do your research...

Almost everything we buy is organic.
If most Americans would only take one tour of a chicken or cattle farm/ processing plant; I guarantee you, they would change their diets.

ChantalB · 10-14-2009, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lil fu fu girl

Almost everything we buy is organic.
If most Americans would only take one tour of a chicken or cattle farm/ processing plant; I guarantee you, they would change their diets.

So True! Good for you.

ARCHIE · 10-14-2009, 05:49 AM

Well that's not good at all!
I wish our government would stop shoving China down our American throats!
Everything they seem to manufacture is below standards.
If our own government would lower taxes in this country our own
manufacturers could afford to stay here!
I buy no food that has a China label on it for Buddy or myself!
IMO they already proved themselves with all the call backs on dog
food last year.
We'll both become vegatarians before I purchase chicken from China.
I wouldn;t trust them to sell us anything that was safe to eat.

jp4m2 · 10-14-2009, 07:24 AM

I'm not surprised by this at all.....China has the worlds worst quality control standards in the world!......Some food products have been tainted with harmful pesticides which the government has banned but farmers can still buy and use.

China is using toxic chemicals , illegal pesticides , toxic sludge on fruits and vegetables, etc. etc. ....Whatever they can get their hands on to cut costs and sell the product is used, all at the expense of peoples lives......A lot of it comes into the U.S., and we consume this without even knowing it.

This link has just a small fraction listed of contaminated foods from and in China....

FOOD SAFETY IN CHINA - China | Facts and Details

This is an interesting article written in The Washington Post.....

China Food Fears Go From Pets To People - washingtonpost.com

The Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that 300 million mainland Chinese are affected by food poisoning every year and food safety problems cost the Chinese economy as much as $13 billion a year in medical costs and productivity losses. According to the New China News Agency and Chinese Academy of Preventive Medical Sciences, 500 people suffer food poisoning every day and one third of the foods labeled “nutritious for children” have practically no nutritional value whatsoever.

Don't think for a minute that the organic foods from China is safe....The Chinese government does not allow foreigners to inspect Chinese farms, there's no 'organic' food tradition in China. In China everything is just 'food'. If the Chinese feed the chickens melamine contaminated feed or they put illegal drugs in the water, that is in the chickens and their eggs......This has already happened......Some of the organic producers in the U.S. have also gotten caught up in making bigger profits now that they have contracts with Walmart and Costco so they're cutting corners with their products......The National Organic Program which is an agency within the USDA, is responsible for organics, is severely understaffed and underfunded to do the necessary inspections. Until the organic organizations get tougher laws and more frequent inspections on these violators, "USDA organic" will soon become meaningless.....

Chine is now in charge of producing a huge amount of our "over the counters" and our pharmaceuticals, which is scary since the FDA has not inspected 93% of the factories there. The F.D.A. inspects less than 1 percent of all imports. China now produces about two-thirds of all aspirin and is poised to become the world’s sole global supplier in the not-too-distant future...... The pharmaceutical companies claim they inspect and test the drugs when they come back into the U.S. but from what I've been reading this is a big lie.....We have no way of knowing if the drugs are safe, if they contain the any of the active ingredient or if it's is at a therapeutic level.....This is from the Washington Post article.....

China’s leap to one of the biggest suppliers of pharmaceutical ingredients in the world happened over the last decade, as the Chinese government subsidized the construction of manufacturing plants that have undercut prices everywhere. Generic drug makers in the United States, where price competition is fierce, were the first to seek cheaper drug ingredients in China. Last year, generic drug applications to the F.D.A. listed 1,154 plants providing active pharmaceutical ingredients: 43 percent of them were in China, and another 39 percent were in India. Only 13 percent were in the United States. Branded drug makers, with their fatter profit margins, resisted buying ingredients from China for years, but with their businesses now suffering, even major pharmaceutical companies like AstraZeneca, Bayer, Baxter and Pfizer have announced deals to outsource manufacturing to China.

"The World Health Organization has estimated that as much as 10 percent of pharmaceuticals sold worldwide are counterfeit or contaminated. In some poor countries, the share is more than 30 percent."

If you google "china tainted pharmaceuticals" and "tainted food" you will may not feel so safe eating or taking med's ......

Bizzymammabee · 10-14-2009, 07:26 AM

Oh goodness...definitely some food for thought. Thanks.

livingdustmops · 10-14-2009, 07:28 AM

It is very scary what continues to happy to our food chain...

10-10-2009, 09:11 AM	#1
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	Be aware if you feed chicken to your dog. Why did the chicken cross the road? To get on a ship in China Mitch Lipka Oct 8th 2009 at 6:10PM MoreText SizeAAAFiled under: Food, Consumer Ally So, the U.S. Senate and House have agreed that it is now time to give consumers another Chinese product to help lower production costs, create more jobs overseas and increase corporate profits: chicken. Chinese chicken imports had been banned for the past couple of years after Congress put the kibosh on a trade plan from the Bush administration in 2007. A U.S. Department of Agriculture inspection of Chinese poultry plants in 2004 documented poor sanitary conditions. But the Obama administration appears to have succeeded where Bush failed, convincing Congress that Chinese chickens are good for relations with our manufacturing friends in the Far East. Politics is great for delivering examples of how failure can be a good thing. Shouldn't the line be drawn somewhere? Processed chicken seems like a good place to start. Let's be clear: Chinese products are with us everywhere and the lower prices that come with them have become addictive to consumers. Electronic equipment, toys, and even candy comes here by the freighter load and consumers buy it by the truckload. Some of it -- not that China has cornered the market on it -- is utter junk. And products made in China tend not only dominate what we find in discount stores, but also the list of products that are recalled due to defects or violations of safety rules. American companies, such as chicken-producing giant Tyson Foods, played a role in pushing for the agreement that will open the doors to Chinese chicken products in the U.S. It owns chicken farms in China, and stands to profit mightily from the lower cost of doing business in China. Who can blame them? The Chinese track record with food safety is abysmal. Less than a year ago, Chinese health officials (pictured above) killed and disposed of tens of thousands of chickens exposed to the avian flu. That was about the same time nearly 300,000 Chinese babies took ill after drinking melamine-tainted powdered milk. And, as it turns out, melamine also was found in chicken feed and, of course, in Chinese chicken products. But Congress agreed to open the markets here to Chinese chicken provided an inspection process was instituted that supposedly would ensure Chinese chicken production would meet U.S. standards. That provision crumbled the opposition. U.S. Rep. Rosa Delauro, D-Conn., previously an opponent, explained in an article she penned for Roll Call that enough safeguards have been put in place for her to support the new plan. Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown, who has urged toughness regarding Chinese imports without a lot of success, said the whole issue comes down to a game of chicken. ""The Chinese don't play fair, and we've been cowards," the senator told Fortune. "Every time China threatens, we back off." The U.S. market for apple juice (what's more American than that?) is dominated by products whose roots are a powdery concentrate shipped on freighters in 55-gallon drums from where else but China. Most U.S. consumers don't care, or at least don't pay much attention, to China being the nation of origin of most of the "juice" in drink boxes and apple juice bottles sold in this country. And since no big problems have been reported with Chinese apple products they have become ubiquitous here. Only a handful of companies claim to only use U.S.-grown apples. Not long ago I bought a piece of frozen salmon in a package. Even though I obsessively check certain products for nation of origin labeling, I didn't notice this one until it was too late: China. My salmon was from China. I have lived in Alaska and fished salmon from Nushagak Bay on the Bering Sea coast. To the fine people there, I apologize. Perhaps it is a simplistic notion or overly protectionist, but with the backdrop of millions of recalled products, melamine-tainted food and bird flu on the resume of the nation of origin, is it too much to ask of the U.S. government to refrain from giving passports to millions of pounds of processed Chinese chicken products? __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

10-10-2009, 02:07 PM	#2
_Chrissy_ Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,561	WOW! Not good __________________ Max (the Morkie) & Mickey (the Yorkie)

10-11-2009, 01:45 PM	#4
nyteacups BANNED! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: new york city Posts: 81	holy s#it wow i make chicken almost every night over at my home for my family

10-14-2009, 07:24 AM	#9
jp4m2 Love my Boys Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: w/ my boys Posts: 5,056	I'm not surprised by this at all.....China has the worlds worst quality control standards in the world!......Some food products have been tainted with harmful pesticides which the government has banned but farmers can still buy and use. China is using toxic chemicals , illegal pesticides , toxic sludge on fruits and vegetables, etc. etc. ....Whatever they can get their hands on to cut costs and sell the product is used, all at the expense of peoples lives......A lot of it comes into the U.S., and we consume this without even knowing it. This link has just a small fraction listed of contaminated foods from and in China.... FOOD SAFETY IN CHINA - China \| Facts and Details This is an interesting article written in The Washington Post..... China Food Fears Go From Pets To People - washingtonpost.com The Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that 300 million mainland Chinese are affected by food poisoning every year and food safety problems cost the Chinese economy as much as $13 billion a year in medical costs and productivity losses. According to the New China News Agency and Chinese Academy of Preventive Medical Sciences, 500 people suffer food poisoning every day and one third of the foods labeled “nutritious for children” have practically no nutritional value whatsoever. Don't think for a minute that the organic foods from China is safe....The Chinese government does not allow foreigners to inspect Chinese farms, there's no 'organic' food tradition in China. In China everything is just 'food'. If the Chinese feed the chickens melamine contaminated feed or they put illegal drugs in the water, that is in the chickens and their eggs......This has already happened......Some of the organic producers in the U.S. have also gotten caught up in making bigger profits now that they have contracts with Walmart and Costco so they're cutting corners with their products......The National Organic Program which is an agency within the USDA, is responsible for organics, is severely understaffed and underfunded to do the necessary inspections. Until the organic organizations get tougher laws and more frequent inspections on these violators, "USDA organic" will soon become meaningless..... Chine is now in charge of producing a huge amount of our "over the counters" and our pharmaceuticals, which is scary since the FDA has not inspected 93% of the factories there. The F.D.A. inspects less than 1 percent of all imports. China now produces about two-thirds of all aspirin and is poised to become the world’s sole global supplier in the not-too-distant future...... The pharmaceutical companies claim they inspect and test the drugs when they come back into the U.S. but from what I've been reading this is a big lie.....We have no way of knowing if the drugs are safe, if they contain the any of the active ingredient or if it's is at a therapeutic level.....This is from the Washington Post article..... China’s leap to one of the biggest suppliers of pharmaceutical ingredients in the world happened over the last decade, as the Chinese government subsidized the construction of manufacturing plants that have undercut prices everywhere. Generic drug makers in the United States, where price competition is fierce, were the first to seek cheaper drug ingredients in China. Last year, generic drug applications to the F.D.A. listed 1,154 plants providing active pharmaceutical ingredients: 43 percent of them were in China, and another 39 percent were in India. Only 13 percent were in the United States. Branded drug makers, with their fatter profit margins, resisted buying ingredients from China for years, but with their businesses now suffering, even major pharmaceutical companies like AstraZeneca, Bayer, Baxter and Pfizer have announced deals to outsource manufacturing to China. "The World Health Organization has estimated that as much as 10 percent of pharmaceuticals sold worldwide are counterfeit or contaminated. In some poor countries, the share is more than 30 percent." If you google "china tainted pharmaceuticals" and "tainted food" you will may not feel so safe eating or taking med's ...... __________________ B.J.mom to : Jake J.J. Jack & Joey, momma misses you..... The joy found in the companionship of a pet is a blessing not given to everyone. The two most powerful words when we’re in struggle: me too.. Last edited by jp4m2; 10-14-2009 at 07:26 AM.

10-14-2009, 07:26 AM	#10
Bizzymammabee Luvs Lulu Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 6,931 Blog Entries: 1	Oh goodness...definitely some food for thought. Thanks. __________________ Lulu will always be in my heart

10-10-2009, 06:15 PM	#3
lil fu fu girl No Longer a Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,410	Excellent post! Food for thought.

10-11-2009, 02:38 PM	#5
ChantalB Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,042	GROSS!!! I rarely eat meat anymore anyhow but that just sound like an horrible idea to me... With all those recall as you mention. Not all, but many chickens are keep in horrible condition if not tortured In OUR American/Canadian farm and slaughterhouse!!! The government can't even controlled the farm industry here, how on hell do they think those chicken will be safe to eat comming from there... living in horrible conditions... I stop eating meat after watching the movie Earthline about 1.5 year ago now... Not because I think human shouldn't eat meat, but because I refused to encourage that disgusting abused of life!! So here THEY go again... Trying to save a few $$$... forgetting all morals... Refusing to think about the consequence of their act... Just a friendly remainder for the meat eater, I know it's a little costly, but buying organic meat is the best way to help the cause without giving up meat ... please do your research... Sorry for going out of subject a little. And thank you for posting that info!

10-12-2009, 12:21 PM	#6
lil fu fu girl No Longer a Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,410	ChantalB wrote: Just a friendly remainder for the meat eater, I know it's a little costly, but buying organic meat is the best way to help the cause without giving up meat ... please do your research... Almost everything we buy is organic. If most Americans would only take one tour of a chicken or cattle farm/ processing plant; I guarantee you, they would change their diets.

10-14-2009, 05:49 AM	#8
ARCHIE No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 16,218	Well that's not good at all! I wish our government would stop shoving China down our American throats! Everything they seem to manufacture is below standards. If our own government would lower taxes in this country our own manufacturers could afford to stay here! I buy no food that has a China label on it for Buddy or myself! IMO they already proved themselves with all the call backs on dog food last year. We'll both become vegatarians before I purchase chicken from China. I wouldn;t trust them to sell us anything that was safe to eat.

10-14-2009, 07:28 AM	#11
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	It is very scary what continues to happy to our food chain... __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!