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BonBon · 04-10-2009, 06:33 AM

Alexander has a terrible allergy to chicken in dry kibble. Even a little serving and he scratches himself for days. Does this mean he would also be allergic to raw chicken? I was reading an article a while back about this, and now I can't find it. I think the article said that cooking/heating the chicken for the kibble somehow changed the composition, and that many dogs who were allergic to the chicken in kibble did perfectly fine on raw. I'm not certain exactly what the article said though. Who knows, maybe I dreamed it?

Does anyone have any experience with this? What's your opinion?

bchgirl · 04-10-2009, 06:40 AM

The problem lies within the processing of chicken into kibble. Reggie is allergic to processed chicken, but not "natural" chicken...if you want to call it that. Meaning I can feed him chicken I've cooked without any problems.

Tami and Taylor · 04-10-2009, 06:44 AM

How did you determine it was the chicken? I am going through the same thing, except my vet thinks it's a flea bite. She got 2 bites that swelled up, then her whole body went on the attack, I am now trying to keep her clear of all allergins because while she is having a flair up anything she is mildly allergic too, will keep the itching going.

amandawash · 04-10-2009, 07:04 AM

Hey Bony. It might be worth doing a little experiment. Change Zander's food to something like Natural Balance Venison and Sweet Potato, or Duck and Potato for AT LEAST one month, preferably two months. If he is symptom-free after that time, introduce some cooked chicken, or pre-made raw for a few days. If there is still no symptoms, you could just assume it is the chicken in kibble, or you could give him some chicken kibble and see what happens.

Are you sure it's the chicken in the kibble, or the certain brand of kibble? Also, if he is younger than a year, it is pretty unlikely it is an actual food allergy.

heatherm0890 · 04-10-2009, 07:08 AM

bailee is allergic to her food with chicken but she does just fine when i boil her chicken...natural balance duck and potato small bites,has done wonders for her allergies

BonBon · 04-10-2009, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tami and Taylor

How did you determine it was the chicken? I am going through the same thing, except my vet thinks it's a flea bite. She got 2 bites that swelled up, then her whole body went on the attack, I am now trying to keep her clear of all allergins because while she is having a flair up anything she is mildly allergic too, will keep the itching going.

I did an elimination diet with him to track down the problem. A lot of dog foods (especially cheaper ones like I was using at the time) contain chicken. It was actually pretty easy to identify Alex's problem because chicken is so common.

BonBon · 04-10-2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by amandawash

Hey Bony. It might be worth doing a little experiment. Change Zander's food to something like Natural Balance Venison and Sweet Potato, or Duck and Potato for AT LEAST one month, preferably two months. If he is symptom-free after that time, introduce some cooked chicken, or pre-made raw for a few days. If there is still no symptoms, you could just assume it is the chicken in kibble, or you could give him some chicken kibble and see what happens.

Are you sure it's the chicken in the kibble, or the certain brand of kibble? Also, if he is younger than a year, it is pretty unlikely it is an actual food allergy.

Hey Amanda! I actually did an elimination diet with him a couple of years ago to determine chicken was the problem. Alex is 13 and he can't seem to tolerate it in any brand, and I've tried a few. For the last several months, I've been free feeding Nature's Variety Instinct in the Rabbit meal and the Duck & Turkey meal and all 4 of mine are doing great on it. I also feed NV's raw in venison and wanted to find something besides venison to offer them. None of mine like lamb at all, and I won't feed the NV Raw Rabbit since it's from China, so I was hoping Alex could tolerate their raw chicken. I was just hesitant to buy a whole bag and then find out he couldn't eat it. I never thought of trying some from the butcher, duh!

That would be a lot cheaper, and hopefully have the same result as NV's raw.

BonBon · 04-10-2009, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl

The problem lies within the processing of chicken into kibble. Reggie is allergic to processed chicken, but not "natural" chicken...if you want to call it that. Meaning I can feed him chicken I've cooked without any problems.

Yay!! That is so good to know. I want to try NV's Raw Chicken - it should be unprocessed enough for him to tolerate (I hope). Thank you!!

amandawash · 04-10-2009, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bonbon

Hey Amanda! I actually did an elimination diet with him a couple of years ago to determine chicken was the problem. Alex is 13 and he can't seem to tolerate it in any brand, and I've tried a few. For the last several months, I've been free feeding Nature's Variety Instinct in the Rabbit meal and the Duck & Turkey meal and all 4 of mine are doing great on it. I also feed NV's raw in venison and wanted to find something besides venison to offer them. None of mine like lamb at all, and I won't feed the NV Raw Rabbit since it's from China, so I was hoping Alex could tolerate their raw chicken. I was just hesitant to buy a whole bag and then find out he couldn't eat it. I never thought of trying some from the butcher, duh!

That would be a lot cheaper, and hopefully have the same result as NV's raw.

Hey Bonny have you seen Primal raw anywhere near you? I actually switched from NV raw to Primal raw because all of the formulas are organic, antibiotic and hormone-free, as well as all the protein is sourced from the US, and only fed US-grown grains.

The Primal has SO MANY different flavors. We just stick with lamb because they love it and I don't want to burn my bridges if a novel protein source is ever necessary. They have: beed, lamb, chicken, duck, venison, pheasant, quail, turkey & sardine, ummmmm, I think that's it. I also like the meat better because there are no large bone pieces and it is VERY soft (I guess finely ground?). Anyway, just something else to look at.

BonBon · 04-10-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by amandawash

Hey Bonny have you seen Primal raw anywhere near you? I actually switched from NV raw to Primal raw because all of the formulas are organic, antibiotic and hormone-free, as well as all the protein is sourced from the US, and only fed US-grown grains.

The Primal has SO MANY different flavors. We just stick with lamb because they love it and I don't want to burn my bridges if a novel protein source is ever necessary. They have: beed, lamb, chicken, duck, venison, pheasant, quail, turkey & sardine, ummmmm, I think that's it. I also like the meat better because there are no large bone pieces and it is VERY soft (I guess finely ground?). Anyway, just something else to look at.

No, I've looked around and found only two stores in Tulsa that sell raw - and both sell only the NV raw. I've thought about ordering it online because I've heard such good things about Primal, but usually you have to order in such large quantities that I haven't talked myself into it yet. I'm one of those people that like to try out a little first and see how it works. I've been really happy with NV so far, I just wanted something other than venison to give the brats. For some reason (I have no idea why), I haven't wanted to feed them the beef kind. I guess that should be ok, though?

LuvMySissy · 04-10-2009, 11:48 AM

It is also very possible it isn't really the chicken he is allergic to, but all the hormones fed to chickens. So, if you feed raw look for free-range organic chicken (same if you home cook).

yorkiepaws · 04-10-2009, 03:38 PM

Natures Variety sells a try me pack of chicken medallions. Here it is $4.99

Tami and Taylor · 04-10-2009, 07:00 PM

I feed Taylor Duck and Sweet potato by Fromm. SO the doc. thinks it's mostly inviormental, But when I was giving her her meds, I was hiding it in whole wheat bread

. Which I know a lot of dogs are allergic to. She still looks like she's had radiation, poor thing. Her itching has gotten a lot better though.

BonBon · 04-13-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkiepaws

Natures Variety sells a try me pack of chicken medallions. Here it is $4.99

I completely forgot they had those! Thank you!!!

BonBon · 04-13-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvMySissy

It is also very possible it isn't really the chicken he is allergic to, but all the hormones fed to chickens. So, if you feed raw look for free-range organic chicken (same if you home cook).

I think NV has the organic chicken. Thanks for the advice!!

04-10-2009, 06:33 AM	#1
BonBon Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: With my yorkies Posts: 10,350	Chicken allergy? Alexander has a terrible allergy to chicken in dry kibble. Even a little serving and he scratches himself for days. Does this mean he would also be allergic to raw chicken? I was reading an article a while back about this, and now I can't find it. I think the article said that cooking/heating the chicken for the kibble somehow changed the composition, and that many dogs who were allergic to the chicken in kibble did perfectly fine on raw. I'm not certain exactly what the article said though. Who knows, maybe I dreamed it? Does anyone have any experience with this? What's your opinion? __________________ He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. -- Author Unknown

04-10-2009, 06:40 AM	#2
bchgirl Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: at da beach Posts: 15,444 Blog Entries: 2	The problem lies within the processing of chicken into kibble. Reggie is allergic to processed chicken, but not "natural" chicken...if you want to call it that. Meaning I can feed him chicken I've cooked without any problems. __________________ Deb, Reese, Reggie, Frazier, Libby, Sidney, & Bodie Trace & Ramsey who watch over us www.biewersbythebay.com

04-10-2009, 07:04 AM	#4
amandawash Lovin' my R & R Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Middleton, Idaho Posts: 2,152	Hey Bony. It might be worth doing a little experiment. Change Zander's food to something like Natural Balance Venison and Sweet Potato, or Duck and Potato for AT LEAST one month, preferably two months. If he is symptom-free after that time, introduce some cooked chicken, or pre-made raw for a few days. If there is still no symptoms, you could just assume it is the chicken in kibble, or you could give him some chicken kibble and see what happens. Are you sure it's the chicken in the kibble, or the certain brand of kibble? Also, if he is younger than a year, it is pretty unlikely it is an actual food allergy. __________________ Amanda 's Ranger & Ryder

04-10-2009, 07:08 AM	#5
heatherm0890 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenville,North Carolina, US Posts: 875	bailee is allergic to her food with chicken but she does just fine when i boil her chicken...natural balance duck and potato small bites,has done wonders for her allergies __________________ **Bailee's Mommy **

04-10-2009, 11:48 AM	#11
LuvMySissy Luv my Angel, too! Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Posts: 9,333	It is also very possible it isn't really the chicken he is allergic to, but all the hormones fed to chickens. So, if you feed raw look for free-range organic chicken (same if you home cook). __________________ Sissy & Angel

04-10-2009, 06:44 AM	#3
Tami and Taylor Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fl Posts: 88	How did you determine it was the chicken? I am going through the same thing, except my vet thinks it's a flea bite. She got 2 bites that swelled up, then her whole body went on the attack, I am now trying to keep her clear of all allergins because while she is having a flair up anything she is mildly allergic too, will keep the itching going.

04-10-2009, 03:38 PM	#12
yorkiepaws Owned by "Lil Rat" Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,067	Natures Variety sells a try me pack of chicken medallions. Here it is $4.99

04-10-2009, 07:00 PM	#13
Tami and Taylor Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fl Posts: 88	I feed Taylor Duck and Sweet potato by Fromm. SO the doc. thinks it's mostly inviormental, But when I was giving her her meds, I was hiding it in whole wheat bread. Which I know a lot of dogs are allergic to. She still looks like she's had radiation, poor thing. Her itching has gotten a lot better though.