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jeanietoo · 02-04-2009, 11:44 AM

I would just try to keep things as calm for him as possible and see what happens. There are times when there just aren't any answers

charleneC · 02-04-2009, 12:53 PM

This seems to be one of those times. He used to have them when he got excited, but not so much anymore. To be honest, the only difference that we can figure out is my daughter (its her dog, and lives with her) isn't working as much and has a bit more time to spend with him.

nvnvgirl · 02-04-2009, 05:01 PM

I too, pray that your little one will be seizure free completely! It's such a scary thing when it happens. My Max has something that SEEMS like a seizure but it usually happens when something really scares him....and of course, it never lasts long enough to get him to a vet so they can see what's happening. Luckily, he's only had it happen a few times. Hopefully, your baby will just grow out of whatever it is!

My mom lives in Fairfield....and wants to move to Vacaville eventually. So do I, but it will be awhile for me I'm sure. Good luck with Marley.

charleneC · 02-11-2009, 07:08 AM

Well it's been about 2 weeks now and only 3 episodes. It does seem to happen when he gets excited, we try to keep him calm but he's just a happy little thing!! We are wondering if it might be food. We have been feeding him Benifull, but ran out and my daughter fed him some of our Corgies, Pedigree food. He seems to do good on the Pedigree. I need to learn about the High or Low protien food, anyone know where I can learn if he should have High or Low protiens?
nvngirl, get ahold of me when you come to fairfield or vacaville!

Ladymom · 02-11-2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by charleneC

Well it's been about 2 weeks now and only 3 episodes. It does seem to happen when he gets excited, we try to keep him calm but he's just a happy little thing!! We are wondering if it might be food. We have been feeding him Benifull, but ran out and my daughter fed him some of our Corgies, Pedigree food. He seems to do good on the Pedigree. I need to learn about the High or Low protien food, anyone know where I can learn if he should have High or Low protiens?
nvngirl, get ahold of me when you come to fairfield or vacaville!

Both Pedigree and Beneful are terrible foods, made with the "not fit for human consumption" waste from the human food industry. Please read this article:

What's Really in Pet Food? - Report by the Animal Protection Institute

Dogs with a low seizure threshold especially need a high quality diet with no preservatives. Pedigree Small Breed kibble contains BHT/BHA which are toxic chemicals known to cause seizures:

Dog Food Nutrition | Really Good Food For Dogs | PEDIGREE®

Toxicology of BHA

charleneC · 02-11-2009, 10:17 AM

Thanks for the article. Do you have any brand names that I can look for that would be a good healthy diet food?

Ladymom · 02-11-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by charleneC

Thanks for the article. Do you have any brand names that I can look for that would be a good healthy diet food?

This thread is pinned in the Health & Diet section:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...e-samples.html

charleneC · 02-11-2009, 10:55 AM

Thank you ladymom! I think I'll try some nutura, canidae or maybe some Natural Balance.

Rhonda_333 · 03-07-2010, 12:20 AM

HI Charlene.

I am so sorry to hear about your yorkie and the problems you are going through. I wouldn't rule out epilepsy. I have a sweet little female yorkie, KiKi. She will be 4 years old on March 21. When she was just over a year old, she had her first seizure. I went crazy! I was so scared, and I didn't know what was happening. After a year of blood work, checking her liver, test after test and logging all of her seizures, the eventual diagnosis was epilepsy. Whether this is correct or not, I don't know but everything else was ruled out. Each time she has one it scares me to death! She was first put on Phenobarbital pills 15mg -- half a pill in the morning and half in the evening. That didn't work, so we had to increase it to one whole pill in the morning and one in the evening. My baby became pregnant by mistake and the seizures seemed to stop, so I started thinking maybe it was a hormonal issue. She seemed to do welll. About two months later, they started again so when she went into heat, I let her breed so she could be seizure free for a couple of months at least (again, I thought this was hormonal so I wanted to help her all I could). The doctor told me it wasn't though. During this second pregnancy, everything changed. She had seizure after seizure. I finally spoke to the original family that I got her from and asked if KiKis mother had any problems like this. They informed me that the mother had died a week after I got KiKi. It was from seizures. She went into one, then another and another and never came out of it.

I know you said your baby was awake and alert during the episode, but my vet explained although they are looking around, they are unconscious during the seizure and still in and out of consciousness for aobut 15-20 minutes after it. They may potty afterwards, throw up, walk around / fall down / seem exhausted and want to do nothing but sleep.

KiKi now takes Potassium Bromide 250 mg/m twice a day with her pills. Out of the first litter, she had four puppies. Two of them have acquired the seizures. My parents took one of the puppies -- they named her Sugar. On February 3 she went into a seizure about 4am and then into a second one. My parents got in the car and rushed to the emergency vet. She kept going into seizures and died in my dads arms before they could get to the vet.

I am not trying to scare you, just offer some of what I have learned and experience for three years in dealing with the seizures. When Kiki has one, she seems to know when it's going to happen and comes to me a minute or two before. I hold her close to my chest so she cant jerk or flop around and hurt herself. I speak smoothly and calmly to her letting her know how much I love her and that it's going to be ok. All her legs get stiff and her head limps to the side and she shakes terribly.

She seemed to be doing much better but she had two of them tonight. I send this reply with many prayers and blessings for your baby yorkie and hope that although there isn't a cure, that you are able to keep them under control. I couldn't find hardly anyone who was going through this and I didn't know what to do. Make sure if you start your baby on the phenobarbital that you follow up with blood work around 2-3 weeks later to make sure she is getting the right dose.

I hope your baby continues to go without any since she hasn't had any for a couple of weeks. Good luck and if you ever need to talk about it, you can email me.

Sincerely,

Rhonda
Rhonda_333@hotmail.com

lucaluca · 09-28-2011, 11:54 AM

i am experiencing a similar situation w/ my Yorkie who is 4 years old. Last year he had acute pancreatitis and 1 month after, he started w/ "episodes." The vet thought it was more gastrointestinal and we treated accordingly. We went over 6 months without an episode and I was relieved. Then just recently they started up again. We are seeing a neurologist next week, and I'm not sure if what he is having is a seizure. I have added a link to a video of him having an episode.
He doesn't cry, but I know when he is about to have one, as his facial expressions become quiet and he looks scared. Usually after an episode he will throw up. Does this happen to any of you with your yorkies?
Does it look like a seizure?
For those of you who have your yorkies on medication, has it helped?
Princeton Episode #2 - YouTube
I would love feedback from everyone.
thanks!

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erika1948 · 10-08-2011, 03:20 PM

My poodle, Elvira, had congestive heart failure and every once in awhile she had an episode which my vet described as syncope. The first time she had it she just fell over and I thought she was having a seizure but it was not. Another time she just stopped in her tracks for a minute and did not move and then came out of it. These episodes came out of the blue but were not epileptic in nature. They must have been heart related because she never had them until she got older. I don't know if they were related to her heart meds but they happened intermittently for no rhyme or reason and only occasionally. She did not seem any worse for wear when she came out of them.

02-04-2009, 05:01 PM	#18
nvnvgirl Lovin' to the MAX!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yorkieville Posts: 2,774	I too, pray that your little one will be seizure free completely! It's such a scary thing when it happens. My Max has something that SEEMS like a seizure but it usually happens when something really scares him....and of course, it never lasts long enough to get him to a vet so they can see what's happening. Luckily, he's only had it happen a few times. Hopefully, your baby will just grow out of whatever it is! My mom lives in Fairfield....and wants to move to Vacaville eventually. So do I, but it will be awhile for me I'm sure. Good luck with Marley. __________________ Seana and Max and Madison too! Come visit me at: celebritydogwatcher.com

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10-08-2011, 03:20 PM	#27
erika1948 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 139	Syncope My poodle, Elvira, had congestive heart failure and every once in awhile she had an episode which my vet described as syncope. The first time she had it she just fell over and I thought she was having a seizure but it was not. Another time she just stopped in her tracks for a minute and did not move and then came out of it. These episodes came out of the blue but were not epileptic in nature. They must have been heart related because she never had them until she got older. I don't know if they were related to her heart meds but they happened intermittently for no rhyme or reason and only occasionally. She did not seem any worse for wear when she came out of them.

02-04-2009, 11:44 AM	#16
jeanietoo YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 783	I would just try to keep things as calm for him as possible and see what happens. There are times when there just aren't any answers

02-04-2009, 12:53 PM	#17
charleneC Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: vacaville, ca, usa Posts: 12	This seems to be one of those times. He used to have them when he got excited, but not so much anymore. To be honest, the only difference that we can figure out is my daughter (its her dog, and lives with her) isn't working as much and has a bit more time to spend with him.

02-11-2009, 07:08 AM	#19
charleneC Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: vacaville, ca, usa Posts: 12	Well it's been about 2 weeks now and only 3 episodes. It does seem to happen when he gets excited, we try to keep him calm but he's just a happy little thing!! We are wondering if it might be food. We have been feeding him Benifull, but ran out and my daughter fed him some of our Corgies, Pedigree food. He seems to do good on the Pedigree. I need to learn about the High or Low protien food, anyone know where I can learn if he should have High or Low protiens? nvngirl, get ahold of me when you come to fairfield or vacaville!

02-11-2009, 10:17 AM	#21
charleneC Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: vacaville, ca, usa Posts: 12	Thanks for the article. Do you have any brand names that I can look for that would be a good healthy diet food?

02-11-2009, 10:55 AM	#23
charleneC Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: vacaville, ca, usa Posts: 12	Thank you ladymom! I think I'll try some nutura, canidae or maybe some Natural Balance.

03-07-2010, 12:20 AM	#24
Rhonda_333 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Waco Posts: 4	HI Charlene. I am so sorry to hear about your yorkie and the problems you are going through. I wouldn't rule out epilepsy. I have a sweet little female yorkie, KiKi. She will be 4 years old on March 21. When she was just over a year old, she had her first seizure. I went crazy! I was so scared, and I didn't know what was happening. After a year of blood work, checking her liver, test after test and logging all of her seizures, the eventual diagnosis was epilepsy. Whether this is correct or not, I don't know but everything else was ruled out. Each time she has one it scares me to death! She was first put on Phenobarbital pills 15mg -- half a pill in the morning and half in the evening. That didn't work, so we had to increase it to one whole pill in the morning and one in the evening. My baby became pregnant by mistake and the seizures seemed to stop, so I started thinking maybe it was a hormonal issue. She seemed to do welll. About two months later, they started again so when she went into heat, I let her breed so she could be seizure free for a couple of months at least (again, I thought this was hormonal so I wanted to help her all I could). The doctor told me it wasn't though. During this second pregnancy, everything changed. She had seizure after seizure. I finally spoke to the original family that I got her from and asked if KiKis mother had any problems like this. They informed me that the mother had died a week after I got KiKi. It was from seizures. She went into one, then another and another and never came out of it. I know you said your baby was awake and alert during the episode, but my vet explained although they are looking around, they are unconscious during the seizure and still in and out of consciousness for aobut 15-20 minutes after it. They may potty afterwards, throw up, walk around / fall down / seem exhausted and want to do nothing but sleep. KiKi now takes Potassium Bromide 250 mg/m twice a day with her pills. Out of the first litter, she had four puppies. Two of them have acquired the seizures. My parents took one of the puppies -- they named her Sugar. On February 3 she went into a seizure about 4am and then into a second one. My parents got in the car and rushed to the emergency vet. She kept going into seizures and died in my dads arms before they could get to the vet. I am not trying to scare you, just offer some of what I have learned and experience for three years in dealing with the seizures. When Kiki has one, she seems to know when it's going to happen and comes to me a minute or two before. I hold her close to my chest so she cant jerk or flop around and hurt herself. I speak smoothly and calmly to her letting her know how much I love her and that it's going to be ok. All her legs get stiff and her head limps to the side and she shakes terribly. She seemed to be doing much better but she had two of them tonight. I send this reply with many prayers and blessings for your baby yorkie and hope that although there isn't a cure, that you are able to keep them under control. I couldn't find hardly anyone who was going through this and I didn't know what to do. Make sure if you start your baby on the phenobarbital that you follow up with blood work around 2-3 weeks later to make sure she is getting the right dose. I hope your baby continues to go without any since she hasn't had any for a couple of weeks. Good luck and if you ever need to talk about it, you can email me. Sincerely, Rhonda Rhonda_333@hotmail.com

09-28-2011, 11:54 AM	#25
lucaluca Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 11	i am experiencing a similar situation w/ my Yorkie who is 4 years old. Last year he had acute pancreatitis and 1 month after, he started w/ "episodes." The vet thought it was more gastrointestinal and we treated accordingly. We went over 6 months without an episode and I was relieved. Then just recently they started up again. We are seeing a neurologist next week, and I'm not sure if what he is having is a seizure. I have added a link to a video of him having an episode. He doesn't cry, but I know when he is about to have one, as his facial expressions become quiet and he looks scared. Usually after an episode he will throw up. Does this happen to any of you with your yorkies? Does it look like a seizure? For those of you who have your yorkies on medication, has it helped? Princeton Episode #2 - YouTube I would love feedback from everyone. thanks!