Wellness Small breed vs. Natural Balance Ultra Small Bites - YorkieTalk.com Forums

_Chrissy_ · 12-16-2008, 04:23 PM

I have narrowed my choice down to these 2.
For me...It is really hard to pick between them.
ANY suggestions?

Which one would you or do you feed?

Thanks

SWEETPEA · 12-16-2008, 04:32 PM

i feed wellness small breed and my baby loves it

marcerella02 · 12-16-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by _Chrissy_

I have narrowed my choice down to these 2.
For me...It is really hard to pick between them.
ANY suggestions?

Which one would you or do you feed?

Thanks

I would personally go with Natural Balance- for a few reasons.

First- Wellness has started to supply to Petco. Before they only supplied to small local stores that fed high quality food. THis makes me a bit nervous about quality control if they are now MASS producing.

Second- i LOVE Natural Balance- If i was feeding kibble i would feed it. They were involved in the recall and have since changed their formulas. I also love that they are now accountable- you can enter the bar code of your bag online and see the tests it went through and how that bag did. I also love the various formulas they have- many GREAT allergy formulas.

So for me- my pick is Natural Balance.

my2boyz · 12-16-2008, 05:03 PM

But...Natural Balance is sold through Petco too. I have recently switched mine over to NB and it seems like they're going poo several times a day...might just be from the switch but if this keeps up I'll have to try something different...again.

SWEETPEA · 12-16-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by my2boyz

But...Natural Balance is sold through Petco too. I have recently switched mine over to NB and it seems like they're going poo several times a day...might just be from the switch but if this keeps up I'll have to try something different...again.

exactly they sell nb in petco too.

marcerella02 · 12-16-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SWEETPEA

exactly they sell nb in petco too.

didn't know- we dont' have Petco in Canada

I'd still do NB- just because i think it is a higher quality.

SWEETPEA · 12-16-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by marcerella02

didn't know- we dont' have Petco in Canada

I'd still do NB- just because i think it is a higher quality.

i think they are both great foods,. i just happen to choose wellness.

marcerella02 · 12-16-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SWEETPEA

i think they are both great foods,. i just happen to choose wellness.

right and she just asked an opinion so i gave it!

Ellie May · 12-16-2008, 05:13 PM

I don't think I've compared the ingredients in these two, so don't know my pick for sure but I'd hope Wellness has taken the garlic out of their food or it would be an automatic no for me.

I think it would come down to who produces these foods/what plants they're made at.

_Chrissy_ · 12-16-2008, 05:16 PM

Which one looks better nutritionally???

Here are the Ingriedients for both:

Wellness Small Breed
Deboned Turkey, Chicken Meal, Salmon Meal, Oatmeal, Ground Brown Rice, Ground Barley, Rye Flour, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a natural source of Vitamin E), Menhaden Fish Meal, Tomato Pomace, Natural Chicken Flavor, Pea Fiber, Tomatoes, Salmon Oil, Ground Flaxseed, Carrots, Spinach, Sweet Potatoes, Apples, Blueberries, Potassium Chloride, Minerals [Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Copper Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite], Vitamins [Beta-Carotene, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Vitamin A Supplement, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B-12 Supplement], Choline Chloride, Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols (a natural preservative), Chicory Root Extract, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulfate, Dried Lactobacillus plantarum, Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation products.
Protein Not Less Than 28.0%
Fat Not Less Than 15.0%
Fiber Not More Than 4.00%
Moisture Not More Than 11.0%
Calcium Not Less Than 1.20%
Phosphorus Not Less Than 0.90%
Vitamin E Not Less Than 150 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) Not Less Than 100 mg/kg
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* Not Less Than 3.00%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* Not Less Than 0.50%
Beta-Carotene* Not Less Than 5 mg/kg
Lycopene* Not Less Than 0.25 mg/kg
Taurine* Not Less Than 0.09%
Microorganisms Not Less Than 20,000,000 CFU/lb
(L. plantarum, E. faecium, L. casei, L. acidophilus in equal amounts

Natural Balance Ultra
Chicken, Brown Rice, Lamb Meal, Oatmeal, Barley, Duck Meal, Potatoes, Carrots, Chicken Fat (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols), Tomato Pomace, Natural Flavor, Canola Oil, Brewers Yeast, Salmon Meal, Salmon Oil, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Spinach, Parsley Flakes, Cranberries, L-Lysine, L-Carnitine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Folic Acid.
Crude Protein 23.0% minimum
Crude Fat 13.0% minimum
Crude Fiber 3.0% maximum
Moisture 10.0% maximum
Omega-3 Fatty Acids 0.5% minimum
Omega-6 Fatty Acids 3.0% minimum

HOW can I find out which plants they are made at?
I know from past posts the Diamond Plant is a no no.

my2boyz · 12-16-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by marcerella02

didn't know- we dont' have Petco in Canada

I'm sorry, I didn't know you don't have Petco in Canada. I do like the ingredients in NB but like I said...mine seem to be 'going' a lot more now. I'll wait til I'm almost done with the kibble I have and see how it's going then.

marcerella02 · 12-16-2008, 05:22 PM

they both ARE great foods- i like that NB has LESS ingredients- and it shows that Wellness doesnt' have garlic anymore so that is good. I honestly dont' think you can go wrong with either- but again you were just asking our opinions and if i was feeding my dog- it would be NB

marcerella02 · 12-16-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by my2boyz

I'm sorry, I didn't know you don't have Petco in Canada. I do like the ingredients in NB but like I said...mine seem to be 'going' a lot more now. I'll wait til I'm almost done with the kibble I have and see how it's going then.

are their poops firm? Layla poop 3-4 times a day- and she eats home cooking but her poops are firm so it really doesn't matter than she is going 3-4 times.

Ellie May · 12-16-2008, 05:26 PM

The ingredients look comparable and when none of the "forbidden ingredients" lol are used (I don't really see any here), then I'd focus on what you want in the final analysis. If you prefer higher protein, go Wellness. If you prefer a bit lower fat, go NB. It looks like Wellness contains probiotics whereas NB doesn't. Is that something you really did or really didn't want? There is fish or fish meal in both. Does the fish come from China? Where do they get all of their ingredients from? Is the fish preserved with ethoxyquin? If the fishery did it, they may not have to list it as an ingredient...

_Chrissy_ · 12-16-2008, 05:26 PM

I really appreciate all of you opinions

I just can not decide on my own so I thought this is a great place to ask

12-16-2008, 04:23 PM	#1
_Chrissy_ Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,561	Wellness Small breed vs. Natural Balance Ultra Small Bites I have narrowed my choice down to these 2. For me...It is really hard to pick between them. ANY suggestions? Which one would you or do you feed? Thanks __________________ Max (the Morkie) & Mickey (the Yorkie)

12-16-2008, 04:32 PM	#2
SWEETPEA My Little Princess Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SUNNY,FLORIDA Posts: 2,764	i feed wellness small breed and my baby loves it __________________ RACHEL & MISTY

12-16-2008, 05:13 PM	#9
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	I don't think I've compared the ingredients in these two, so don't know my pick for sure but I'd hope Wellness has taken the garlic out of their food or it would be an automatic no for me. I think it would come down to who produces these foods/what plants they're made at. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

12-16-2008, 05:16 PM	#10
_Chrissy_ Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,561	Which one looks better nutritionally??? Here are the Ingriedients for both: Wellness Small Breed Deboned Turkey, Chicken Meal, Salmon Meal, Oatmeal, Ground Brown Rice, Ground Barley, Rye Flour, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a natural source of Vitamin E), Menhaden Fish Meal, Tomato Pomace, Natural Chicken Flavor, Pea Fiber, Tomatoes, Salmon Oil, Ground Flaxseed, Carrots, Spinach, Sweet Potatoes, Apples, Blueberries, Potassium Chloride, Minerals [Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Copper Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite], Vitamins [Beta-Carotene, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Vitamin A Supplement, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B-12 Supplement], Choline Chloride, Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols (a natural preservative), Chicory Root Extract, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulfate, Dried Lactobacillus plantarum, Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation products. Protein Not Less Than 28.0% Fat Not Less Than 15.0% Fiber Not More Than 4.00% Moisture Not More Than 11.0% Calcium Not Less Than 1.20% Phosphorus Not Less Than 0.90% Vitamin E Not Less Than 150 IU/kg Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) Not Less Than 100 mg/kg Omega 6 Fatty Acids* Not Less Than 3.00% Omega 3 Fatty Acids* Not Less Than 0.50% Beta-Carotene* Not Less Than 5 mg/kg Lycopene* Not Less Than 0.25 mg/kg Taurine* Not Less Than 0.09% Microorganisms Not Less Than 20,000,000 CFU/lb (L. plantarum, E. faecium, L. casei, L. acidophilus in equal amounts Natural Balance Ultra Chicken, Brown Rice, Lamb Meal, Oatmeal, Barley, Duck Meal, Potatoes, Carrots, Chicken Fat (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols), Tomato Pomace, Natural Flavor, Canola Oil, Brewers Yeast, Salmon Meal, Salmon Oil, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Spinach, Parsley Flakes, Cranberries, L-Lysine, L-Carnitine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Folic Acid. Crude Protein 23.0% minimum Crude Fat 13.0% minimum Crude Fiber 3.0% maximum Moisture 10.0% maximum Omega-3 Fatty Acids 0.5% minimum Omega-6 Fatty Acids 3.0% minimum HOW can I find out which plants they are made at? I know from past posts the Diamond Plant is a no no. __________________ Max (the Morkie) & Mickey (the Yorkie) Last edited by _Chrissy_; 12-16-2008 at 05:18 PM.

12-16-2008, 05:22 PM	#12
marcerella02 Loved by Layla Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 11,257	they both ARE great foods- i like that NB has LESS ingredients- and it shows that Wellness doesnt' have garlic anymore so that is good. I honestly dont' think you can go wrong with either- but again you were just asking our opinions and if i was feeding my dog- it would be NB __________________ http://misscanam.blogspot.com/ Layla 's Simon

12-16-2008, 05:03 PM	#4
my2boyz Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my house :) Posts: 5,219	But...Natural Balance is sold through Petco too. I have recently switched mine over to NB and it seems like they're going poo several times a day...might just be from the switch but if this keeps up I'll have to try something different...again.

12-16-2008, 05:26 PM	#14
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	The ingredients look comparable and when none of the "forbidden ingredients" lol are used (I don't really see any here), then I'd focus on what you want in the final analysis. If you prefer higher protein, go Wellness. If you prefer a bit lower fat, go NB. It looks like Wellness contains probiotics whereas NB doesn't. Is that something you really did or really didn't want? There is fish or fish meal in both. Does the fish come from China? Where do they get all of their ingredients from? Is the fish preserved with ethoxyquin? If the fishery did it, they may not have to list it as an ingredient... __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

12-16-2008, 05:26 PM	#15
_Chrissy_ Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,561	I really appreciate all of you opinions I just can not decide on my own so I thought this is a great place to ask __________________ Max (the Morkie) & Mickey (the Yorkie)