RE: LP...is there a timeline? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

nvnvgirl · 01-31-2008, 10:51 PM

I have read a few of the LP threads....but I haven't been faced with it (yet) and there's just SO much information here to read all the time, that I have to sometimes limit myself. I'm wondering though, if there is a timeline, meaning that if your dog is going to have it, will it show up within a certain amount of time? Like if they're going to have it, it will exhibit itself between , say....2 months and 2 yrs old? Or is it something we will have to always be on the lookout for? I mean, obviously, you pay attention to your dog and realize when something emergent occurs, but there's "accidents" and then this....if it's something genetic or congenital, would it be evident (other than by empirical x-rays) early on, or maybe NOT evident until they were older? Is there any point that you would be able to feel comfortable that it won't be an issue?
And what are the signs and symptoms of it? Are there any prodromal signs that you might pick up BEFORE they end up with a painful situation, or is that the first sign you see?

Ladymom · 02-01-2008, 05:28 AM

Your vet can check your new puppy's knees when you first bring him home. Be sure to ask as many don't do this automatically.

As far a timeline, they can cause LP's by jumping on and off furniture at any time in their life so it's important to have ramps and stairs.

According to the OFA, Yorkies are fourth in ranking for LP's.

http://www.offa.org/patluxstatbreed.html

Peters · 02-01-2008, 05:50 AM

you can feel the knee slipping and sometimes hear it everytime it goes off the groove it causes inflamation and irritation that can lead to arthritic problems as they get older sometimes if its bothering them they will favor or hold up a leg for a little while .

LuvMySissy · 02-01-2008, 07:00 AM

I'm certainly not an expert here. But, our first sign with Sissy was at about 11 months old with a skipping type of motion that she would do with her back leg when in a moderate run. Thankfully, her's is a mild case and adding glucosamine to her diet (Missing Link +) has helped tremendously.

Angel's legs are rock solid and she is quite the jumper. At 6 months old, the vet was a little concerned that her knees were loose, but at a year she was fine.

nvnvgirl · 02-01-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvMySissy

I'm certainly not an expert here. But, our first sign with Sissy was at about 11 months old with a skipping type of motion that she would do with her back leg when in a moderate run. Thankfully, her's is a mild case and adding glucosamine to her diet (Missing Link +) has helped tremendously.

Hmmm....that's kind of why I was wondering. Max does this little "skip" thing with his back right leg....he doesn't do it all the time, or even very often, but I've noticed it since he was a puppy. His leg never seems to bother him at all though. So maybe he's got a mild case like Sissy does. Did she seem to have any pain or discomfort with it? I wasn't sure if it was just something Max did sometimes, or if it was a sign of LP

. Maybe I should get some of the Missing Link + for him!

He's quite the jumper; up and down. I have a bench at the end of the bed so he doesn't jump all the way off the bed to the floor, but I still try to get to him and pick him up...he's just so fast in the morning when it's feeding time, a lot of times I don't make it!

Ladymom · 02-01-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nvnvgirl

Hmmm....that's kind of why I was wondering. Max does this little "skip" thing with his back right leg....he doesn't do it all the time, or even very often, but I've noticed it since he was a puppy. His leg never seems to bother him at all though. So maybe he's got a mild case like Sissy does. Did she seem to have any pain or discomfort with it? I wasn't sure if it was just something Max did sometimes, or if it was a sign of LP

. Maybe I should get some of the Missing Link + for him!

He's quite the jumper; up and down. I have a bench at the end of the bed so he doesn't jump all the way off the bed to the floor, but I still try to get to him and pick him up...he's just so fast in the morning when it's feeding time, a lot of times I don't make it!

If Max is doing that little skip, you need to have him checked for LP as that is a classic symptom.

LuvMySissy · 02-01-2008, 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=nvnvgirl;1721492]Hmmm....that's kind of why I was wondering. Max does this little "skip" thing with his back right leg....he doesn't do it all the time, or even very often, but I've noticed it since he was a puppy. His leg never seems to bother him at all though. So maybe he's got a mild case like Sissy does. Did she seem to have any pain or discomfort with it? I wasn't sure if it was just something Max did sometimes, or if it was a sign of LP

. Maybe I should get some of the Missing Link + for him! /QUOTE]

Sissy didn't every seem to be in pain. Her leg never "locked" like many who have LP does. I was told this is a classic sign of LP. The Missing Link+ seemed to help her a lot.

MsFamousHepburn · 02-01-2008, 01:26 PM

Jumping on and off things can cause it? WOW! Xavier loves to jump off the couch (he's a daredevil)...I didn't think it could hurt because its not a very big distant from the couch to the floor. I will have to get him to stop doing that!

nvnvgirl · 02-01-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

If Max is doing that little skip, you need to have him checked for LP as that is a classic symptom.

Thank you! I will have it checked. Is it something I should make an appt immediately for, or can it wait til he's due for his general checkup?

nvnvgirl · 02-01-2008, 01:57 PM

Sissy didn't every seem to be in pain. Her leg never "locked" like many who have LP does. I was told this is a classic sign of LP. The Missing Link+ seemed to help her a lot.[/QUOTE]

I think I'm going to get him started on the Missing Link+ right away! Even before he gets into the vet's! Thanks, Jodie!

AngieDoogles · 02-01-2008, 01:57 PM

My grandmother's shih tzu is 10 years old and was diagnosed just after Christmas. She never had any problems before then.

nvnvgirl · 02-02-2008, 09:15 AM

Angie~ oh, that's not good news! I'm sorry about your gram's dog. Does she have to have surgery for it?

And if they DO have surgery for it, is it something that "cures" the problem, so that you won't have to worry about it again? Or is it something that may possibly recur?

AngieDoogles · 02-02-2008, 09:27 AM

In my grandmother's dog's case, the surgery isn't a good option because of her age. I talked to two vets about it and both agreed that the surgery would most likely cause more arthritis which would be more pain for her than the LP. She has anti-inflammatory meds in case it becomes inflamed again and also joint supplements which won't cure the problem, but will make it act up less over time.

For younger dogs, the surgery is probably the best option (depending on the case), but I don't know whether or not it can come back. I'm sure someone else will be able to answer that for you.

01-31-2008, 10:51 PM	#1
nvnvgirl Lovin' to the MAX!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yorkieville Posts: 2,774	RE: LP...is there a timeline? I have read a few of the LP threads....but I haven't been faced with it (yet) and there's just SO much information here to read all the time, that I have to sometimes limit myself. I'm wondering though, if there is a timeline, meaning that if your dog is going to have it, will it show up within a certain amount of time? Like if they're going to have it, it will exhibit itself between , say....2 months and 2 yrs old? Or is it something we will have to always be on the lookout for? I mean, obviously, you pay attention to your dog and realize when something emergent occurs, but there's "accidents" and then this....if it's something genetic or congenital, would it be evident (other than by empirical x-rays) early on, or maybe NOT evident until they were older? Is there any point that you would be able to feel comfortable that it won't be an issue? And what are the signs and symptoms of it? Are there any prodromal signs that you might pick up BEFORE they end up with a painful situation, or is that the first sign you see? __________________ Seana and Max and Madison too! Come visit me at: celebritydogwatcher.com

02-01-2008, 05:28 AM	#2
Ladymom Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 8,317	Your vet can check your new puppy's knees when you first bring him home. Be sure to ask as many don't do this automatically. As far a timeline, they can cause LP's by jumping on and off furniture at any time in their life so it's important to have ramps and stairs. According to the OFA, Yorkies are fourth in ranking for LP's. http://www.offa.org/patluxstatbreed.html __________________ http://www.myladysdogbows.com/ http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref...6213341?ref=nf

02-01-2008, 05:50 AM	#3
Peters YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,225	you can feel the knee slipping and sometimes hear it everytime it goes off the groove it causes inflamation and irritation that can lead to arthritic problems as they get older sometimes if its bothering them they will favor or hold up a leg for a little while . __________________ A pet's love is true right from the start, through good times and bad, like sharing one heart.

02-01-2008, 07:00 AM	#4
LuvMySissy Luv my Angel, too! Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Posts: 9,333	I'm certainly not an expert here. But, our first sign with Sissy was at about 11 months old with a skipping type of motion that she would do with her back leg when in a moderate run. Thankfully, her's is a mild case and adding glucosamine to her diet (Missing Link +) has helped tremendously. Angel's legs are rock solid and she is quite the jumper. At 6 months old, the vet was a little concerned that her knees were loose, but at a year she was fine. __________________ Sissy & Angel

02-01-2008, 11:06 AM	#7
LuvMySissy Luv my Angel, too! Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Posts: 9,333	[QUOTE=nvnvgirl;1721492]Hmmm....that's kind of why I was wondering. Max does this little "skip" thing with his back right leg....he doesn't do it all the time, or even very often, but I've noticed it since he was a puppy. His leg never seems to bother him at all though. So maybe he's got a mild case like Sissy does. Did she seem to have any pain or discomfort with it? I wasn't sure if it was just something Max did sometimes, or if it was a sign of LP . Maybe I should get some of the Missing Link + for him! /QUOTE] Sissy didn't every seem to be in pain. Her leg never "locked" like many who have LP does. I was told this is a classic sign of LP. The Missing Link+ seemed to help her a lot. __________________ Sissy & Angel

02-01-2008, 01:26 PM	#8
MsFamousHepburn YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WA Posts: 536	Jumping on and off things can cause it? WOW! Xavier loves to jump off the couch (he's a daredevil)...I didn't think it could hurt because its not a very big distant from the couch to the floor. I will have to get him to stop doing that! __________________ I love my life, as a Yorkie Momma and an Army wife!

02-01-2008, 01:57 PM	#10
nvnvgirl Lovin' to the MAX!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yorkieville Posts: 2,774	Sissy didn't every seem to be in pain. Her leg never "locked" like many who have LP does. I was told this is a classic sign of LP. The Missing Link+ seemed to help her a lot.[/QUOTE] I think I'm going to get him started on the Missing Link+ right away! Even before he gets into the vet's! Thanks, Jodie! __________________ Seana and Max and Madison too! Come visit me at: celebritydogwatcher.com

02-01-2008, 01:57 PM	#11
AngieDoogles Mom to Marty & Maddie Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: TN Posts: 2,995 Blog Entries: 1	My grandmother's shih tzu is 10 years old and was diagnosed just after Christmas. She never had any problems before then. __________________ Marty Maddie

02-02-2008, 09:15 AM	#12
nvnvgirl Lovin' to the MAX!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yorkieville Posts: 2,774	Angie~ oh, that's not good news! I'm sorry about your gram's dog. Does she have to have surgery for it? And if they DO have surgery for it, is it something that "cures" the problem, so that you won't have to worry about it again? Or is it something that may possibly recur? __________________ Seana and Max and Madison too! Come visit me at: celebritydogwatcher.com

02-02-2008, 09:27 AM	#13
AngieDoogles Mom to Marty & Maddie Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: TN Posts: 2,995 Blog Entries: 1	In my grandmother's dog's case, the surgery isn't a good option because of her age. I talked to two vets about it and both agreed that the surgery would most likely cause more arthritis which would be more pain for her than the LP. She has anti-inflammatory meds in case it becomes inflamed again and also joint supplements which won't cure the problem, but will make it act up less over time. For younger dogs, the surgery is probably the best option (depending on the case), but I don't know whether or not it can come back. I'm sure someone else will be able to answer that for you. __________________ Marty Maddie