Demodectic Mange

[BobbiB]

Originally Posted by chachi

Research is fine but the treatment plan this vet has prescribed is not out of the norm. I dont think anyone but another vet should give someone advice to follow a vet treatment. It is fine to tell someone to research but thats not what you did and I will never go along with someone doing that

What are you not understanding? I DID say to research it. I told her the technique can be found on the web. I am baffled that you are still insisting that I didn't.

[BobbiB]

Originally Posted by BobbiB

There is a very safe and effective home treatment using hydrogen peroxide, Borax detergent booster and water. I know it sounds weird, and possibly intimidating, it is very, very safe and may be worth a try before trying toxic dips. The technique can easily be found on the web.

Here...

[chachi]

We are just going tohave to agree to disagree. I said I didnt see anything wrong with telling someone to do their research what I think is wrong is telling someone to forgo their vets plan for treatment and you certainly did that

[BobbiB]

Originally Posted by chachi

We are just going tohave to agree to disagree. I said I didnt see anything wrong with telling someone to do their research what I think is wrong is telling someone to forgo their vets plan for treatment and you certainly did that

Lol. No, I didn't. I said what I, me, myself, personally would try as a first option. I never said anything close to ignore your vet. Wow.

[chachi]

[QUOTE=BobbiB;4461011]I'm by no means an expert, just read some things. Personally, for just one spot, I would try home treatment first. Chances are the medicine won't harm him, but with such a minor case, I'd err on the side of caution. If it continued to spread, then I would seek more aggressive treatment. My last foster had at least fifteen small patches and I was able to clear it with the solution described above within two months, doing treating baths every week.[/QUO[/B]


This is the post I have been talking about and here you did you are telling him not to follow vet treatment and do home treatment

[BobbiB]

[quote=chachi;4461327]

Originally Posted by BobbiB

I'm by no means an expert, just read some things. Personally, for just one spot, I would try home treatment first. Chances are the medicine won't harm him, but with such a minor case, I'd err on the side of caution. If it continued to spread, then I would seek more aggressive treatment. My last foster had at least fifteen small patches and I was able to clear it with the solution described above within two months, doing treating baths every week.[/QUO[/B]


This is the post I have been talking about and here you did you are telling him not to follow vet treatment and do home treatment

You have some serious reading comprehension issues you should address. Read it ALL. "With such a minor case....if continued to spread, I WOULD SEEK MORE AGGRESSIVE TREATMENT". I gave advice, you don't agree. Big deal. I'm done with this nonsense. Your high and mighty attitude sucks, btw.

[chachi]

To the Op opinions on the internet are like a$$holes everyones got one it doesnt make it right or sound. Your vet is qualified to tell you how this needs to be treated and I hope you listen to his advice. My dog chachi started out with very minor mange but my vet didnt recognize it as mange yet he thought it was from an allergy to fleas so chachi didnt get treatment right away. It got worse and when my vet did find out it was mange his back was hairless and he had many open wounds that he had inflicted on himself. I think you can see by what I went through why I think its important to treat it appropriately before it spreads and gets as bad as it was with my dog.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by BobbiB

Yes, I did. I told her..."the technique can easily be found on the web". Verbatim.

Is having to spell out everything like I'm talking to children a solid rule for this site, or is that exclusive only to a few of you?

Pray tell, what is dangerous about my opinion? Trying a month of homeopathic, safe treatment is not detrimental to the health of the dog. Demodex is not fatal. If a safer, less big pharm treatment works, what is the harm? If it doesn't work, a more aggressive approach can be taken. Why START with aggressive? It's not cancer or bloat or poisoning...it is a mild skin problem.

I'm not trying to be nasty. I'm just having a difficult time understanding why you are so hell bent on being nasty to me because I have a different opinion than you. It's rather disturbing.

There are also verbatim instructions on the web for Voodoo dolls, I keep following them and following them but the byb's keep coming back....


Anyway, Boogie...follow your vets instructions, there is a lonnnngggg history of this disease and its detrimental affects on pups if not properly treated. This needs to be treated asap, use the homeopathic in addition if your hellbent on doing so, sounds like it wouldn't hurt (ask your vet to be sure), but before this turns in to a very expensive lesson and a very uncomfortable pup with an out of control case of demodex PLEASE DO WHAT YOUR VET SAYS....

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by chachi

To the Op opinions on the internet are like a$ everyones got one it doesnt make it right or sound. Your vet is qualified to tell you how this needs to be treated and I hope you listen to his advice. My dog chachi started out with very minor mange but my vet didnt recognize it as mange yet he thought it was from an allergy to fleas so chachi didnt get treatment right away. It got worse and when my vet did find out it was mange his back was hairless and he had many open wounds that he had inflicted on himself. I think you can see by what I went through why I think its important to treat it appropriately before it spreads and gets as bad as it was with my dog.

Exactly....printing and saving this one!!!!

[chachi]

[QUOTE=lynzy420;4461353]There are also verbatim instructions on the web for Voodoo dolls, I keep following them and following them but the byb's keep coming back....


Anyway, Boogie...follow your vets instructions, there is a lonnnngggg history of this disease and its detrimental affects on pups if not properly treated. This needs to be treated asap, use the homeopathic in addition if your hellbent on doing so, sounds like it wouldn't hurt (ask your vet to be sure), but before this turns in to a very expensive lesson and a very uncomfortable pup with an out of control case of demodex PLEASE DO WHAT YOUR VET


Thanks for bringing up something I had forgotten about. Since Chachis mange was so severe it was expensive to treat. It cost me $500 to treat it 9 yrs ago. It is so much easier to manage before it spreads out of control

[shelbysmom]

Demodectic vs. Sarcoptic Mange in Dogs - Pets Adviser


I would learn all I could about mange, the type your dog has and the different treatments. If I wasn't comfortable with my vet's treatment plan, I would get a second opinion. Treatments vary, it looks like some believe with a puppy it is best to DO NOTHING as it will resolve itself with proper nutrition and maturity. I hope you find an answer that you are comfortable with. Good luck

[shelbysmom]

Well, it can get snarky around here which can be discouraging. I found your comments a good addition to this subject. If you REALLY want to see snarky check out the diet section.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by BobbiB

It is quite refreshing how accepting and open-minded you people are to new people and ideas. You are phenomenal at making people feel welcome and like they have valid opinions and suggestions.

Wait, no, you're not. Did EITHER of you take even a millisecond to do any research on the method I was suggesting as a POSSIBLE, safe treatment? No, you didn't. You stood on your pedestals, while looking down your noses at a valid, feasible solution.

And voodoo dolls as a metaphor? Really, are you five? My suggestion has widespread validity, yours is just some snarky, pseudo-witty ridiculous shot at a put down. Better luck next time.

Well we arent giving quackery solutions to treating mange that no vet would prescribe. Then saying we a vets daughter {which I dont believe for one minute} to try to give our claims more validity. \

[BobbiB]

Originally Posted by shelbysmom

Well, it can get snarky around here which can be discouraging. I found your comments a good addition to this subject. If you REALLY want to see snarky check out the diet section.

Snarky I can handle. I just can't stand to be assumed an idiot. I do know what I'm talking about on this one. In a mild, slow progressing case, there is no problem with taking a short time to try less pharmaceutical methods.

And thank you very much for at least respecting that I can have an opinion. I truly appreciate that.

[lynzy420]

Yes I did check in to this more than a year ago and then when another member had a severe problem with it.


What I do know is that I have seen SEVERAL cases of dogs with it spread over their entire body, most recently a chocolate lab whose family could no longer afford the expense, that dog was buck naked and afraid and confused lying in the shelter. This is NOT something that should be taken lightly, it needs to be treated.


NONE of us were there when his vet diagnosed and prescribed a therapeutic treatment and NONE of us should tell him to NOT follow his vets orders. My greatest fear is this taking over the pup and the OP becoming totally overwhelmed. With a pup this young it can affect the pups permanent disposition and the owners ability to continue bonding with pup. I SEE IT ALL THE TIME.


If OP wants a second opinion or to visit a VET DERM I say wonderful, in the meantime PLEASE FOLLOW THE VETS PROVEN course of therapy.


Bobbi I did NOT totally dismiss your suggestion, I said use it in concert with the PRESCRIBED therapy but again OP, please check with your vet.


Your advice in NOT following a vets orders regarding a well known condition, without reading the chart or examining this particular dog is out of line, IMHO.