When to consider euthanasia - YorkieTalk.com Forums

bobbigirl · 08-23-2011, 10:13 AM

Baby Chan is slipping away. She is weak and frail. Suffering. BAT result was over 300. She's being force fed, on all sorts of meds and having diarrhea. Her medical bills are looking to be thousands and thousands of dollars. I'm completely in shock. She went down so fast. The vet will not even do the surgery until Baby Chan gets better and she doesn't know if she can get better. I have to consider the worst here. I'm also looking for any type of organizations who may be able to help. I will surrender Baby Chan if she has a better chance at living. I can't think straight and I'm looking for advice from anyone. This IS THE WORST thing I have ever had to think of. Deciding whether we fight and go all the way with this, or let her go peacefully.

ArmaniMan · 08-23-2011, 10:16 AM

I think euthanasia is the best option when an animal no longer has any decent quality of life. I am very sorry you are dealing with facing this decision.

DvlshAngel985 · 08-23-2011, 10:23 AM

I agree with Armani. Unfortunately, only the pet owner knows when that time comes. What does the vet say about her prognosis?

Ellie May · 08-23-2011, 10:23 AM

I posted on your other thread already, but I'd say this. There is no right or wrong answer right now. Fighting for her life while it is still possible for her to get better is not wrong, but ending her suffering and even taking financial status into consideration is not wrong either. This is something only you can decide.

She is at a veterinary hospital and isn't in extreme pain. It is perfectly acceptable to keep trying. It doesn't sound like she is with a specialist. If not, she needs to be. Feeding the wrong foods will make her symptoms worse.

I can only say what I would do. If money didn't come into the conversation, I would be at a vet school with her for assessment. If it still looks this way in a few days after the proper diet is tried, etc., then I'd think about making a decision. But this is your pup and you know her best. You are also the only person who knows your financial state and how far you think you should go.

I would recommend Care Credit.

bobbigirl · 08-23-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmaniMan

I think euthanasia is the best option when an animal no longer has any decent quality of life. I am very sorry you are dealing with facing this decision.

It's so hard. We are all in turmoil. I want to believe she can get better but even if she does can she make it through the surgery and will she be normal after since her brain has been infected with all these chemicals. I don't know what to do.

yorkietalkjilly · 08-23-2011, 10:28 AM

Oh, I am so sorry she is so ill. I am praying for her and you.

107barney · 08-23-2011, 10:29 AM

I am a fighter. I'd take my dog to the nearest large veterinary school on an emergency basis. They can either stabilize her fast or put her down there. I see this as her only option given the gravity of her situation.
You are in my thoughts.

Ellie May · 08-23-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbigirl

It's so hard. We are all in turmoil. I want to believe she can get better but even if she does can she make it through the surgery and will she be normal after since her brain has been infected with all these chemicals. I don't know what to do.

Neurological symptoms that accompany liver disease are called hepatic encephalopathy. Toxins (from food and such) don't get processed properly and set off the brain. Remove the toxin and/or fix the liver and you remove the brain issue. Even dogs with severe neuro symptoms from liver disease can stop having them if things are able to be treated. The biggest issue is that if it is a shunt that needs to be repaired, is she stable enough for surgery. My goal would be getting her stable. If she has surgery, she'll still never be a "normal" dog, but the success rate is really very good.

107barney · 08-23-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbigirl

Baby Chan is slipping away. She is weak and frail. Suffering. BAT result was over 300. She's being force fed, on all sorts of meds and having diarrhea. Her medical bills are looking to be thousands and thousands of dollars. I'm completely in shock. She went down so fast. The vet will not even do the surgery until Baby Chan gets better and she doesn't know if she can get better. I have to consider the worst here. I'm also looking for any type of organizations who may be able to help. I will surrender Baby Chan if she has a better chance at living. I can't think straight and I'm looking for advice from anyone. This IS THE WORST thing I have ever had to think of. Deciding whether we fight and go all the way with this, or let her go peacefully.

Linda (LadyJane) will be home in 30 minutes. She can possibly help you to find a resource if you want to surrender Baby Chan to the care of a reputable rescue. At least discuss this with her before putting down Baby Chan, unless of course Baby Chan is suffering.

yorkietalkjilly · 08-23-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 107barney

Linda (LadyJane) will be home in 30 minutes. She can possibly help you to find a resource if you want to surrender Baby Chan to the care of a reputable rescue. At least discuss this with her before putting down Baby Chan, unless of course Baby Chan is suffering.

Oh, I hope that could work out for the little thing if there is hope.

susan lynn · 08-23-2011, 11:16 AM

You are in my prayers as you try to make a decision that is best for you and your baby.

ladyjane · 08-23-2011, 11:21 AM

I am home but the OP has signed off. I am so sorry to hear this about Baby Chan.

Ringo1 · 08-23-2011, 11:44 AM

Oh, I am so sorry you are facing this right now. I hope Ladyjane can reach you in time; if there is time.

Prayers for Baby Chan.

143julz · 08-23-2011, 11:50 AM

prayers for you and Baby Chan

Sammy Mommy · 08-23-2011, 11:55 AM

I am so sorry that you and Baby Chan are facing such a difficult time. I'm praying for you both.

08-23-2011, 10:13 AM	#1
bobbigirl Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: san diego Posts: 90	When to consider euthanasia Baby Chan is slipping away. She is weak and frail. Suffering. BAT result was over 300. She's being force fed, on all sorts of meds and having diarrhea. Her medical bills are looking to be thousands and thousands of dollars. I'm completely in shock. She went down so fast. The vet will not even do the surgery until Baby Chan gets better and she doesn't know if she can get better. I have to consider the worst here. I'm also looking for any type of organizations who may be able to help. I will surrender Baby Chan if she has a better chance at living. I can't think straight and I'm looking for advice from anyone. This IS THE WORST thing I have ever had to think of. Deciding whether we fight and go all the way with this, or let her go peacefully.

08-23-2011, 10:16 AM	#2
ArmaniMan I ♥ Armani & Chloe Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 3,895	I think euthanasia is the best option when an animal no longer has any decent quality of life. I am very sorry you are dealing with facing this decision. __________________ Armani & Chloe

08-23-2011, 10:23 AM	#3
DvlshAngel985 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 12,693	I agree with Armani. Unfortunately, only the pet owner knows when that time comes. What does the vet say about her prognosis? __________________ Littlest JakJak We miss you Kaji

08-23-2011, 10:23 AM	#4
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	I posted on your other thread already, but I'd say this. There is no right or wrong answer right now. Fighting for her life while it is still possible for her to get better is not wrong, but ending her suffering and even taking financial status into consideration is not wrong either. This is something only you can decide. She is at a veterinary hospital and isn't in extreme pain. It is perfectly acceptable to keep trying. It doesn't sound like she is with a specialist. If not, she needs to be. Feeding the wrong foods will make her symptoms worse. I can only say what I would do. If money didn't come into the conversation, I would be at a vet school with her for assessment. If it still looks this way in a few days after the proper diet is tried, etc., then I'd think about making a decision. But this is your pup and you know her best. You are also the only person who knows your financial state and how far you think you should go. I would recommend Care Credit. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

08-23-2011, 10:28 AM	#6
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	Oh, I am so sorry she is so ill. I am praying for her and you. __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

08-23-2011, 10:29 AM	#7
107barney T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England Posts: 9,816	I am a fighter. I'd take my dog to the nearest large veterinary school on an emergency basis. They can either stabilize her fast or put her down there. I see this as her only option given the gravity of her situation. You are in my thoughts. __________________ T. Bumpkins & Co. Washable Doggie Pee Pads (Save 10% Enter YTSAVE10 at checkout) Cathy, Teddy, Winston and Baby Clyde...RIP angels Barney and Daisy

08-23-2011, 11:16 AM	#11
susan lynn Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,262	You are in my prayers as you try to make a decision that is best for you and your baby. __________________ SUSAN : TESSIE : HOBBES :CALVIN :SASSY There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face! ~ Ben Williams

08-23-2011, 11:21 AM	#12
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,471	I am home but the OP has signed off. I am so sorry to hear this about Baby Chan. __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP

08-23-2011, 11:44 AM	#13
Ringo1 Ringo (1) and Lucy too! Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On the Edge of Glory Posts: 3,447	Oh, I am so sorry you are facing this right now. I hope Ladyjane can reach you in time; if there is time. Prayers for Baby Chan. __________________ Mommy to Lucy, Ringo, and Matthew

08-23-2011, 11:50 AM	#14
143julz Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,294	prayers for you and Baby Chan __________________ Dudley Doo and Dexter too!!! RIP (12/93-10/08) MY LIL JULZ!!!

08-23-2011, 11:55 AM	#15
Sammy Mommy Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York Posts: 3,896	I am so sorry that you and Baby Chan are facing such a difficult time. I'm praying for you both.