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becky k · 07-01-2009, 02:25 PM

my baby was fine yesterday running playing and eating everything. she woke me in the night with weird noises i found her stiff gritting teeth and saliva thick and oozing out her nose and mouth .she was un responsive for a while then began shaking and was listless .a seizer for sure. i got her to the hospital they ran every test they could .no parvo lungs heart look good all blood work good EXCEPT liver emzymes but vet said he cant do shunt test on her now she is to young and needs to fast 12 hours would require fluids all night and she was to stressed. he is down to 3 things upper resp.infection.but unlikely. 2. distemper which he thinks is what her signs are even though breeders dogs are healthy and lily has not been around any dogs he said she had been at a vet office in past 12 days so could have been airborne exposure he did a test for it but wont get results until monday and told me lily will die if she has it before we even get results no real treatment tamiflu he may try if tomorrow she is throwing up wants to avoid now as it is hard on organs. he gave her clindamycin and flagl even though neg. for paracites. she is laying lifeless next to me i took her back and had iv pt in and brought her home on the iv as i am a nurse and why pay them 600.00 to just sit there .md said they cant do nothing more and it dont look good for her 20 percent survival rate. im in panic mode my heart is riped out i have cried until i need to go in myself for a sedative. im watching her die why why why she was doing soooooo well. md cant answer either. i may not be back on here tonight i dont know im to sick now to even sit up. please we need prayers my tiny baby lily is so precious and so sick .i know you guys would want to know. thanks for all your caring.

Cinq1964 · 07-01-2009, 02:29 PM

Sending prayers for Lily and you! Please keep us updated!

ChantalB · 07-01-2009, 02:32 PM

So sorry to hear that... hope she'll make it.

erickajm · 07-01-2009, 02:33 PM

I am praying that Lily makes it through this! Big hugs to you! Please keep us updated!

Judy in Waco · 07-01-2009, 02:34 PM

I will be sending you both prayers and positive thoughts. I'm so sorry she's so sick.

Harley2008 · 07-01-2009, 02:34 PM

sending hugs and Prayers your way and lilly,s way, God I hope she makes it, I know how this has to hurt. God Bless you.

valerieam · 07-01-2009, 02:35 PM

You'll be in my prayers, and little Lilly.

Ellie May · 07-01-2009, 02:38 PM

Whoa.
Please don't give up.
If liver enzymes are up, it is likely liver shunt or microvascular dysplasia.
A twelve hour fast "used" to be required for the preprandial blood draw but the recommendation has since changed. Now just a fast overnight is considered enough. When the dog is too small to fast at all, then just the postprandial can be done. If she is too small to draw anymore blood from, then she could jsut be treated as though it is LS (minus the surgery). In other words, it won't hurt to changed her to Science Diet L/D canned for now and get her on Denosyl and Lactulose immediately. If she perks up, it is likely the problem.

Why didn't the vet send her to someone who could handle this?
MSU? Oakland Referral?

Because LS is so common in Yorkies, that would be my first guess.
Of course it may be something altogether different...
I would not give her any food beyond the L/D or Royal Canin LS 14 for now.

Ellie's vet may be able to help you/refer you somewhere if it isn't too late but it would be a bit of a drive for you...

angelakc · 07-01-2009, 02:38 PM

you and Lilly are in my prayers... I pray she will be alright..

Ramseymom · 07-01-2009, 02:40 PM

I'm sorry to hear this. I will be thinking of you both.

mscat · 07-01-2009, 02:45 PM

Something I saw on animal cops about a dog who had distemper , she had squinty eyes , and when you touched the top of her of her head right in the middle, the dog would automatically flinch. It was a neurological response. this dog was very ill. Unfortunately she did not make it.
I am very sorry your baby is so sick.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your little puppy. The hardeset part is not knowing what it is that is causing the sickness .

Marissa101 · 07-01-2009, 02:49 PM

Best wishes and prayers. I hope she will be okay.

becky k · 07-01-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscat

Something I saw on animal cops about a dog who had distemper , she had squinty eyes , and when you touched the top of her of her head right in the middle, the dog would automatically flinch. It was a neurological response. this dog was very ill. Unfortunately she did not make it.
I am very sorry your baby is so sick.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your little puppy. The hardeset part is not knowing what it is that is causing the sickness .

oh my god this what lily is doing it is neurological that is why the seizures.her eyes are draining and saliva is drooling. i cant bare this pain of losing my baby .i just cant ....... what what can i dooo???

Ladymom · 07-01-2009, 02:55 PM

I am so sorry to hear about Lily.

Those early shots may not take as the maternal antibodies they get from nursing interfere with them. Puppies are 16-18 weeks before they can really respond to vaccinations so they are at a very high risk for deadly puppy diseases like distemper and parvo.

Did your vet know if he treated any cases of distemper around the time Lily had her vet appointment?

Distemper is mostly seen in pet store puppies who are taken from their mothers too soon and in close quarters with many other dogs.

I am so sorry. I pray she will pull through.

Ellie May · 07-01-2009, 02:56 PM

What ages was she vaccinated for distemper?
What symptoms did she have (if any) before yesterday?

07-01-2009, 02:25 PM	#1
becky k Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2009 Location: romulus michigan Posts: 171	Devastated ,lily kisses might not make the night my baby was fine yesterday running playing and eating everything. she woke me in the night with weird noises i found her stiff gritting teeth and saliva thick and oozing out her nose and mouth .she was un responsive for a while then began shaking and was listless .a seizer for sure. i got her to the hospital they ran every test they could .no parvo lungs heart look good all blood work good EXCEPT liver emzymes but vet said he cant do shunt test on her now she is to young and needs to fast 12 hours would require fluids all night and she was to stressed. he is down to 3 things upper resp.infection.but unlikely. 2. distemper which he thinks is what her signs are even though breeders dogs are healthy and lily has not been around any dogs he said she had been at a vet office in past 12 days so could have been airborne exposure he did a test for it but wont get results until monday and told me lily will die if she has it before we even get results no real treatment tamiflu he may try if tomorrow she is throwing up wants to avoid now as it is hard on organs. he gave her clindamycin and flagl even though neg. for paracites. she is laying lifeless next to me i took her back and had iv pt in and brought her home on the iv as i am a nurse and why pay them 600.00 to just sit there .md said they cant do nothing more and it dont look good for her 20 percent survival rate. im in panic mode my heart is riped out i have cried until i need to go in myself for a sedative. im watching her die why why why she was doing soooooo well. md cant answer either. i may not be back on here tonight i dont know im to sick now to even sit up. please we need prayers my tiny baby lily is so precious and so sick .i know you guys would want to know. thanks for all your caring.

07-01-2009, 02:29 PM	#2
Cinq1964 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,255 Blog Entries: 2	Sending prayers for Lily and you! Please keep us updated! __________________ Doggie Blankets $10 with shipping! cinq1964.webs.com

07-01-2009, 02:33 PM	#4
erickajm Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 3,200	I am praying that Lily makes it through this! Big hugs to you! Please keep us updated! __________________ Zoe Peppee Brady EARL!

07-01-2009, 02:34 PM	#5
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	I will be sending you both prayers and positive thoughts. I'm so sorry she's so sick. __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

07-01-2009, 02:38 PM	#8
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Whoa. Please don't give up. If liver enzymes are up, it is likely liver shunt or microvascular dysplasia. A twelve hour fast "used" to be required for the preprandial blood draw but the recommendation has since changed. Now just a fast overnight is considered enough. When the dog is too small to fast at all, then just the postprandial can be done. If she is too small to draw anymore blood from, then she could jsut be treated as though it is LS (minus the surgery). In other words, it won't hurt to changed her to Science Diet L/D canned for now and get her on Denosyl and Lactulose immediately. If she perks up, it is likely the problem. Why didn't the vet send her to someone who could handle this? MSU? Oakland Referral? Because LS is so common in Yorkies, that would be my first guess. Of course it may be something altogether different... I would not give her any food beyond the L/D or Royal Canin LS 14 for now. Ellie's vet may be able to help you/refer you somewhere if it isn't too late but it would be a bit of a drive for you... __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

07-01-2009, 02:32 PM	#3
ChantalB Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,042	So sorry to hear that... hope she'll make it.

07-01-2009, 02:34 PM	#6
Harley2008 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 7	sending hugs and Prayers your way and lilly,s way, God I hope she makes it, I know how this has to hurt. God Bless you.

07-01-2009, 02:35 PM	#7
valerieam Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 449	You'll be in my prayers, and little Lilly.

07-01-2009, 02:38 PM	#9
angelakc <3 by Zsa Zsa & Pixie Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: sunshine state Posts: 738	you and Lilly are in my prayers... I pray she will be alright.. __________________ Zsa Zsa and Pixie have me wrapped around their paws "Whoever said you can't buy happiness forgot little puppies"

07-01-2009, 02:40 PM	#10
Ramseymom Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 157	I'm sorry to hear this. I will be thinking of you both.

07-01-2009, 02:45 PM	#11
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	Something I saw on animal cops about a dog who had distemper , she had squinty eyes , and when you touched the top of her of her head right in the middle, the dog would automatically flinch. It was a neurological response. this dog was very ill. Unfortunately she did not make it. I am very sorry your baby is so sick. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your little puppy. The hardeset part is not knowing what it is that is causing the sickness . __________________ "No matter how little money & how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich."

07-01-2009, 02:49 PM	#12
Marissa101 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Nevada USA Posts: 818 Blog Entries: 1	Best wishes and prayers. I hope she will be okay. __________________ Yes, we made a fan club for our obssession of Johnny Depp Snickers Not just a delicious candy bar

07-01-2009, 02:55 PM	#14
Ladymom Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 8,317	I am so sorry to hear about Lily. Those early shots may not take as the maternal antibodies they get from nursing interfere with them. Puppies are 16-18 weeks before they can really respond to vaccinations so they are at a very high risk for deadly puppy diseases like distemper and parvo. Did your vet know if he treated any cases of distemper around the time Lily had her vet appointment? Distemper is mostly seen in pet store puppies who are taken from their mothers too soon and in close quarters with many other dogs. I am so sorry. I pray she will pull through. __________________ http://www.myladysdogbows.com/ http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref...6213341?ref=nf

07-01-2009, 02:56 PM	#15
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	What ages was she vaccinated for distemper? What symptoms did she have (if any) before yesterday? __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶