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Old 08-20-2007, 03:05 PM   #61
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He just admitted his guilt today !!

Thanks for the links 'For My Cody' the judge said he also had to make an apology to anyone he ever hurt.....how could he the dogs are dead.

He is very lucky he was offered a deal and we will find out next Monday how much jail time he will serve. His gambling alone should keep him out of the NFL.
Yes, I'd like to see him try to apologize to those he hurt the most - all the dogs both dead and alive but scarred for life. I agree, he's lucky there isn't a "last one to plead doesn't get a deal" law.
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honestly.. they need to lock the terrible man up.
anyone involved with such a horrid, gut-wrenching thing like dog fighting and all that goes with it..
should be locked up in a MENTAL INSTITUTION- i'm talking SOLITARY CONFINEMENT, if not jail.
he/they obviously have some serious issues. who knows what they will go for next?
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oh, and i don't get why people are so obsessed with minimal things like paris driving on a suspended liscence or whatever, but just because vick is an "almighty" football legend or whatever the hell... that he doesn't get treated like he deserves. UGH. things like this make me sick.
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The news here today said but not for sure that he is getting 18 mos in jail but the big thing is the NFL says his admission of guilt is the opposite of what he told them so that will probably end his career.

Today at Channel 5 in Cleveland people started pouring in to hand over their #7 jerseys to the Humane Society to use as cleaning rags to clean out the dogs cages. Also on ebay his jerseys that sold for $249 and $79 are going for $10 and some for one cent.
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The news here today said but not for sure that he is getting 18 mos in jail but the big thing is the NFL says his admission of guilt is the opposite of what he told them so that will probably end his career.

Today at Channel 5 in Cleveland people started pouring in to hand over their #7 jerseys to the Humane Society to use as cleaning rags to clean out the dogs cages. Also on ebay his jerseys that sold for $249 and $79 are going for $10 and some for one cent.

It looks like the State is going after him too!

Good For them!!!!!


I just might have to look for some jerseys and take them to our Humane Society for rags.

RICHMOND, Va. (Associated Press) -- Michael Vick's legal troubles from dogfighting could get even worse. The Atlanta Falcons quarterback faces possible prosecution in state court, where punishment might far exceed the maximum five years in prison that could await him in his federal case.

Local prosecutor Gerald Poindexter has said he likely will pursue charges against Vick, who has plummeted from favorite son to a symbol of animal abuse in the four months since authorities raided his Surry County property. Poindexter says the case could go before a county grand jury Sept. 25.

Poindexter did not return messages left by The Associated Press at his office and on his cell phone Tuesday.

Among the state laws Vick could be charged with violating are those against dogfighting and animal cruelty. Both are felonies punishable by up to five years in prison.

"The real question is how much overlap there would be between anything the local prosecutor would charge and what the federal prosecutors charged," said Linda Malone, a criminal procedure expert and Marshall-Wythe Foundation professor of law at the College of William and Mary. "There are some limitations on duplication."

Vick said through a lawyer Monday that he will plead guilty to a federal charge of conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiracy to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. Malone said the state dogfighting charges probably would not be considered duplicative.

"The essence of the conspiracy charge is the agreement" between Vick and his coconspirators, Malone said.

Three Vick associates have pleaded guilty to the conspiracy charge and said Vick provided virtually all the gambling and operating funds for the "Bad Newz Kennels" dogfighting enterprise. Two of them also said Vick participated in executing at least eight underperforming dogs, raising the possibility of the animal cruelty charges.

Convictions on eight animal cruelty counts could result in up to 40 years in prison if five-year terms for each count was imposed to run consecutively, but that's seldom done. Each dogfighting count could run the sentence even higher.

Vick also was facing the possibility of additional federal charges from a new grand jury meeting this week in Richmond, but his deal with prosecutors means that's now highly unlikely.

The 27-year-old player will enter his plea agreement Monday. A government official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the terms are not final, told The Associated Press that prosecutors will recommend a sentence of one year to 18 months. However, U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson is not bound by that recommendation or by federal sentencing guidelines that will call for less than the five-year maximum.

James D. "Butch" Williams Jr., one of Vick's five defense attorneys, said his client is fully aware he could be facing a long stretch in prison.

"Michael's been fully apprised of all angles, all aspects," Williams said.

It's still unclear whether all this will end the career of one of the NFL's most dazzling players.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell could rule by the end of the week, but will probably wait until Vick actually enters his plea. The league is waiting for a report by its own observers, a group headed by Eric Holder a former deputy U.S. attorney general.

"The commissioner has not decided on a specific timetable on Michael Vick's status," league spokesman Greg Aiello said Tuesday.

Vick has been barred from training camp by the NFL, and Goodell has asked the Falcons not to take any action until the league rules.

Goodell can suspend Vick under the NFL's personal conduct policy. While the league hasn't said whether a potential suspension would be concurrent with Vick's prison sentence, it probably would take effect once he is released from custody.

That means Vick likely would miss both the 2007 and 2008 seasons.

The Falcons in 2004 signed Vick to a 10-year, $130 million contract _ at the time, one of the largest in NFL history. The bonus and guaranteed money he received in his contract totaled $44 million, and the team might try to reclaim part of that.

Vick has also lost lucrative contracts with sponsors. Rawlings, Nike, Reebok and Upper Deck are among the companies that have either ended contracts with him or stopped sales of his merchandise.
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It looks like the State is going after him too!

Good For them!!!!!


I just might have to look for some jerseys and take them to our Humane Society for rags.

RICHMOND, Va. (Associated Press) -- Michael Vick's legal troubles from dogfighting could get even worse. The Atlanta Falcons quarterback faces possible prosecution in state court, where punishment might far exceed the maximum five years in prison that could await him in his federal case.

Local prosecutor Gerald Poindexter has said he likely will pursue charges against Vick, who has plummeted from favorite son to a symbol of animal abuse in the four months since authorities raided his Surry County property. Poindexter says the case could go before a county grand jury Sept. 25.

Poindexter did not return messages left by The Associated Press at his office and on his cell phone Tuesday.

Among the state laws Vick could be charged with violating are those against dogfighting and animal cruelty. Both are felonies punishable by up to five years in prison.

"The real question is how much overlap there would be between anything the local prosecutor would charge and what the federal prosecutors charged," said Linda Malone, a criminal procedure expert and Marshall-Wythe Foundation professor of law at the College of William and Mary. "There are some limitations on duplication."

Vick said through a lawyer Monday that he will plead guilty to a federal charge of conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiracy to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. Malone said the state dogfighting charges probably would not be considered duplicative.

"The essence of the conspiracy charge is the agreement" between Vick and his coconspirators, Malone said.

Three Vick associates have pleaded guilty to the conspiracy charge and said Vick provided virtually all the gambling and operating funds for the "Bad Newz Kennels" dogfighting enterprise. Two of them also said Vick participated in executing at least eight underperforming dogs, raising the possibility of the animal cruelty charges.

Convictions on eight animal cruelty counts could result in up to 40 years in prison if five-year terms for each count was imposed to run consecutively, but that's seldom done. Each dogfighting count could run the sentence even higher.

Vick also was facing the possibility of additional federal charges from a new grand jury meeting this week in Richmond, but his deal with prosecutors means that's now highly unlikely.

The 27-year-old player will enter his plea agreement Monday. A government official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the terms are not final, told The Associated Press that prosecutors will recommend a sentence of one year to 18 months. However, U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson is not bound by that recommendation or by federal sentencing guidelines that will call for less than the five-year maximum.

James D. "Butch" Williams Jr., one of Vick's five defense attorneys, said his client is fully aware he could be facing a long stretch in prison.

"Michael's been fully apprised of all angles, all aspects," Williams said.

It's still unclear whether all this will end the career of one of the NFL's most dazzling players.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell could rule by the end of the week, but will probably wait until Vick actually enters his plea. The league is waiting for a report by its own observers, a group headed by Eric Holder a former deputy U.S. attorney general.

"The commissioner has not decided on a specific timetable on Michael Vick's status," league spokesman Greg Aiello said Tuesday.

Vick has been barred from training camp by the NFL, and Goodell has asked the Falcons not to take any action until the league rules.

Goodell can suspend Vick under the NFL's personal conduct policy. While the league hasn't said whether a potential suspension would be concurrent with Vick's prison sentence, it probably would take effect once he is released from custody.

That means Vick likely would miss both the 2007 and 2008 seasons.

The Falcons in 2004 signed Vick to a 10-year, $130 million contract _ at the time, one of the largest in NFL history. The bonus and guaranteed money he received in his contract totaled $44 million, and the team might try to reclaim part of that.

Vick has also lost lucrative contracts with sponsors. Rawlings, Nike, Reebok and Upper Deck are among the companies that have either ended contracts with him or stopped sales of his merchandise.
WOW, and then add to that they were gambling on these fights so that is another issue. NFL hates any type of gambling because it leads to gambling on sports. I'd say he's in a bit of trouble. btw it's so good to see you here, it's been awhile.
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WOW, and then add to that they were gambling on these fights so that is another issue. NFL hates any type of gambling because it leads to gambling on sports. I'd say he's in a bit of trouble. btw it's so good to see you here, it's been awhile.

I guess he PUNKED them all!
He's gonna get his, just wait and see

Thanks, it has been a while, but ya know, I'm a busy little bee
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...PHCP&GT1=10347

Nearly 77,000 people voted for the stiffest penalty.
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Got any Vick trading cards? http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

And no matter what your opinion is, who in the world are the 3% who think no punishment at all? http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...PHCP&GT1=10347
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Heard today they yanked his NFL paycheck indefinitely today
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Cody the 3% was probably other dog fighting operations and a few of his buddies....can't imagine anyone else.

So glad that pay check is gone WooHoo,
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Cody the 3% was probably other dog fighting operations and a few of his buddies....can't imagine anyone else.

So glad that pay check is gone WooHoo,
Aha! Good guess there!
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Cody a couple posts up RMKC said the NFL pulled his pay check indefinitely.
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Sorry Cody, I am known to not be able to think after 10 pm and I am living up to my reputation lol. You meant good guess for the first part of it. 3% guess
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Cody a couple posts up RMKC said the NFL pulled his pay check indefinitely.
I meant good guess on who the 3% was.
"Yea!" on the paycheck. Think he'll have to sell that tainted property to give back his signing bonus? Maybe it could be sold and donated to the Humane Society.
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