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jacky · 04-02-2007, 01:59 PM

Well i went with my friend to go pick up her pom Suky who just got spayed. That little dog looked completly miserable

She was crying & in pain and was just laying there not really moving. It was such a change, usually this dog doesnt hold still for 1.2 seconds. They had her on pain killer medicines, but still.. it was a sad sad thing to see. Makes me wonder.. is spaying really worth it? 4give me if its a dumb question, ive always had boys and the neutering process is alot less painful. Im looking for a little girl yorkie, soo this question is really important. Please dont be mad, im really like 99% sure im going to spay my lil girl, im just curious & a lil sad about seeing that lil pom soo much in pain, i hope she bounces back soon

Pipersmommy · 04-02-2007, 02:06 PM

I thought the same thing. Why spay if I'm not breeding? From what I have read the percentage of cancer is a lot higher. My girls were not in any pain thanks to meds. With in a few days they were back having fun.

makemepretty · 04-02-2007, 02:12 PM

I'm on the fence about it. My girls have always been kept inside(except for when I take them out potty). There has NEVER been a chance of them getting bred. I know it helps healthwise they say, but the two dogs I had previously were not fixed and were small and lived to be 12 & 15. That seems about right age wise.

I just can't convince myself that it's ok to remove ovaries from a female. The hormones have to be necessary for something, not just reproducing. I have read that a female or male will grow taller if fixed due to the hormones being off. Not sure if it's true though.

kalina82 · 04-02-2007, 02:20 PM

spaying prevents ovarian cancer, breast cancer, pyometras and some other things. its best to get them spayed at 6 months so their chance of getting cancer doesn't increase. its very sad when we have to do surgery on an animal later in life when its harder on then when it could have been prevented at a very young age. a spay on an older dog who's developed cancer or a pyo is very hard on them and more complicated.

Sweetums · 04-02-2007, 02:28 PM

There are some other methods of spaying that are less invasive and there is one method that leaves the ovaries intact. There is the laser method which allows them to heal much more quickly and there is another method where they just tie their tubes, like they do with humans. I wish I'd known about these other options before we had our baby spayed last Monday, but she is finally doing better since this weekend.

kalina82 · 04-02-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetums

There are some other methods of spaying that are less invasive and there is one method that leaves the ovaries intact. There is the laser method which allows them to heal much more quickly and there is another method where they just tie their tubes, like they do with humans. I wish I'd known about these other options before we had our baby spayed last Monday, but she is finally doing better since this weekend.

organ's left inside still have the chance to develope cancer. removing them or leaving them has no effect on the pain in their recovery. morgan was her usual self hours after surgery and wasn't painful at all. she was 2.5 pounds when it was done. Now the english bull dog that we spayed last week who was 30 pounds screamed and screamed and screamed after surgery because that's just her personality. some dogs can handle pain better then others.

MsCheryle478 · 04-02-2007, 02:34 PM

I haven't spayed any of my females. My male Chin has been fixed. I don't see it as necessary and took care of the breeding problem by fixing my Chin. I guess I see it the same in women. Men can go in for a quick outpatient fix and no more children. For women it's a huge ordeal. I also believe that there is no reason to start yanking out female's body parts just so they won't have babies.

YorkieRose · 04-02-2007, 02:39 PM

Unfortunately, Yorkies are prone to pyrometra when left intact...then you have a emergancy spay at $1200/$1500 to save the Yorks life...I have never had a female react to spaying...they come home and run through the house finding out what happened when they were gone.

jacky · 04-02-2007, 03:26 PM

but during heat, dont dogs bleed just like we do? do they get cramps and stuff? if they do bleed, thats a problem because my entire house is white.. including the carpeting. we are prepared for accidents during puppy hood, but not evrey month lol

Sweetums · 04-02-2007, 03:49 PM

Yes, they have some discharge during heat, but there are panties with disposable liners for that purpose. There are some really cute ones called Fancy Pants with ruffles on them. They tie on the sides.

I don't like the idea of removing organs, but our vet talked us into it. Afterward I thought, how much worse could it be if she were to have had a caesarian. Otoh, my husband would not have been happy having to change her little disposables and he's the one home with her all day while I work.

My baby was in bad shape afterward. She whined for the entire next day and off and on for the third day. We had to get extra pain pills because she shook quite a bit as soon as the pain pills wore off. The vet said the shaking was because of pain and gave us more pain pills for her. I guess some dogs just sail through it. Our cat certainly did, but with our furbaby it was a totally different story. She apparently has a very low pain threshhold.

SadieSaysYes · 04-02-2007, 03:54 PM

I was wondering about the great spay debate as well. Sadie's 6 months now, so the spay time is coming soon; Mike and I are on the fence about whether we will, but I'm the mommy, and I say we will. LOL (Only because of the being in heat situation, plus if she ever happens to get out.)

What should I expect? Not in terms of money, but in terms of pain to my little monkey. Is it a long-ish recovery time? Should I take the days after off from work and be home with her, watching her like a hawk? Any advice or info you can give would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, I appreciate all you guys' help, I'm so new to this, and really really want to be a good mommy.

Thanks!

Kristen

MsCheryle478 · 04-03-2007, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jacky

but during heat, dont dogs bleed just like we do? do they get cramps and stuff? if they do bleed, thats a problem because my entire house is white.. including the carpeting. we are prepared for accidents during puppy hood, but not evrey month lol

My German Shep. female bleeds like a human woman does. Oh my, the mess. But it's only for a few days. All my little girls don't bleed enough to get on anything. Never have. I only know they are in heat because my male Chin licks their ears off. LOL I don't know why he does that, but they all get a good ear cleaning when they are in heat.

04-02-2007, 01:59 PM	#1
jacky YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami Posts: 308	To spay or not to spay Well i went with my friend to go pick up her pom Suky who just got spayed. That little dog looked completly miserable She was crying & in pain and was just laying there not really moving. It was such a change, usually this dog doesnt hold still for 1.2 seconds. They had her on pain killer medicines, but still.. it was a sad sad thing to see. Makes me wonder.. is spaying really worth it? 4give me if its a dumb question, ive always had boys and the neutering process is alot less painful. Im looking for a little girl yorkie, soo this question is really important. Please dont be mad, im really like 99% sure im going to spay my lil girl, im just curious & a lil sad about seeing that lil pom soo much in pain, i hope she bounces back soon

04-02-2007, 02:06 PM	#2
Pipersmommy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SW Fl Posts: 1,808	I thought the same thing. Why spay if I'm not breeding? From what I have read the percentage of cancer is a lot higher. My girls were not in any pain thanks to meds. With in a few days they were back having fun. __________________ Debbie (mommy to) Misha, Piper & Maximillion

04-02-2007, 02:12 PM	#3
makemepretty YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Middleville Posts: 933	I'm on the fence about it. My girls have always been kept inside(except for when I take them out potty). There has NEVER been a chance of them getting bred. I know it helps healthwise they say, but the two dogs I had previously were not fixed and were small and lived to be 12 & 15. That seems about right age wise. I just can't convince myself that it's ok to remove ovaries from a female. The hormones have to be necessary for something, not just reproducing. I have read that a female or male will grow taller if fixed due to the hormones being off. Not sure if it's true though. __________________ http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?j=t&i=369717

04-02-2007, 02:20 PM	#4
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: with my yorkie baby Posts: 10,141 Blog Entries: 1	spaying prevents ovarian cancer, breast cancer, pyometras and some other things. its best to get them spayed at 6 months so their chance of getting cancer doesn't increase. its very sad when we have to do surgery on an animal later in life when its harder on then when it could have been prevented at a very young age. a spay on an older dog who's developed cancer or a pyo is very hard on them and more complicated. __________________ Kellie and Morgan

04-02-2007, 02:34 PM	#7
MsCheryle478 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nebraska Posts: 422	I haven't spayed any of my females. My male Chin has been fixed. I don't see it as necessary and took care of the breeding problem by fixing my Chin. I guess I see it the same in women. Men can go in for a quick outpatient fix and no more children. For women it's a huge ordeal. I also believe that there is no reason to start yanking out female's body parts just so they won't have babies. __________________ Cheryle

04-02-2007, 02:28 PM	#5
Sweetums Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kirkland WA Posts: 431	There are some other methods of spaying that are less invasive and there is one method that leaves the ovaries intact. There is the laser method which allows them to heal much more quickly and there is another method where they just tie their tubes, like they do with humans. I wish I'd known about these other options before we had our baby spayed last Monday, but she is finally doing better since this weekend.

04-02-2007, 02:39 PM	#8
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	spaying Unfortunately, Yorkies are prone to pyrometra when left intact...then you have a emergancy spay at $1200/$1500 to save the Yorks life...I have never had a female react to spaying...they come home and run through the house finding out what happened when they were gone.

04-02-2007, 03:26 PM	#9
jacky YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami Posts: 308	but during heat, dont dogs bleed just like we do? do they get cramps and stuff? if they do bleed, thats a problem because my entire house is white.. including the carpeting. we are prepared for accidents during puppy hood, but not evrey month lol

04-02-2007, 03:49 PM	#10
Sweetums Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kirkland WA Posts: 431	Yes, they have some discharge during heat, but there are panties with disposable liners for that purpose. There are some really cute ones called Fancy Pants with ruffles on them. They tie on the sides. I don't like the idea of removing organs, but our vet talked us into it. Afterward I thought, how much worse could it be if she were to have had a caesarian. Otoh, my husband would not have been happy having to change her little disposables and he's the one home with her all day while I work. My baby was in bad shape afterward. She whined for the entire next day and off and on for the third day. We had to get extra pain pills because she shook quite a bit as soon as the pain pills wore off. The vet said the shaking was because of pain and gave us more pain pills for her. I guess some dogs just sail through it. Our cat certainly did, but with our furbaby it was a totally different story. She apparently has a very low pain threshhold.

04-02-2007, 03:54 PM	#11
SadieSaysYes Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stafford Springs, CT Posts: 75	I was wondering about the great spay debate as well. Sadie's 6 months now, so the spay time is coming soon; Mike and I are on the fence about whether we will, but I'm the mommy, and I say we will. LOL (Only because of the being in heat situation, plus if she ever happens to get out.) What should I expect? Not in terms of money, but in terms of pain to my little monkey. Is it a long-ish recovery time? Should I take the days after off from work and be home with her, watching her like a hawk? Any advice or info you can give would be greatly appreciated. BTW, I appreciate all you guys' help, I'm so new to this, and really really want to be a good mommy. Thanks! Kristen