~URGENT~Gracie needs your help NOW!!! Please!!!

[crycket27]

Gracie is in heat for her first time~~ Well last night we all go to bed (I keep Gracie locked in the bathroom during her Heat time w/ all her setup, I plan on breeding her with my Bailey when she is of age, she is only 8 months old right now, and we are skipping this heat of coarse, well there is another male dog in the house, (Harley the Chiuiwuawua)(however you spell it). Well, my little boy last night at 1 am goes potty, (he is 5 yrs old).... He lets Gracie out of her bathroom, and he also gets thirsty..... and wants to go downstairs to get water, and mistakenly allows Harley and Gracie together and he goes to sleep.
Well, I hear a dog Crying real loud, I am waking up to this, and Im thinking its Harley crying as he always is trying to get upstairs to Gracie, and I was going to try to calm him, and to my surprise it was him and Gracie LOCKED!!!!!

OH MY GOSH!!! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?????????? PLEASE TELL ME!!! I called the vets, they tell me there is a shot called an Abort shot (where can I find the risks about this? ), but I have 72 hours to do that. DO I want to do that?? Please I need advise.... Help me please??? I really do need your opinions, please I really am in desperate need for your advise?????

Thanks!!!

[cindy0721]

i would go get the shots...

[irishawk]

I can't be of a great help to you.. but I did some quick research and this is what I found:

DES (which is what is contained in the abort shot) has been very successful in treating female canine incontinence stemming from poor sphincter control. It is still available from compounding pharmacies, and at the low (1mg) dose, does not have the carcinogencic properties that were so problematic in humans. It is generally administered once a day for five days and then once every 4 to 7 days as needed.

The most serious side effect of estrogen therapy is bone marrow suppression and toxicity that may progress to a fatal aplastic anemia. Estrogen toxicity manifests itself first by a leucocytosis, followed by bone marrow depression with anemia, thrombocytopenia, and leukopenia. Blood dyscrasias and changes in the peripheral blood smear may be evident by 2 weeks. Although this serious adverse effect is more common after large or repeated doses, it may occur at the recommended dose. Side effects are more common in older animals. Because of the potential toxic side effects of estrogen use, it is always important to use the lowest effective dose for the shortest period of time.

• Other side effects include signs of estrus, lethargy, diarrhea, vomiting, vaginal discharge, pyometra, polydypsia, polyuria, and feminization of male dogs.

Precautions

• DES and other estrogens should not be used during pregnancy as it has been shown to cause fetal malformations.

• Daily administration of DES in cats resulted in lesions in the pancreas, liver and heart. Estrogens have been shown to be carcinogenic in laboratory animals.

This was taken from different sources: one says it does NOT contain the cancerous properties, the other says that on a continual basis it does.

I don't know what to tell you other than good luck and that I know you'll make the best decision for your baby.

[irishawk]

One more thing I found:

DES has been used for the prevention of pregnancy due to accidental breeding or mismating in dogs and cats. It is not generally recommended for this purpose, as it is not very effective.

[snickers mom]

Originally Posted by irishawk

One more thing I found:

DES has been used for the prevention of pregnancy due to accidental breeding or mismating in dogs and cats. It is not generally recommended for this purpose, as it is not very effective.

if you are unsure.... and if it isnt very effective... and could potentially end up creating pups with deformities... i wouldnt do it
i think it may cause some heartbreak esp if she is pregnant and then has pups w/deformities
but i dont know alot about the subject or anything really about breeding
i used to do the obgyn thing for humans and that would scare me with the ineffectiveness and possible result
i hope someone with some experience w/this in dogs can help you
good luck in what you decide i feel for you

[feminvstr]

The safest is to let her have the pups if she did get pregnant, or to spay her right away.

The abortion shot is estrogen; estrogen prevents the egg from implanting and must be used within the first 3 days BUT there are serious side effects from using large amounts of estrogen!

Hope this helps

[irishawk]

I've been doing some more research and this isn't even approved by the FDA for humans... which makes me nervous to administer to a dog. It was approved, but due to side effects, it is no longer available. Veterinarians, however, can still prescribed it.

Do you think your dog is old enough to handle a pregnancy? If so, I would go through with the pregnancy. It's not worth it to risk the shot not working and having deformed puppies and a mommy dog now at risk for developing side effects such as cancer.

Besides, I hear yorkie-chis are pretty darn cute!

[Pipersmommy]

I don't know anything about breeding, but I have a question? Is 8 months or so ok to have a litter? Is she does end up pregnant will she be a safe age to deliver?

[Amber_lv]

OMG i hope everything goes ok i'm not a breeder so i don't know what to tell you i'm sorry. bumping this up so a breeder can see it.

[chachi]

I dont think I would risk the shot I would let her have the pups

[IluvLucy]

I think I'd have to talk to my vet about the risks for Gracie both ways. I'd be worried about her having puppies so young.


Kim and Lucy

[fannie]

I personally would not risk the shot.

[Baby Blessing]

Prayers that all will be fine. Sorry that happened, but I would not risk the shot if it were mine. Patti

[ehunney]

I'm not s breeder, so i don't have any advice. I just wanted to say i hope evrything goes well for you and your little one!

[LullaBelle]

I just wanted to say that if it were my baby girl I wouldn't risk the shot.
Not knowing what most side effects are and if a side effect was cancer then 100% not. I had to put my other baby down b/c of cancer. It was the hardest thing I have ever done.