New dog bites puppies, help, anyone on how to stop this?

[Lady of Yorkies]

I'm looking for help with a new female I just bought. She is 22 months old and never had babies. We haven't had her a week. I have 2 litters of puppies that are 5 & 6 weeks old. She has bitten everyone of the older puppies. She only harmed one and it looks like he will be ok. She jumped from the back of the sofa into the xpen where the puppies were. The woman I bought her from says she doesn't know how the female will act with puppies cause she hasn't been around any. Well, now I know. The female is in heat, she started the day after I got her. An online friend said she had one like this but that she calmed down completely after she had her own puppies. At this point I am afraid to see what she would do with her own puppies. I don't know whether or not she would let them live. I have another female in heat at the same time so if I breed this female I could take the babies and give them to the other when the time comes. I am keeping her in a cage all the time except when she is walked on a leash to potty. The mother of the puppies attacked her tonight, 2x before we could get them separated, the second time the female fought back and before we could get the mamma away the second time the new female grabbed for the mamma and got her hair. We put the new girl on leash next to the food and water bowls and left her there for a while because I have heard it makes a dog mean to keep them caged up all the time. We do have food and water in her cage so she is covered both ways.

I want to know what anyone knows of how to break her of this nasty problem. PLEASE!!! I bought her to breed to a certain male and now I will go ahead and breed her and pray for enough puppies to pay for her and the harm she caused the one puppy. After that if I don't see a drastic change in her I will get her fixed and find her a good home. I must include that this is a wonderfully sweet, loving dog except when she is around puppies. She has made no offer to hurt anyone or any of the other dogs unless attacked first. I don't think a vet would put her to sleep but I have thot of asking. Anyone with any advice? Please? Sylvia

[Lady of Yorkies]

Sorry, we've had her close to 2 weeks. Sylvia

[SnowWa]

Not sure I would have gotten a new female with two such young litters in the house.

Seems like you have your hands full. Perhaps I'm wrong - but it seems like you have two females with litters - another dog in heat - and this new little girl who is in heat also. This could easily add up to 10 or 12 dogs in your house.

Plus the new little girl is now being caged all the time except for "potty trips," and you're going to go ahead and breed her hoping you'll make enough money to pay for her and a pup's injuries - also, you have considered putting her to sleep. Is this all correct?

Sounds like too much is going on for me....and, your new little female is at the bottom of the totem pole.....

I think I would try and find this little female a new loving home as soon as possible - (perhaps even get her spayed - if you are truly concerned about her caring for puppies of her own) -- and not try to get any money back by breeding her. I don't think she should be subjected to being bred and having puppies for that reason. It sounds like she would make someone a wonderful pet. I can't understand why you would even consider having her put to sleep. She's very young.

Anyway - that's what I'd do. I'd find her another home and let her enjoy a long loving life. I'm sure you'll get a lot of other suggestions.

Good luck! Carol Jean

[Lady of Yorkies]

Originally Posted by SnowWa

Not sure I would have gotten a new female with two such young litters in the house.

Seems like you have your hands full. Perhaps I'm wrong - but it seems like you have two females with litters - another dog in heat - and this new little girl who is in heat also. This could easily add up to 10 or 12 dogs in your house.

Plus the new little girl is now being caged all the time except for "potty trips," and you're going to go ahead and breed her hoping you'll make enough money to pay for her and a pup's injuries - also, you have considered putting her to sleep. Is this all correct?

Sounds like too much is going on for me....and, your new little female is at the bottom of the totem pole.....

I think I would try and find this little female a new loving home as soon as possible - (perhaps even get her spayed - if you are truly concerned about her caring for puppies of her own) -- and not try to get any money back by breeding her. I don't think she should be subjected to being bred and having puppies for that reason. It sounds like she would make someone a wonderful pet. I can't understand why you would even consider having her put to sleep. She's very young.

Anyway - that's what I'd do. I'd find her another home and let her enjoy a long loving life. I'm sure you'll get a lot of other suggestions.

Good luck! Carol Jean

LOL My Goodness! You make it sound like there is so much going on here and you don't even know the half of it! LOL

Yes, you have it very concisely but Tinker is not left out of the loving. She's so sweet. I am really considering going ahead and breeding her because I am hoping and praying that she will become a fully emotionally rounded pet. If she comes around I would go ahead and keep her. Like I said she's a terribly sweet dog. I threw in that I considered putting her down to see what anyone else would suggest. Like if other's had any experience with this type of problem. I am hoping to get a lot of responses saying that they have had good experiences with females making a complete turnaround. I haven't been very clear but Tinker doesn't spend all the time in the cage. We take turns letting out the dogs that get along. Most all of them do. It was only today that my little mama got at Tinker and started some trouble. We also have a fenced in area outside that Tinker gets to run around it too. Mostly she's penned up because she's in heat. The babies are in the xpen but we close them off from the area Tinker is in. Everyone here loves her, we just can't have her hurting any babies. Sylvia

[Olivier]

I had one like yours . She wasn't used to have puppies around her and she completely changed when she had her own . Now , she love to help the others when they have pups .

[Yorkie3]

I don't think your problem is near as bad as it sounds. She sounds like a wonderful little girl, but with her in heat, and the other mother's protective nature, what else can you expect? I would keep her away from the mom's and the puppies, so that problem is solved. Once you have found new loving homes for your puppies, you can start socializing her with your females. I would keep socializing her under supervision with the others that you have and give your full attention to this so that IF a problem arises it can be corrected immediately.

I would probably wait until her next heat if you are planning to breed her. Give her a chance to fit in to her new surroundings and so she'll feel safe and secure first. I mean you have two litters now, so please don't rush her. Two weeks in a new home, with strange dogs and puppies is not really a very long time. Please be patient with her.

[Lady of Yorkies]

Originally Posted by Olivier

I had one like yours . She wasn't used to have puppies around her and she completely changed when she had her own . Now , she love to help the others when they have pups .

I am so glad to hear this! She is so very sweet otherwise. I hated the idea that she might never change. I have 2 people now who have told me the same story. I really hope to hear more like this. I hate to believe that she can be so sweet and yet always hate puppies. Thank you, Sylvia

[Lady of Yorkies]

Originally Posted by Yorkie3

I don't think your problem is near as bad as it sounds. She sounds like a wonderful little girl, but with her in heat, and the other mother's protective nature, what else can you expect? I would keep her away from the mom's and the puppies, so that problem is solved. Once you have found new loving homes for your puppies, you can start socializing her with your females. I would keep socializing her under supervision with the others that you have and give your full attention to this so that IF a problem arises it can be corrected immediately.

I would probably wait until her next heat if you are planning to breed her. Give her a chance to fit in to her new surroundings and so she'll feel safe and secure first. I mean you have two litters now, so please don't rush her. Two weeks in a new home, with strange dogs and puppies is not really a very long time. Please be patient with her.

I think I expected everything to go along just fine when I brought her in and there were no problems between her and any of the other dogs. She did show some possessiveness over me and my husband but I thot that was because she had been moved from a loving home to a home where she was kept in a kennel and then moved again to live with us. I thot how confused she must be, not knowing what was going to happen next. I wanted this to be her last home, I hate the thot that she might have to move again. It was a 12 hour driving trip after we picked her up and I think she bonded with us quickly during that time. The other mom just ignors her but neither of her babies has been bitten. It was just luck, I have all the babies together in the same pen. Autumn the first mom has already weened her babies and Lady the second mom is still nursing all of them. Autumn goes into the pen and cleans the babies but she has no milk left. Sylvia

[BLowry]

Originally Posted by Lady of Yorkies

I'm looking for help with a new female I just bought. She is 22 months old and never had babies. We haven't had her a week. I have 2 litters of puppies that are 5 & 6 weeks old. She has bitten everyone of the older puppies. She only harmed one and it looks like he will be ok. She jumped from the back of the sofa into the xpen where the puppies were. The woman I bought her from says she doesn't know how the female will act with puppies cause she hasn't been around any. Well, now I know. The female is in heat, she started the day after I got her. An online friend said she had one like this but that she calmed down completely after she had her own puppies. At this point I am afraid to see what she would do with her own puppies. I don't know whether or not she would let them live. I have another female in heat at the same time so if I breed this female I could take the babies and give them to the other when the time comes. I am keeping her in a cage all the time except when she is walked on a leash to potty. The mother of the puppies attacked her tonight, 2x before we could get them separated, the second time the female fought back and before we could get the mamma away the second time the new female grabbed for the mamma and got her hair. We put the new girl on leash next to the food and water bowls and left her there for a while because I have heard it makes a dog mean to keep them caged up all the time. We do have food and water in her cage so she is covered both ways.

I want to know what anyone knows of how to break her of this nasty problem. PLEASE!!! I bought her to breed to a certain male and now I will go ahead and breed her and pray for enough puppies to pay for her and the harm she caused the one puppy. After that if I don't see a drastic change in her I will get her fixed and find her a good home. I must include that this is a wonderfully sweet, loving dog except when she is around puppies. She has made no offer to hurt anyone or any of the other dogs unless attacked first. I don't think a vet would put her to sleep but I have thot of asking. Anyone with any advice? Please? Sylvia

I also buy from a breeder (who else would I buy from!) She breeds yorkies and rotties....she has 5 yorkie girls and 4 of them are breeding females...she did say that they will fight when one of them comes in heat...maybe she is jealous?

[livingdustmops]

I think you should put this in the breeders section. Also please, I don't understand why you would even suggest putting her down. She is scared and has been tossed around.

[Key2Yorkies]

Originally Posted by Lady of Yorkies

I'm looking for help with a new female I just bought. She is 22 months old and never had babies. We haven't had her a week. I have 2 litters of puppies that are 5 & 6 weeks old. She has bitten everyone of the older puppies. She only harmed one and it looks like he will be ok. She jumped from the back of the sofa into the xpen where the puppies were. The woman I bought her from says she doesn't know how the female will act with puppies cause she hasn't been around any. Well, now I know. The female is in heat, she started the day after I got her. An online friend said she had one like this but that she calmed down completely after she had her own puppies. At this point I am afraid to see what she would do with her own puppies.
I don't know whether or not she would let them live. I have another female in heat at the same time so if I breed this female I could take the babies and give them to the other when the time comes. I am keeping her in a cage all the time except when she is walked on a leash to potty. The mother of the puppies attacked her tonight, 2x before we could get them separated, the second time the female fought back and before we could get the mamma away the second time the new female grabbed for the mamma and got her hair. We put the new girl on leash next to the food and water bowls and left her there for a while because I have heard it makes a dog mean to keep them caged up all the time. We do have food and water in her cage so she is covered both ways.

I want to know what anyone knows of how to break her of this nasty problem. PLEASE!!! I bought her to breed to a certain male and now I will go ahead and breed her and pray for enough puppies to pay for her and the harm she caused the one puppy. After that if I don't see a drastic change in her I will get her fixed and find her a good home. I must include that this is a wonderfully sweet, loving dog except when she is around puppies. She has made no offer to hurt anyone or any of the other dogs unless attacked first. I don't think a vet would put her to sleep but I have thot of asking. Anyone with any advice? Please? Sylvia

Sylvia,
It sounds like there's way to many"RAGING HORMONES" in one House

My Roxy gets quite irritable when she starts her heat. This poor little girl needs a break from chaotic lifestyles. I agrees with Yorkie3, I would give her one more heat cycle before breeding her. She needs a period of readjustment and getting used to the routine around your home/kennel. I also agree with SnowWa, I would definitely find her a new home

rather than put her down.
PLEASE,PLEASE! DON'T DO THAT !!
You could probably get what you paid for her. So I wouldn't worry about that. If you post her here you will probably find a loving home for her where she is not expected to be anything other than a little girl that needs a break! LOL
Key2Yorkies ~ Jan

[BamaFan121s]

Hmmm...my suggestion would be that maybe you should keep her and the puppies completely separated for now. I don't think it was the most ideal situation to bring a new dog in around such little ones. Lol...seems you may have gotten in over your head bringing in a new, obviously dominant, female to an environment where you already have your hands full caring for two litters?
In any case, if she is loving otherwise and is just not getting along with the dogs you already have, I would not think the logical choice would be to have her put down, but maybe rather have her put in another home with someone who has more time and patience to give her the attention she needs to adapt to a new home.
Good Luck!

[Susanbee51]

Unless you plan on not having any more litters, it might not be a bad idea to find a new loving home to place Tinker in. Since she is new in your home, she hasn't had time to adjust to her new surroundings. It would be better to place her now instead of waiting to see how she does, and after she has bonded with your family. If you plan on keeping her, I would wait to breed her. You have one in heat now that you plan on breeding. One litter at a time would be better than having two, especially with the uncertainty of how Tinker is going to handle her pups.

You fell in love with her. I am sure another family would too.

[Lady of Yorkies]

Originally Posted by BLowry

I also buy from a breeder (who else would I buy from!) She breeds yorkies and rotties....she has 5 yorkie girls and 4 of them are breeding females...she did say that they will fight when one of them comes in heat...maybe she is jealous?

This little girl did come from a breeder but this lady is not her breeder. I am very sure she is jealous. She went from her breeders to a home with 2 other females. I don't know how old she was when she went to her new home and I don't know how long she was there. I do know that she was loved somewhere. She was given some training which she has forgotten but she's smart enough to remember when tested. The lady I bought her from got her just before she came in heat about 6months ago. She put her in with a tiny male, Oh, I forgot to say Tinker is 10#. The male was about 3#, apparently he couldn't do the job and Tinker stayed in the kennel. I believe she was in the house of the owner before. I think she fell in love with us almost as soon as we left her last home. I've never had this problem before and I have raised poodles and cockers. At one time, including puppies I had 42 cockers and never any problems like this. Sylvia

[Lady of Yorkies]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

I think you should put this in the breeders section. Also please, I don't understand why you would even suggest putting her down. She is scared and has been tossed around.

I suggested it because I wanted everyone to know that I was considering all the options that I could think of. The reason I suggested it was because I am afraid there might be a psycological reason for her behaviour. I really like the dog and I know that she is confused and probably worried that she will move again. I really don't want that. As far as I can tell she has had 3 homes in a little over 6 months. It's time for her to have a happy loving home and I would really like it to be ours. Also, I put my request for help in this section because the most readers are here and I wanted to get the most input. I have gone to a couple of sites where I might be able to get some instructions on how to properly deal with her behaviour. I joined last night and have already gotten 2 good suggestions which I will use and see how they will turn out. I think she wants to be the alpha female in the pack but that spot is taken by me. I just need to know how to deal with a problem of this size. Most little things are easy to handle but how do you make a dog understand they can't just kill babies just because they aren't hers? See, if she were the alpha female in a pack in the wild, she would be the only one having babies. The other females wouldn't be allowed. So I have to disabuse her of the notion that she can become the alpha female in my pack. Sylvia