Nervous about Yorkies’s Weight.

[Valentine13]

I just received my second Yorkie Tuesday and took him to the vet Saturday. The vet weighed him at 5lbs at 2months old. My first Yorkie was 2lbs at 2 months old and now is 9lbs a weight that I like. I like yorkies due to their personality and weight. I do not want a Yorkie larger than 10lbs. And due to where I live my landlord does not allow medium or big dogs since their dog is afraid of bigger dogs. (Their dog is around 9lbs)

So my questions are, how big do you think a Yorkie at 5lbs at 2months will get as an adult?, the owner fed him Purina, does that affect his weight as in make him larger?, is there ever a possibility for a dog to reach adult weight earlier than a year, is there certain types of dog foods that have less fat, and if so will that help with his weight?

Thanks

[kjc]

Genetics will determine a pup’s adult size. I would never put a puppy on any diet, they need all the nutrients in puppy food to develop and grow properly, as nature and genetics intend. Fat in the food is necessary for certain vitamin metabolism.

[lilgidget]

I did a google search under adult weight for Yorkies. An 8-week old Yorkie weighing 5 lbs will be around 14 lbs at adulthood.

[Lovetodream88]

You can not put a puppy on a diet. Genetics are what determine the puppies size you can not do anything to change that. When size is that important you should go for an adult. I have four bigger yorkies and they rock. Good breeders keep puppies with their moms until 12 weeks and since this breeder didn’t could they be lying about the age of the puppy and he might be older? In all honestly if you need to rehome him please let me know. I really enjoy these larger yorkies.

[Lovetodream88]

I think he will be bigger then 14 pounds. Joey was 3 pounds at 9 weeks and is now 13 pounds.

[Mike_and_Me]

Mike was 2,5 lbs at 2 months and he is 9 lbs full grown.

I think your baby will be definitely bigger than 10 lbs but only genetics will determine his full grown size. Please dont put him on a low fat diet. He needs all the nutrients to grow. If you will try to restrict his food you will still have a bigger yorkie but with nutritional deficiencies and health issues..

[matese]

My now passed girl as an adult weighed in at 17 Lbs, this is not considered a medium size dog, it's still a small dog and your landlord would not have a problem with a 17 Lb yorkie. Please keep this baby on puppy food, it's sooo important for proper bone growth. This pup will weigh more the 10 Lbs, no one, not even your vet can tell you what this baby will weigh at full adulthood. I truly hope this dog is wanted for the dog it will be and not gotten rid of because it's heavier than what you want. I have a 12 Lb boy and he is small, not considered medium size. A medium size dogs weighs between 35 and 65Lbs, this is what your land lord does not want.

[Marna1957]

You never know......
I have known people with puppies that were HUGE as puppies that their growing slowed down and they were normal sized.
I had a very good friend that took the 'runt of the litter' Malamute puppy. She. Was. Tiny. (for her breed) she grew, and Grew, and GREW! She was NOT fat as an adult, and weighed in at 134 pounds.


THAT SAID, indications ARE showing your boy is going to be over the 7 pounds Yorkies are suppose to be according to the Standard for the Breed.


If it really bothers you, sell him to someone that will love him no matter how large he gets. Please do NOT try to control his growing. You can do him Long Term Physical Harm!

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Marna1957

You never know......
I have known people with puppies that were HUGE as puppies that their growing slowed down and they were normal sized.
I had a very good friend that took the 'runt of the litter' Malamute puppy. She. Was. Tiny. (for her breed) she grew, and Grew, and GREW! She was NOT fat as an adult, and weighed in at 134 pounds.


THAT SAID, indications ARE showing your boy is going to be over the 7 pounds Yorkies are suppose to be according to the Standard for the Breed.


If it really bothers you, sell him to someone that will love him no matter how large he gets. Please do NOT try to control his growing. You can do him Long Term Physical Harm!

I think people tend to for get yorkies used to be bigger then they were breed down to now so throw backs happen. The breeder I got Ollie from Sid at 5 months he was bigger then his parents and all his siblings so it happens sometimes. In A LOT of cases I have seen the runt become the biggest out of the litter lol.

[nanajoy]

[QUOTE=Marna1957;4801514]You never know......
I have known people with puppies that were HUGE as puppies that their growing slowed down and they were normal sized.
I had a very good friend that took the 'runt of the litter' Malamute puppy. She. Was. Tiny. (for her breed) she grew, and Grew, and GREW! She was NOT fat as an adult, and weighed in at 134 pounds.


THAT SAID, indications ARE showing your boy is going to be over the 7 pounds Yorkies are suppose to be according to the Standard for the Breed.


If it really bothers you, sell him to someone that will love him no matter how large he gets. Please do NOT try to control his growing. You can do him Long Term Physical Harm![/QUOTE\

[nanajoy]

Our Tyrone grew way beyond what his "projected weight" was, and with our vet's input, we determined that his breeder had influenced his weight by limiting his food when he was a puppy to inhibit his growth. (He did suffer some early health concerns as a result). Because I had wanted a smaller dog due to my limitations with degenerative disk disease, we considered what the implications would be if he grew to be beyond the weight that I could carry him for longer periods if need be. Our decision was to encourage him to bond with my husband, who could physically deal with him more closely (bathe him, carry him, etc.), and bring little Gus into our family. Now that we have had to say goodbye to our beloved Beauregarde, we have two very bonded yorkies...one for each of us.

Please make sure that you are able to truly love him as he is. He will be what he was intended to be. If he needs to spend his time here with another family who can accept him as he is, please consider letting him go. You, and he, will benefit from that decision!

[Marna1957]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

I think people tend to for get yorkies used to be bigger then they were breed down to now so throw backs happen. The breeder I got Ollie from Sid at 5 months he was bigger then his parents and all his siblings so it happens sometimes. In A LOT of cases I have seen the runt become the biggest out of the litter lol.

I disagree. Yorkies were bred to be a tiny breed from the beginning of when they became a breed. When the Standard was first set, it was for small to tiny dogs.



Smokey the WWII Yorkie Hero was bathed inside an Army Helmet.


FROM: The Complete Yorkshire Terrier / Gordon & Bennet; "The Weaving of the Breed".....page 29, "....a few years of it's introduction was producing dogs under five pounds....."


In the early 1900s Ch Yankee Kitty weighed in at 1 3/4 pounds. Said to be the smallest known at the time. That, is adult weight.



I get you on "throw backs'. I do. But I think most of the problems of the larger Yorkies, is breeders who are NOT breeding by the Standard. They just 'rub two dogs together' and sell their puppies for a lot of money.


I ran into a LOT of this when I was searching for my puppy. I said before and I will say again, know what you are looking for BEFORE you visit puppies listed for sale. Ask to see BOTH parents. Read the OLD Books on the Breed, not the new PC crap.



Yes. Throw Backs can and DO happen. But I think people not breeding for the Standard is the Root of the Problem. Too many people that are 'rubbing dogs together' have no idea that there even IS a Standard for Dogs written!

[matese]

Originally Posted by Marna1957

I disagree. Yorkies were bred to be a tiny breed from the beginning of when they became a breed. When the Standard was first set, it was for small to tiny dogs.



Smokey the WWII Yorkie Hero was bathed inside an Army Helmet.


FROM: The Complete Yorkshire Terrier / Gordon & Bennet; "The Weaving of the Breed".....page 29, "....a few years of it's introduction was producing dogs under five pounds....."


In the early 1900s Ch Yankee Kitty weighed in at 1 3/4 pounds. Said to be the smallest known at the time. That, is adult weight.



I get you on "throw backs'. I do. But I think most of the problems of the larger Yorkies, is breeders who are NOT breeding by the Standard. They just 'rub two dogs together' and sell their puppies for a lot of money.


I ran into a LOT of this when I was searching for my puppy. I said before and I will say again, know what you are looking for BEFORE you visit puppies listed for sale. Ask to see BOTH parents. Read the OLD Books on the Breed, not the new PC crap.



Yes. Throw Backs can and DO happen. But I think people not breeding for the Standard is the Root of the Problem. Too many people that are 'rubbing dogs together' have no idea that there even IS a Standard for Dogs written!

I have to disagree with you on yorkies were bred to be a tiny dog. I have had yorkies since early 1980's, no computers back then, I bought every book I could lay my hands on to read up on the breed. They were a bit bigger in the 1800's then our now 7 Lbs standard. Yorkies were bred down in size around the mid 1800's so they could fit into dens and burrows to flush out badgers and fox, they were then used as hunting dogs. Early 1800's when they were originally bigger they were used in mills to kill mice and rats. Appox. 1870 / 1872 they were accepted by the AKC as a breed, with standard size not to exceed 7 pounds for show dogs.

I recently read about Smoky and WWII. They used her to carry telegraph wire needed to run a through a long pipe, but you're now talking about the 1940's. By this time they were bred down to what we have now, standard 7 pound size. Smoky was 4 Lbs.

Because most yorkies bred today are not by reputable breeders that do not do the homework of grandparents, great and great great grandparents of the breeding pair to see what size puppies they throw, the cost is to great, the research is time consuming, all these breeders want is puppies, puppies, puppies, thus the bigger yorkie is born, a throw back from genes of when they were bigger dogs.

A reputable breeder puts the time and money into their breeding pair to make sure generations back, they had small puppy liters.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Marna1957

I disagree. Yorkies were bred to be a tiny breed from the beginning of when they became a breed. When the Standard was first set, it was for small to tiny dogs.



Smokey the WWII Yorkie Hero was bathed inside an Army Helmet.


FROM: The Complete Yorkshire Terrier / Gordon & Bennet; "The Weaving of the Breed".....page 29, "....a few years of it's introduction was producing dogs under five pounds....."


In the early 1900s Ch Yankee Kitty weighed in at 1 3/4 pounds. Said to be the smallest known at the time. That, is adult weight.



I get you on "throw backs'. I do. But I think most of the problems of the larger Yorkies, is breeders who are NOT breeding by the Standard. They just 'rub two dogs together' and sell their puppies for a lot of money.


I ran into a LOT of this when I was searching for my puppy. I said before and I will say again, know what you are looking for BEFORE you visit puppies listed for sale. Ask to see BOTH parents. Read the OLD Books on the Breed, not the new PC crap.



Yes. Throw Backs can and DO happen. But I think people not breeding for the Standard is the Root of the Problem. Too many people that are 'rubbing dogs together' have no idea that there even IS a Standard for Dogs written!

Well disagree is what we must do because yorkies were much closer to the 15 pounds until they were bred down. Even exceptional breeders get a larger yorkie every now and then. I personally do not like the AKC or what they have done to many breeds let alone the breeding down of yorkies. There is absolutely no reason the tail needs to be docked at all. Yes I know that AKC is the only way to insure your getting a pure bred dog but I am a bit disappointed in them. Many many puppy mill dogs are AKC registered but the AKC just cares about the money rather then cutting down on the puppy mills. I probably will never own a puppy from a reputable breeder, I will just keep taking the pups no one wants and loving them. I enjoy the bigger yorkies and am happy to have them.

[Marna1957]

Originally Posted by matese

Because most yorkies bred today are not by reputable breeders that do not do the homework of grandparents, great and great great grandparents of the breeding pair to see what size puppies they throw, the cost is to great, the research is time consuming, all these breeders want is puppies, puppies, puppies, thus the bigger yorkie is born, a throw back from genes of when they were bigger dogs.

A reputable breeder puts the time and money into their breeding pair to make sure generations back, they had small puppy liters.

INDEED, THAT WAS MY POINT!



But the other side of that coin is that when the average person sees a WELL BRED dog or any breed, or animals of any species, and decide they would like to have one, these folks are NOT doing their own Home Work. They are not searching for what they really want, they just buy the first puppy they find and expect it to look like the last Champion they saw at the Westminster.



There are Throw Backs, Indeed. However. Reputable Breeders have fewer, FAR FEWER, the point is to breed out the faults (as humanly possible, and breed as close to the Standard as they can)....and most Reputable Breeders will TELL their puppy buyers that the dog, whatever breed, could have.....if they know it is in the lines.


But let's take this further. What do you consider a Throw Back? The Breed is well established now. So? At what size point do you consider a Throw Back? To me, over 10 pounds, is not a Throw Back, but Yorkies bred too large.



Most people that are breeding these larger Yorkshire Terriers that are oversize, also DO NOT care about other features either.....teeth, legs, tracia, skin algeries.....ect., ect, ect. They care about Money. Just how much they can make on a litter.



Now? <laughs and winks> Wanna talk about Breeders INTERPRETATION of the Standard for the Breed. THAT is a 'whole nother' story line, ey? <laughs again>


How about, get ready, some of you will get this, "Kennel Blindness". THAT too is a 'whole nother' story line.


All Joking A Side. With Yorkies SIZE is important. Maybe not the most important, but they were bred small because people wanted small. Without getting into the whole 'Teacup' controversy, let's be honest. Most folks feel disappointed if their puppies grow past a certain weight. And they are not wrong to feel this way. Yorkshire Terriers are a TOY Breed and people expect them to be bred under 7 pounds with few exceptions.