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Bamboo15 · 07-30-2016, 02:13 PM

Has anyone heard that Royal Canin is too high in protein for Yorkies and can cause liver shunt? Someone just told me that today. I've been feeding my Yorkies Royal Canin.

Aprilgrl921 · 07-30-2016, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bamboo15

Has anyone heard that Royal Canin is too high in protein for Yorkies and can cause liver shunt? Someone just told me that today. I've been feeding my Yorkies Royal Canin.

I used to feed my Yorkie Royal Canin but changed to what the breeder was feeding my Yorkie. I've never heard that

Yorkiemom1 · 07-30-2016, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bamboo15

Has anyone heard that Royal Canin is too high in protein for Yorkies and can cause liver shunt? Someone just told me that today. I've been feeding my Yorkies Royal Canin.

That is PURE BS!!! I have fed my dogs RC since 1976....? '78 maybe....and have never had a dog go down with liver shunt!!! Somebody is trying to sell you a bill of goods! That is well over 70 dogs, for many, many years!!

Lilah Charm · 07-30-2016, 09:37 PM

Liver shunt is where a valve that delivers is compromised- can either be diverted in multiple places like tiny fingers or constricted in one main area. It is something they (the unfortunate) are born with and although having a liver shunt causes difficulty processing even typical amounts of protein, a diet high in protein would not cause liver shunt- as it is a physical deformity they are born with.

lovestiny · 07-31-2016, 06:47 AM

Rc is actually not high in protein compared to many other brands.

Wylie's Mom · 07-31-2016, 07:03 AM

Liver shunt is not (ever) caused by food. The only thing that food has to with LS is that *if* your dog has LS, then it needs a lower protein food. But higher protein food cannot cause it whatsoever.

Dogs are canines and really the most species-appropriate food for them is a higher protein food (vs a higher carb dog food). Some people think "oh yorkies are too small for higher protein foods" -- that is utterly ludicrous. It's like saying for humans that only people at a certain height should maintain a normal diet. Yorkies are just like ANY other canine, just smaller.

lmk0451 · 07-31-2016, 07:07 AM

Royal Canin for yorkies was recommended to be by sales person at a pet store. She said it was a good dog food for yorkies because they don't need as much protein. I didn't feel good about buying it because the first ingredient is corn or corn meal (not sure now). Any way I got talked into it but when I finished the bag I didn't buy any more. I've read the first ingredient in good dog food should be meat so that's why I wouldn't buy it again. Blossom is not a good eater. She likes any food for the first couple of days and then don't want to see it again. Wish I could find something she don't get bored with.

Bamboo15 · 07-31-2016, 09:53 AM

The person who told me is actually a show breeder in NJ. I didn't purchase a puppy from him but may do so in the future. He said one of the other show breeders in NJ told him. I believe he feeds his dogs a brand called Max? i was seriously considering switching from Royal Canin when he told me that but I feel a bit better keeping them on it after reading these replies.

JennaPenny · 07-31-2016, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

That is PURE BS!!! I have fed my dogs RC since 1976....? '78 maybe....and have never had a dog go down with liver shunt!!! Somebody is trying to sell you a bill of goods! That is well over 70 dogs, for many, many years!!

Adding, RC is great, little gal likes Fromms better- but it's great food.

Lovetodream88 · 07-31-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bamboo15

The person who told me is actually a show breeder in NJ. I didn't purchase a puppy from him but may do so in the future. He said one of the other show breeders in NJ told him. I believe he feeds his dogs a brand called Max? i was seriously considering switching from Royal Canin when he told me that but I feel a bit better keeping them on it after reading these replies.

I think I would stay away from that breeder he obviously is not well educated in problems that are prevalent for yorkies and what causes them. I would be very concerned buying from him because he is so misinformed.

MarkFromSea · 07-31-2016, 01:27 PM

I hadn't looked at RCs specifics in quite a while, two years? What I do remember from then was in order to get the most up to date ingredients and analysis, we had to go right to the source, RC. At that time they had changed the ingredients without letting their customers know. The retailers' websites had the old info.

There is the Yorkie specific kibble:
https://www.royalcanin.com/products/...-dog-food/3051

And what seemed to be the better formula that Yorkimom uses, this might be it:
https://www.royalcanin.com/products/...-dog-food/2447

Britster · 08-02-2016, 05:51 PM

No, that's ridiculous!

yorkiefan_ · 08-02-2016, 06:20 PM

I trust my breeder (Deb Sillers) and her Royal Canin recommendation. She's a breeder with a wonderful and well deserved reputation who really knows the breed, so I trust her advice 100%.

Yorkiemom1 · 08-02-2016, 07:36 PM

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I trust my breeder (Deb Sillers) and her Royal Canin recommendation. She's a breeder with a wonderful and well deserved reputation who really knows the breed, so I trust her advice 100%.

RC is an excellent well balanced DOG FOOD....it may not be highly recommended for human consumption, but it certainly does meet all the requirements for excellent nutritional requirements for our babies. Like I said, I have used RC since the late 70's, have fed pre breeding diet to mommas, specific diet to pregnant mommas,specialty diet for puppies and lactating mommas, puppy food up to adult, then into adulthood, progressing onto my seniors. Never had any diet related issues.....take that back.....I have ONE dog that is on grain free kibble, because of an issue he has with grain in dog food....

yorkiemini · 08-03-2016, 06:11 AM

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RC is an excellent well balanced DOG FOOD....it may not be highly recommended for human consumption, but it certainly does meet all the requirements for excellent nutritional requirements for our babies. Like I said, I have used RC since the late 70's, have fed pre breeding diet to mommas, specific diet to pregnant mommas,specialty diet for puppies and lactating mommas, puppy food up to adult, then into adulthood, progressing onto my seniors. Never had any diet related issues.....take that back.....I have ONE dog that is on grain free kibble, because of an issue he has with grain in dog food....

I have offered Cali every kibble there is, especially the ones that are supposed to be the best like From grain free< and Orijen, and every time she comes back wanting the RC over the others, so that is where we stay -- she is doing great!

Mind you she will eat the other if it is all I offer, but what she wants it the RC

07-30-2016, 02:13 PM	#1
Bamboo15 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Marlboro, NJ, USA Posts: 226	Royal Canin Has anyone heard that Royal Canin is too high in protein for Yorkies and can cause liver shunt? Someone just told me that today. I've been feeding my Yorkies Royal Canin.

07-30-2016, 09:37 PM	#4
Lilah Charm Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,721	Liver shunt is where a valve that delivers is compromised- can either be diverted in multiple places like tiny fingers or constricted in one main area. It is something they (the unfortunate) are born with and although having a liver shunt causes difficulty processing even typical amounts of protein, a diet high in protein would not cause liver shunt- as it is a physical deformity they are born with. __________________ Alyssa and Lilah

07-31-2016, 07:03 AM	#6
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Liver shunt is not (ever) caused by food. The only thing that food has to with LS is that if your dog has LS, then it needs a lower protein food. But higher protein food cannot cause it whatsoever. Dogs are canines and really the most species-appropriate food for them is a higher protein food (vs a higher carb dog food). Some people think "oh yorkies are too small for higher protein foods" -- that is utterly ludicrous. It's like saying for humans that only people at a certain height should maintain a normal diet. Yorkies are just like ANY other canine, just smaller. __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°

07-31-2016, 09:53 AM	#8
Bamboo15 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Marlboro, NJ, USA Posts: 226	The person who told me is actually a show breeder in NJ. I didn't purchase a puppy from him but may do so in the future. He said one of the other show breeders in NJ told him. I believe he feeds his dogs a brand called Max? i was seriously considering switching from Royal Canin when he told me that but I feel a bit better keeping them on it after reading these replies. Last edited by Bamboo15; 07-31-2016 at 09:56 AM.

08-02-2016, 05:51 PM	#12
Britster Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,814	No, that's ridiculous! __________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier

07-31-2016, 06:47 AM	#5
lovestiny YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: ny Posts: 816	Rc is actually not high in protein compared to many other brands.

07-31-2016, 07:07 AM	#7
lmk0451 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Carbonear, NL, Canada Posts: 51	Royal Canin for yorkies was recommended to be by sales person at a pet store. She said it was a good dog food for yorkies because they don't need as much protein. I didn't feel good about buying it because the first ingredient is corn or corn meal (not sure now). Any way I got talked into it but when I finished the bag I didn't buy any more. I've read the first ingredient in good dog food should be meat so that's why I wouldn't buy it again. Blossom is not a good eater. She likes any food for the first couple of days and then don't want to see it again. Wish I could find something she don't get bored with.

07-31-2016, 01:27 PM	#11
MarkFromSea YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: King County, WA Posts: 3,817	I hadn't looked at RCs specifics in quite a while, two years? What I do remember from then was in order to get the most up to date ingredients and analysis, we had to go right to the source, RC. At that time they had changed the ingredients without letting their customers know. The retailers' websites had the old info. There is the Yorkie specific kibble: https://www.royalcanin.com/products/...-dog-food/3051 And what seemed to be the better formula that Yorkimom uses, this might be it: https://www.royalcanin.com/products/...-dog-food/2447

08-02-2016, 06:20 PM	#13
yorkiefan_ I ♥ my Cookie Monster! Donating Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,999	I trust my breeder (Deb Sillers) and her Royal Canin recommendation. She's a breeder with a wonderful and well deserved reputation who really knows the breed, so I trust her advice 100%. __________________ Cookie ;;; RIP Minnie