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Old 03-13-2015, 09:09 PM   #16
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So scary!

What is unfortunate is that, I believe, a lot of people are all "It's all how they're raised! They're giant babies!" are sometimes the ones who make things worse. I've seen these kinds of pit bull people who believe they can do no wrong simply for the fact that they are a pit bull. They are great dogs, don't get me wrong. I've known many great pits. I just don't think these kinds of people are doing their breed any favors. Unfortunately, their chance for dog aggression is much higher than other breeds (dog aggression does not equal human aggression, in any way, btw. A lot of people think the 2 go hand in hand). I personally wouldn't own one with a tiny dog, but that's just my opinion. I know some who do it with great management and are fine. It's just not something I would be comfortable with and I am more cautious around any bully breeds with Jackson.
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Old 03-13-2015, 09:34 PM   #17
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That's a huge relief to know the dogs aren't neglected and that the people see they were wrong but the sad thing is, sounds like the dogs are having bad separation anxiety and nobody is helping them. So sad. Hopefully, they will soon settle into their new routine and sleep while their owners are away, owners who will build a good, new, sturdy, escape-proof fence. But both dogs need help with their anxiety and that attack dog needs help and quick. He's a bomb waiting to go off. Training and rehabilitating him could make him over unless he's brain-damaged or ill.

So the city officials require you all to abide by the letter of the law for tags but apparently won't enforce any stronger safety rules or give a warning ticket to the owner of a dangerous dog for the protection of innocent neighborhood pets and kids, huh? That out-of-control, prey-driven dog may attack again, given the chance; and from the way you describe it, it's just itching to do just that. As far as the dog is concerned, it's his job to go after prey and attack it. He doesn't know why. He's just got very strong, prey-drive bred into him and just cannot help himself. Any dog who leaves his own yard to jump a fence, attack and maim another dog to the point of death has dangerous prey drive, poor baby. It will one day get him and his prey into more terrible trouble if no one takes control of him and lovingly works to rehab him into a submissive, happy pet with control of his baser instincts.

Nice work if you can get it for those city officials, collecting their taxes faithfully but rendering little help to people like you or your neighbor by requiring extra high and sturdy fencing for people with big, powerful dogs who have proven themselves dangerous to others.
Oh yes, they are on top of the city dog license thing. Isn't it amazing. There are no laws for pit bulls. I once asked the police....so you are telling me that you will not do anything until someone is attacked or killed? His answer to me was...yes, that is correct, they are not doing anything illegal.
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I know it is controversial but I am so glad my town has an ordinance against them, but I do know other dogs can attack as well, my last yorkie would have loved to kill another dog and he tried several times only he finally met a dog that did not back down and of course was much larger. That is also another reason to keep your yorkie away from larger dogs, many yorkies are very aggressive so you could wind up meeting up with a large dog that his minding his own business until he finds a yorkie barking and lunging at him, then the larger dog gets defensive and you can guess which dog winds up getting hurt or killed
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Old 03-14-2015, 07:58 AM   #19
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Your neighbor's poor lab puppy! I hope he will be okay.

I agree with IronMike, doesn't matter what the breed. The pit owners should not have been so confident. Anyone who thinks their dog is no threat under any circumstances is fooling themselves. We had a big Airedale, sweet as can be, but she was capable of aggression.
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I see every dog as unpredictable. You don't know what might make any dog lash out and bite. I am cautious of any dog but more so if the dog is larger and much more if it is a pit just because the damage can be so devastating.

The puppy is home and doing great. I saw pictures and the bite wounds are on her back and they are deep. Looks like one is a tear in the skin. Just made me cry to see it. If it had been my babies they for sure would not have survived. I guess that is why this is so personal to me. They got the pit bull off of her by throwing hot water in its face.

Thankfully the owners are stepping up and paying for everything. I believe they are going to rehome the dog and maybe even build a taller fence like ours. But I just wish they would have listened to our concerns and not gotten defensive and mad. All of this could probably been avoided.
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This is very sad. Really this could have happened with any large breed or even some of the more dangerous dog breeds. It's sad for the pup, the owners, and the pit bull owners who do the right things.
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Old 03-14-2015, 12:45 PM   #22
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The facts seem to be that most pitbulls are the ones who sustain an attack long enough to maim or kill, unlike most other dogs that bite or attack. But any dog can attack and maim, the bigger the more severe the damage.

My son had a fairly long battle with a 120 lb. male Akita last year who was attacking a petite dog handler and lived to tell about it. The girl was maimed, bitten 38 times, lost a lot of blood, spent 3 days in ICU, Danny had 4 bites, the dog was sent to the ER vet for treatment and everyone is okay now but it's a story anyone living around big dogs should know. Big, powerful, out-of-control dogs can be very goal-oriented and often just don't stop attacking until someone big enough can stop them.
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The dog that attacked my friend's dog happened to be a pit bull. I apologize if anyone took offense, as I did not mean to imply that pits are the only ones who attack other dogs.

Prior to this attack, the only other friend of mine who had a dog attacked and severely injured was a Yorkie attacked by a Rottweiler. It ran up on my friend's deck in her back yard grabbed her Yorkie from right under her nose and shook him like a rag doll and ran off with him. When someone chased him he dropped the dog. He was injured so badly that the vet told my friend that she was afraid that little Willie would not make it. When I went to see little Willie my heart broke. That baby was lying on blankets with his little belly full of stitches. He was so weak that he couldn't lift his little head. But when he saw me his little tail started wagging so hard that it made me cry. I have never seen so much spirit in a little creature in my life. Willie's injuries were WAY worse than the dog that was attacked by the pit.

This little guy fully recovered and is doing great. He is not afraid of other dogs. He is truly AMAZING! He is one of Deb Siller's pups and that is one reason that I always recommend her puppies. If he hadn't been such a healthy, sturdy, fighting to live with so much spirit little guy, he probably would not have made it. He amazed everyone.

I think I posted about this a few years back when it happened. Again, my sincerely apologize if anyone took it that I am bashing pit bulls. I have never had a Rottweiler or German Shepard live next door but if I did and that same thing happened, this thread would have been about a GSD or Rottie, or Be able or whatever.

Thanks for understanding and for not taking this thread in a direction that was not intended. Much appreciated.
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Don't apologize for reporting any attack, whatever the breed or type of dog. Turning a blind eye won't help any dog or its breed or type of dog. Fact is, when you Google dog bites, attacks, maimings and deaths, you readily see that most organizations and statistics listings state that pitbulls do the most physical damage and more of the human victims die due to their dire wounds. I haven't looked up the pits' dog-to-dog morbidity and mortality rates but the pitbull, with its huge bite radius, amazingly high PSI crushing bite and fierce determined bully instinct to sustain an attack until the prey stops moving, almost always seems to top the most dangerous of dog types at the moment, especially statistics from this country.

The pitbull usually outlasts all other breeds in the fight pit and is considered the best dog in any dog fight. And what's worse, the dogfighter owners breed the most aggressive and vicious to another of the same temperament but not all of the puppies are kept for fighting. Some of those pups, with the very same fighting genes, are traded, gifted, sold to the public or eventually find their way into the pet domain!

And the attitude that many pitbulls owners have that their "sweet baby" could never go rogue and attack anyone or anything is usually right; but when it's not - and any fighting genes that the dog might have in its DNA drive its prey drive to attack and bring down their prey - serious injury or death all too often result. One day when the gangs, drugs lords and toughs tire of owning "badass" dogs, rappers stop glorifying the vicious ones, dogfighting loses its cool and fighters are no longer bred to each other, the pitbull may lose its bad reputation and return to the sweet pet it used to be before the late 80's.
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The dog that attacked my friend's dog happened to be a pit bull. I apologize if anyone took offense, as I did not mean to imply that pits are the only ones who attack other dogs.

Prior to this attack, the only other friend of mine who had a dog attacked and severely injured was a Yorkie attacked by a Rottweiler. It ran up on my friend's deck in her back yard grabbed her Yorkie from right under her nose and shook him like a rag doll and ran off with him. When someone chased him he dropped the dog. He was injured so badly that the vet told my friend that she was afraid that little Willie would not make it. When I went to see little Willie my heart broke. That baby was lying on blankets with his little belly full of stitches. He was so weak that he couldn't lift his little head. But when he saw me his little tail started wagging so hard that it made me cry. I have never seen so much spirit in a little creature in my life. Willie's injuries were WAY worse than the dog that was attacked by the pit.

This little guy fully recovered and is doing great. He is not afraid of other dogs. He is truly AMAZING! He is one of Deb Siller's pups and that is one reason that I always recommend her puppies. If he hadn't been such a healthy, sturdy, fighting to live with so much spirit little guy, he probably would not have made it. He amazed everyone.

I think I posted about this a few years back when it happened. Again, my sincerely apologize if anyone took it that I am bashing pit bulls. I have never had a Rottweiler or German Shepard live next door but if I did and that same thing happened, this thread would have been about a GSD or Rottie, or Be able or whatever.

Thanks for understanding and for not taking this thread in a direction that was not intended. Much appreciated.
Oh no I didn't take offense at all.
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Oh no I didn't take offense at all.
Oh, I wasn't directing my comment to any one person at all. Just making a general statement. I realize that I might come off as criticizing pits. I am like you, I love all dogs no matter what the breed. I hate to see a dog suffer or be sick. I can't stand to see cruelty to any animal, just like you too. Thanks for your input. I appreciate everyone's comments, that is what is so great about yt. We can share our feelings and experiences and knowledge and learn from everyone.
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Oh, I wasn't directing my comment to any one person at all. Just making a general statement. I realize that I might come off as criticizing pits. I am like you, I love all dogs no matter what the breed. I hate to see a dog suffer or be sick. I can't stand to see cruelty to any animal, just like you too. Thanks for your input. I appreciate everyone's comments, that is what is so great about yt. We can share our feelings and experiences and knowledge and learn from everyone.
I watched an episode of pit bulls and Paroles a few weeks ago where a blind pit bull had been attacked by other dog oh my goodness it made me cry. I do just love dogs
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I watched an episode of pit bulls and Paroles a few weeks ago where a blind pit bull had been attacked by other dog oh my goodness it made me cry. I do just love dogs
OMG that is so upsetting. Did you see the episode where Tia picked up a pit bull abandoned at a home. The owner went to prison on drug or check charges or something and had to leave the dog behind. The dog was so vicious that everyone was afraid of it and after a year Tia was considering putting it to sleep because it t was dangerous and unadopable. Then Tia got an mail from the owner when she got out of prison saying she wanted her dog. Tia did not know how the reunion was going to go and was very appehensive. But when the dog saw his owner he became a total lover, tail wagging, kisses galore, it just melted you down. Tia was so overjoyed she was crying. I was bawling like a baby. That was my favorite episode ever.
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OMG that is so upsetting. Did you see the episode where Tia picked up a pit bull abandoned at a home. The owner went to prison on drug or check charges or something and had to leave the dog behind. The dog was so vicious that everyone was afraid of it and after a year Tia was considering putting it to sleep because it t was dangerous and unadopable. Then Tia got an mail from the owner when she got out of prison saying she wanted her dog. Tia did not know how the reunion was going to go and was very appehensive. But when the dog saw his owner he became a total lover, tail wagging, kisses galore, it just melted you down. Tia was so overjoyed she was crying. I was bawling like a baby. That was my favorite episode ever.
Yeah I saw that one it was awesome!
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Be careful. A pit can easily jump a 6 foot fence: https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+%286ft%2C6%29
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