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Old 12-02-2014, 06:13 PM   #1
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Three times this week my papilon and yorky have tore into each other. I think one or the other or both get to rough. It scares me because boo being littler. But he can instagate if he thinks there is food. I have seen him keep princess off the bed. One night he was asleep and i called princess. He jumped up and did a cat walk crouched down looking at her on the floor and groweled. Then comminsed to jump on the floor. She in turn coward down and went under the bed. She would not come up till later. They usually start out playing like tonight . Then bam at it they sound like they will kill each other. Coarse i grab them and seperate them. But even after a little bit they are cranky.

I wonder if neutering and spaying them will help. Which i plan to do. They for the most part play. Sometimes it sounds like princess is rough playing least sounds like it. The only time i had two dogs was a momma and daughter. They never carried on like that.

Anyone else have this kind of issue before how did you solve it.
Princess loves him if we put him up while we eat shes checking the door. Hes in my plate if i leave him out princess will not mess with me. Thanks
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Teddy and my cat (Guiness) are constantly "playing" and then fighting. I have to keep them apart if I'm not supervising them because the fighting escalates so quickly. Guiness is 14lbs compared to Teddy @ 4 lbs. I have not yet been able to figure out why the play turns to fight so all I know to do is supervise them when they're together and ensure they can't get to each other when they're not supervised. It's frustrating and tense, I know! Time has helped a lot but I still wouldn't trust them in the same room without me being right there with them. I thought it was all Guiness but I have seen Teddy instigate things with nipping and I think there is an issue with dominance as well as jealousy. I can't help with any solutions apart from supervision but you do have my sympathy and understanding!
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I am going through the same thing right now. Lexi is full grown at 5 lbs. and when I got my Shih Tzu, Parker, Lexi was the one annoying him but they seemed to play very well together. Just recently things have reversed. Parker is now bigger (10 lbs.) and constantly annoying Lexi. It starts as playing and then I think when Lexi is done and Parker still wants to play it escalates. A few times Parker has pulled Lexi off the couch by her tail! Sometimes its hard to tell when playing turns into fighting. I will pull Parker away when I can tell he is bothering Lexi. He is still only 5 months old so I'm hoping things get calmer between them again soon.
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Teddy and my cat (Guiness) are constantly "playing" and then fighting. I have to keep them apart if I'm not supervising them because the fighting escalates so quickly. Guiness is 14lbs compared to Teddy @ 4 lbs. I have not yet been able to figure out why the play turns to fight so all I know to do is supervise them when they're together and ensure they can't get to each other when they're not supervised. It's frustrating and tense, I know! Time has helped a lot but I still wouldn't trust them in the same room without me being right there with them. I thought it was all Guiness but I have seen Teddy instigate things with nipping and I think there is an issue with dominance as well as jealousy. I can't help with any solutions apart from supervision but you do have my sympathy and understanding!
I try really hard to show both attention but i think its jeleousy some to. Fixing to order either two seperate cages. When they fight im gonna put them both in them. But then i feel bad princess was the only baby. They actually get along fine ubless they are on the bed with me. Now that i think of it. Otherwise they run and play chase. Ugh it just scares me princess is around 10-15 where boo is maybe 7-9 but very little boned. He holds his own but to what length. There is a difference in the tone of there voices.
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I am going through the same thing right now. Lexi is full grown at 5 lbs. and when I got my Shih Tzu, Parker, Lexi was the one annoying him but they seemed to play very well together. Just recently things have reversed. Parker is now bigger (10 lbs.) and constantly annoying Lexi. It starts as playing and then I think when Lexi is done and Parker still wants to play it escalates. A few times Parker has pulled Lexi off the couch by her tail! Sometimes its hard to tell when playing turns into fighting. I will pull Parker away when I can tell he is bothering Lexi. He is still only 5 months old so I'm hoping things get calmer between them again soon.
Princess has forthe most part loved having boo around. Right now shes talking to boo. Dogs
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I think fixing them could help. If you don't get them fixed soon though you are going to end up with a big problem on your hands. You may need to call in a trainer.
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I think fixing them could help. If you don't get them fixed soon though you are going to end up with a big problem on your hands. You may need to call in a trainer.
I really hope to get some training. They both need it. Lol i need it lol
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I really hope to get some training. They both need it. Lol i need it lol
You mean they don't have you trained yet? Lol
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You mean they don't have you trained yet? Lol
Well they keep changing the rules lol
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Hi everyone, I have just joined this forum today in search for this exact solution. I have two male Yorkies, age 4 and age 10 months. The younger one being a mini Yorkie. Actually bought the second one so that the first one can have a friend to play with, but that turned out to be the opposite story. They are both attached and devoted to me and the jealousy is so hectic that I cannot sit down without both of them trying to jump on my lap and end up fighting about it. The younger one is constantly looking over his shoulder, too scared to eat or sleep without my presence. I'm actually too scared to leave them alone together for fear of the older one hurting the other real bad. He is extremely aggressive, which I never knew about him. For both their happiness and mine I cannot keep both anymore and feel that I have wronged them by putting two males in one house. Which one do I keep or is there another solution? The 4 yr old is neutered and I have read that it will help if both are, which will be my very next step, but if this does not help, what then?
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Well my dogs have settled down. I have watched the triggers. One food. I make sure i have food for both which i did before but now if boo the yorky starts getting persnickady i correct him . Princess has always stayed away if i eat. So i put boo in bathroom till im done if they start acting up. Then the being rough while playing princess has like a whine so does boo. So when i hear it get ratcheted up i tell them settle down or be nice. If they keep going i tap the instagator to distract them. Jeleousy hum boo has been spending more time with dad. Which freeked me out cause they both stayed with me. But i think boo pouts if i fuss at them for barking. But if they are both in here with me boo lays up at my neck with his head on my shoulder. Princess stays in the bend of my knees. If she hears me baby talk loving to boo she comes up and wants attention so i love on her. They have not fought for a week or more now. I got my boo for the same reason as you. Paps are not known to like other dogs. But she loves boo but ifhe fusses at her she will run up thump him back off and bark. Then do it again almost taunting him. Maybe get someone else in the house to take thepuppy while you love on your oldest. Then visa versa. I think when they know were not forcing the new one on them and love them a lot they calm down. Mine get fixed jan so we will see how that goes. My pups are fine alone but they so far only make racket at each other. But if your nervous put the puppy up. Try not to change your older dogs routeen. NOW IM NO PRO just telling you what im doing. I couldnt get rid of either dog. Just cant think of them wondering why their mommy gave them up and where did his or her family go. Just like our human kids we work with their bad habits untill they change. I gave one of my does away once was gone for two years. When i went back and seen the people i gave her to. She was outside in black dirt. We got out of the car and she seen us and howeled and barked like she was crying. She remembered us we took her back with us. But when i think of what they did to her. Well lets say never again will i do that to another dog.
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I had only girls, all 3 years apart, first 2 not spayed, 3rd one spayed, never any fight all got along, showed no jealousy except when it came time to sit on me or next to me, so I assigned them spots, who laid to the right of me, one to the left and the baby had my lap, this went well. I never had a male and female. Never had a male until I adopted lil Cody last Nov. 2013. My family and friends had male dogs, what they told me was UN-nuerted males fight for dominance. I believe if the male is nurtured the aggression will lesion or stopped completely. It is always better to nurture and spay early before aggression starts. Since the pap and yorkie get into these head butts, fixing them at this point may not work, they are use to the head butting. I would think at this point it's the roll of the dice. Nurturing, spaying is a must for the health of both sexes if they are not to be used for breeding.
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Hi everyone, I have just joined this forum today in search for this exact solution. I have two male Yorkies, age 4 and age 10 months. The younger one being a mini Yorkie. Actually bought the second one so that the first one can have a friend to play with, but that turned out to be the opposite story. They are both attached and devoted to me and the jealousy is so hectic that I cannot sit down without both of them trying to jump on my lap and end up fighting about it. The younger one is constantly looking over his shoulder, too scared to eat or sleep without my presence. I'm actually too scared to leave them alone together for fear of the older one hurting the other real bad. He is extremely aggressive, which I never knew about him. For both their happiness and mine I cannot keep both anymore and feel that I have wronged them by putting two males in one house. Which one do I keep or is there another solution? The 4 yr old is neutered and I have read that it will help if both are, which will be my very next step, but if this does not help, what then?
A un-neutered male will be the dominant one, he needs to be neutered. Neutering is done for health reasons, not to curb dominance, not to stop marking, many cases neutering will help to eliminate, or at best lesion the aggression, but it's not a guarantee. When it comes to jealousy over you, assign them spots when you sit and they want to be with you, assign one your right side, the other your left side. After you neuter the new guy and aggression is still a BIG issue I would seek advise from a trainer on aggression behavior. I would do, try everything to get these two boys to get along before re-homing the younger one. I myself could never get rid of one no matter what the issue was, I would work through it. I can understand your feeling about them not being happy being under the same roof, did you make a mistake by getting another male pup. I just couldn't get rid of one, but that is me. I pray when you neuter the young one things get better and you don't have to re-home the baby. They get confused, depressed, why did mommy throw me away. Good luck
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