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Old 01-07-2006, 05:33 PM   #1
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My little one, only 11 weeks old has decided today that she is going to start growling and even showed me some teeth trying to scare me. What is the best way to deal with her. She's trying to show that she was the boss and nip at me.. Not quite sure how to handle this.. Thanks for your answers in advance..
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When does she do this?
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Old 01-08-2006, 05:01 AM   #4
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It's pretty typical for a pup to test their boundries like that. You will want to correct the behavior by saying "No bite" in a deeper voice than your praise voice. Then praise if she stops biting and licks you happily.
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It's pretty typical for a pup to test their boundries like that. You will want to correct the behavior by saying "No bite" in a deeper voice than your praise voice. Then praise if she stops biting and licks you happily.
Have you ever used the bitter apple? Does it seem to work?
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I need more info before I put a thought out.
When did you bring her home?
What was her adjustment like when she came home?
Does she show signs that she may be fearful?
Is it in play with you?
What are you asking of her?
What is in or around her she may be guarding?
What is her body postilion?
What movement did you make?
Is she mouthy ei is she a chewer of hands and other thing?
I know she is 11 weeks but how much exercise does she get?

Depends on what the context is before I toss out a training agenda.
I would not use bitter apple at all and most definitely not till we get to the root cause.

She is 11 weeks old and lets go slow so we do not create more of an issues then she may have.

It tough to do this over the computor and much easier to have pup in hand to test a few things as well.

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When our dog does this we flip him over into a submissive position. He hasnt did it since.
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When our dog does this we flip him over into a submissive position. He hasnt did it since.
Please do not try this as it can blow up in your face fast.
You try an alpha roll a reactive and some what bigger dog and they will slice and dice your hands and possibly other things.

Plus the fall out of terrifing a good dog can leave long lasting and very hard to fix problems.

This technique is based on faulty science on wolves and chickens and was no relationship to what a dog does and why.

Please remember that I have learned many things the hard way in training and well this is one I am not proud to say I be one of them.

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Please do not try this as it can blow up in your face fast.
You try an alpha roll a reactive and some what bigger dog and they will slice and dice your hands and possibly other things.

Plus the fall out of terrifing a good dog can leave long lasting and very hard to fix problems.

This technique is based on faulty science on wolves and chickens and was no relationship to what a dog does and why.

Please remember that I have learned many things the hard way in training and well this is one I am not proud to say I be one of them.

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It worked for me and I didnt see where you gave her any solutions to do.
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It worked for me and I didnt see where you gave her any solutions to do.
You are right I did not give her any solutions as I need some answers to some questions before I give them.
I need a little more info as to if it is fear or aggrersion before I post a try this.

It may have worked for you but I would invite you to come play with my girl and any of the ones I will be with next weekend and see where it gets you.

When playing around with what may be the start of an aggressive dog you move with great care and great understanding that you may do something that could in the end cost it it's life Or make things a lot worse and in some cases a lot better.

This could be a normal puppy stage thing or it could be a problem and until I am more comfortable in what I may be dealing with I am not tossing anything out there that could make this worse for the dog.

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I have to agree with Joy due to having rescue Yorkies that I cannot have around people due to their aggression and fear biting. Joy is right that the theory dogs formed a pack with us was based on misinterpreted wolf studies and that, behaviorists believe, has been driving a lot of dogs crazy. Instead of being a forceful alpha, the owner's goal should be to become a leader - one the dog will look to for direction.

This puppy could just be going through puppy stages or is already showing signs of aggression but first the owner needs to describe what is going on with her little one. Stress in a dogs life such as excessive confinement, lack of excercise, separation distress, change in routine are all common stressors for a dog and fear and aggression are two common responses to stress. Good training starts right from the beginning and goes through a dogs life.
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I behaviorists believe, has been driving a lot of dogs crazy. Instead of being a forceful alpha, the owner's goal should be to become a leader - one the dog will look to for direction.

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Yes right out of their little minds and some ended up on the wrong end if a needle because someone got a hold of incorrectly done studies that were incomplete. Put it into practice.
Going slow and gentle gives you time to watch for reaction in the dog and get it stopped if the training is going wrong fast before a problem is made worse.

If one sees a dog loose it mind one never wants to see it again nor be responsible for that happening.
It is one very scary, hurtful event and dangerous event for both you and the dog.
Having seen my girl go through a near collapse and adreniline dump after a pit bull attack and have to fight her way back. ( which she is still doing) I know first hand just how dangerous a little one can be it is not fun at all.

I call myself a benevolent educator and guardian to my dog.

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Please do not try this as it can blow up in your face fast.
You try an alpha roll a reactive and some what bigger dog and they will slice and dice your hands and possibly other things.

Plus the fall out of terrifing a good dog can leave long lasting and very hard to fix problems.

This technique is based on faulty science on wolves and chickens and was no relationship to what a dog does and why.

Please remember that I have learned many things the hard way in training and well this is one I am not proud to say I be one of them.

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This is gonna sound so silly, and it probably looked it too, but...
This is what I do...when She-ra and Harley would growl, I pounced over them and made Big Dog sounds, scared the crap out of them...never heard another growl.
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This is gonna sound so silly, and it probably looked it too, but...
This is what I do...when She-ra and Harley would growl, I pounced over them and made Big Dog sounds, scared the crap out of them...never heard another growl.
Thats exactly what my husband di to our dog that growled and showed his teeth and he never did it again. My husband is the alpha so I think it was important that he do it. We havent had any more problems like that with Chachi.
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scared the crap out of them...never heard another growl.
I like hearing the growls lets me know I got a problem and best deal with it.
Turn off the growl you got no warning that a bite is in coming till it is to late unless you a great at reading the dog's other body signals.
Which I am not as yet and most lay people to training would miss read. Which I do a ton so a growl is a nice clear signal I better stop now.

I work not at all from fear in anyway shape or from.
Why make something afraid of us as it is the easy way when we can ask them to join up with us based in mutual trust and respect if not love.
This is just the way I tend to do things as it works best for me and the dogs I have in and around me.
When one see the fall out from doing it the other way one changes.
If it works for you great but is it working well for the dog?

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