Little Biewer Yorkies

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Exotic bird

I don't care at all about "Breed Standards" or the show ring or ribbons.
For me it's all about having a calm loving well socialized puppy.
That's what I got from Terry.

If that makes people jealous or angry and they want to sit back and
throw cowardly anonymous stones at her... well nothing I can do about that.

I'm not seeing jealousy here nor am I seeing stones being thrown.

I'm genuinely happy for you in that you have a healthy loving puppy - congrats on that, that's all any of us really hope for . I'm guessing (and correct me if I'm wrong) that you're feeling a little defensive bc your breeder is being discussed. It's not meant as a personal attack on you in any way. That said, I can see how a person would feel protective of their breeder and I might feel the same way if I was you.

But this is a forum, and a forum is where discussions happen - and we're all pretty thankful to have a place to discuss important stuff like this. I think all anyone would ask is that you maintain an open mind and allow others to have their opinions, even if they are vastly different from yours.

Some people here have valid concerns about her breeding program, and that's okay - it doesn't equate to jealousy or stones. Rather, it's just people sharing what they think are the best practice standards that result in the best outcome for the bigger picture.

Originally Posted by Verbena

I don't show. . . I just want a happy and healthy dog just like you. But I want to give my dog the best chance for a healthy and happy life by starting with a well bred pup from a reputable breeder.

The best thing I heard was from my vet when I brought him in for his wellness exam . . .. Now the practice has been around for over 100 years. . . He hasn't But He has owned the practice for 32 years . . .anyway, he said Galen was the best and healthiest "Yorkie" he has ever see. Btw I live in NY

Great post!

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Exotic bird

I don't care at all about "Breed Standards" or the show ring or ribbons.
For me it's all about having a calm loving well socialized puppy.
That's what I got from Terry.

If that makes people jealous or angry and they want to sit back and
throw cowardly anonymous stones at her... well nothing I can do about that.

Healthy should be the most important....... I find when you point the truth out to people and they realize it's true they tend to get defensive....... Why you think a good breeder is some one who risks the lives of there breeding females is beyond me.

[BobbiB]

I am currently dealing with Terry, and she has been fantastic. Just to talk a bit about my experience, it has been fabulous. The stud used for my pup's litter was small, the dam was NOT under five pounds. I have gotten health updates and pictures/videos multiple times a week.

I'm not going to sit here and say that she is perfect because, quite frankly, have any of us met a perfect person? But she cares about her dogs, she is courteous and helpful to those who purchase pups from her. The fact of the matter is that just because we hear a couple of stories (which none of us can know the entire truth of) doesn't mean that we can sit back and condemn her. Unhealthy pups can be born to the very best stock, all lines can have problem dogs.

Truth be told, I am very happy with my decision to choose Terry.

[scrapindee]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

It sounds a little fishy. Reputable breeders always like to keep in contact with the people who buy there pups.

So true.

[BobbiB]

Originally Posted by scrapindee

So true.

Truth be told, I have gotten some nerves since reading some of these posts about Terry. That said, this is the only place I have found ANY complaints about her, all by the same 2-3 people, and only one who even has any real connection with Terry at all. I have tried to get more information from these people to no avail. All of Terry's customers who I have spoken to personally have nothing but good things to say. Every search I've done has come back fine and I have done hours upon hours of searching since finding these few complaints.

I will say this, as far as staying in contact, I have had ZERO issues. Anytime I call or email, it is replied to in a timely fashion. She initiates contact with me on her own at least twice a week for updates, pictures, and videos. She is also fairly local to me and I am welcomed anytime to visit her home and my pup. I'm unsure what her recent internet issues were, but I've never had a problem speaking with her.

This whole thing is making my head spin. I don't want to support a "bad breeder", but I have had no one come forward with any real information of their claims. With me, Terry has been fantastic. I guess we shall see what happens once Sheldon comes home.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by BobbiB

Truth be told, I have gotten some nerves since reading some of these posts about Terry. That said, this is the only place I have found ANY complaints about her, all by the same 2-3 people, and only one who even has any real connection with Terry at all. I have tried to get more information from these people to no avail. All of Terry's customers who I have spoken to personally have nothing but good things to say. Every search I've done has come back fine and I have done hours upon hours of searching since finding these few complaints.

I will say this, as far as staying in contact, I have had ZERO issues. Anytime I call or email, it is replied to in a timely fashion. She initiates contact with me on her own at least twice a week for updates, pictures, and videos. She is also fairly local to me and I am welcomed anytime to visit her home and my pup. I'm unsure what her recent internet issues were, but I've never had a problem speaking with her.

This whole thing is making my head spin. I don't want to support a "bad breeder", but I have had no one come forward with any real information of their claims. With me, Terry has been fantastic. I guess we shall see what happens once Sheldon comes home.

I think w/ any breeder, ANY, there are always going to be people who will interpret their experience with them as bad, and will feel the need to spread that information. Meanwhile, the "bad" interaction may have nothing whatsoever to do with being the breeder's fault -- we've seen it here before where someone just nails a breeder to a cross --only come to find out the breeder was not at fault in the least. Those are really regrettable situations bc that bad review stays on the net forever, even if inaccurate.

That said, we do hear of plenty of bad experiences that indeed truly are the fault of the breeder...but it's usually quite obvious in those cases.

It sounds like you're fairly weighing the info you're absorbing - and that's really all you can do, ya know? It's you who has to be happy at the end of the day.

Btw, *LOVE* the name Sheldon - way too cute! I love boy names so much.

[BobbiB]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I think w/ any breeder, ANY, there are always going to be people who will interpret their experience with them as bad, and will feel the need to spread that information. Meanwhile, the "bad" interaction may have nothing whatsoever to do with being the breeder's fault -- we've seen it here before where someone just nails a breeder to a cross --only come to find out the breeder was not at fault in the least. Those are really regrettable situations bc that bad review stays on the net forever, even if inaccurate.

That said, we do hear of plenty of bad experiences that indeed truly are the fault of the breeder...but it's usually quite obvious in those cases.

It sounds like you're fairly weighing the info you're absorbing - and that's really all you can do, ya know? It's you who has to be happy at the end of the day.

Btw, *LOVE* the name Sheldon - way too cute! I love boy names so much.

Well, I can even understand occasional, mild issues from pups from even the best breeders. That's just life, and it happens. I am happy with my choice, just getting nervous as the time draws nearer, I guess. He will be seven weeks old tomorrow and he definitely SEEMS very healthy and happy.

And thanks...I'm a Big Bang Theory nerd, so he is actually Dr. Sheldon Cooper, aka Moon Pie. Lol.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by BobbiB

And thanks...I'm a Big Bang Theory nerd, so he is actually Dr. Sheldon Cooper, aka Moon Pie. Lol.

I love it.

[Buttons Smiles]

Wylie's Mom, I am a newbie to the site and own my first Yorkie, I love your comments, you sound so reasonable and level headed. The whole reason for joining a site like this is to learn and you learn from different opinions. I haven't posted because I have been so busy reading but I couldn't resist this thread. In my younger years I raised Bloodhounds and also owned and showed English Cockers. Anyone buying a purebred puppy should spend a lot of time investigating the breeder. The price guarantees NOTHING, reputable breeders often place pups or dogs to what they know is a good home. Breeding puppies properly is not a big financial gain and if you count the time you spent watching, caring, cleaning etc. you would be minus financially.

I am so glad I found Yorkietalk because there do seem to be so many things I did not know about Yorkies. I just knew I loved their looks and wonderful smart, spunky personalities. My breeder has done everything in her power to educate me. Long before bringing Buttons home she had me visit her dogs and talked and talked. I wasn't allowed to even touch her until after her first vaccine. Because the breeder is responsible I have had nothing but wonderful fun experience with my new pup. Also because Buttons is smaller than I expected the breeder would not accept a dime until I signed a contract that she would be spayed. I only wanted a healthy pet anyway and would not consider not spaying or neutering a pet animal.

I hope person buying a pup remains a member of this site for their puppy's sake there is so much knowledge here.

[bjh]

Originally Posted by Buttons Smiles

Wylie's Mom, I am a newbie to the site and own my first Yorkie, I love your comments, you sound so reasonable and level headed. The whole reason for joining a site like this is to learn and you learn from different opinions. I haven't posted because I have been so busy reading but I couldn't resist this thread. In my younger years I raised Bloodhounds and also owned and showed English Cockers. Anyone buying a purebred puppy should spend a lot of time investigating the breeder. The price guarantees NOTHING, reputable breeders often place pups or dogs to what they know is a good home. Breeding puppies properly is not a big financial gain and if you count the time you spent watching, caring, cleaning etc. you would be minus financially.

I am so glad I found Yorkietalk because there do seem to be so many things I did not know about Yorkies. I just knew I loved their looks and wonderful smart, spunky personalities. My breeder has done everything in her power to educate me. Long before bringing Buttons home she had me visit her dogs and talked and talked. I wasn't allowed to even touch her until after her first vaccine. Because the breeder is responsible I have had nothing but wonderful fun experience with my new pup. Also because Buttons is smaller than I expected the breeder would not accept a dime until I signed a contract that she would be spayed. I only wanted a healthy pet anyway and would not consider not spaying or neutering a pet animal.

I hope person buying a pup remains a member of this site for their puppy's sake there is so much knowledge here.

Welcome to YorkieTalk. YorkieTalk is a great community where Yorkie lovers learn and share valuable information. I am glad you joined in.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Buttons Smiles

Wylie's Mom, I am a newbie to the site and own my first Yorkie, I love your comments, you sound so reasonable and level headed. The whole reason for joining a site like this is to learn and you learn from different opinions. I haven't posted because I have been so busy reading but I couldn't resist this thread. In my younger years I raised Bloodhounds and also owned and showed English Cockers. Anyone buying a purebred puppy should spend a lot of time investigating the breeder. The price guarantees NOTHING, reputable breeders often place pups or dogs to what they know is a good home. Breeding puppies properly is not a big financial gain and if you count the time you spent watching, caring, cleaning etc. you would be minus financially.

I am so glad I found Yorkietalk because there do seem to be so many things I did not know about Yorkies. I just knew I loved their looks and wonderful smart, spunky personalities. My breeder has done everything in her power to educate me. Long before bringing Buttons home she had me visit her dogs and talked and talked. I wasn't allowed to even touch her until after her first vaccine. Because the breeder is responsible I have had nothing but wonderful fun experience with my new pup. Also because Buttons is smaller than I expected the breeder would not accept a dime until I signed a contract that she would be spayed. I only wanted a healthy pet anyway and would not consider not spaying or neutering a pet animal.

I hope person buying a pup remains a member of this site for their puppy's sake there is so much knowledge here.

Hi and welcome to YT ! So glad you decided to not only read, but join in and introduce yourself to us. Your breeder sounds very conscientious and that's great to hear. Your Buttons sounds just precious - would love to see some pics!

[navillusc]

Originally Posted by BobbiB

Well, I can even understand occasional, mild issues from pups from even the best breeders. That's just life, and it happens. I am happy with my choice, just getting nervous as the time draws nearer, I guess. He will be seven weeks old tomorrow and he definitely SEEMS very healthy and happy.

And thanks...I'm a Big Bang Theory nerd, so he is actually Dr. Sheldon Cooper, aka Moon Pie. Lol.

Hahaha...when I first saw you named him Sheldon, I wondered if you would call him "Shelly" or "Moon Pie"...I, too, greatly enjoy the Big Bang Theory show. Welcome, and congratulations !!!

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by sandy11

hold on!...hold on!....i am not trying to get in the middle of anything...i was scared when i read all this stuff on here....and i could not get in touch with her....now that her site is back up and i have a way to communicate with her, i will......
i have written to the person who posted that several years ago....8/1/12......i would just like the facts.
then i am off this site.
sandy

Sandy,
I see you posted on this thread BEFORE even sending me a PM asking me for the private contact information for the other dozen Yorkie Talk members who got sick pups from Terry.
Let me say my reply publically since I don't have any reason to be shady:
Search here and there is a reason people use screen names.

Terry knows very well the names of those who got sick or later dead pups from her: trying to find out whom of them are members here talking about it is NOT going to change anything.
My real name is Shannon Cunningham.
Terry knows exactly who I am & who my Elvis is.
Anyone else can give their personal identifying info themselves, I am NOT about to see people further violated or hurt, its not my place to give out anyone's real name or co tact information.
In fact it is a violation of Yorkie Talk's rules.

[maddieluca]

I read these posts about Little biewer yorkies and Terry and felt I need to add my experience so people can come to their own conclusions about what they will support.
I recently purchased a puppy from her. I got him a little over a week ago. My experience with her has been a bit puzzling. I always want to give a person the benefit of the doubt and not judge too hastily. But I will state my experience because I feel the responsibility to do so.
She was great with communication. She always got back to me and answered all my questions, sent me videos and pictures. Her dogs are beautiful and she seems to love them. I don't think they are overpriced - it's equivalent to what breeders ask for pups. It seems her life is all about these dogs. When I voiced some doubt about buying the dog, she offered full refund and told me I am not obligated to buy him.
But a few things that raised slight red flags:
She has many, many animals. More than shown on her site. She breeds cats, yorkies and biewers. She has pups that she doesn't advertise on her site. But maybe she advertised them elsewhere and are spoken for. It just made wonder what really goes on at her house.
Also, in the short time from the deposit and the final payment, she moved. I have no idea how she moved her whole operation in such short time. It seems back in april she was living with her mom. Then she must have moved out and then moved back into her mom's house since that's where she is now as of end of October.
She sent my pup to me via a pet nanny when he was 9 weeks old. He being so small I personally would have preferred 11-12 weeks, but I left that up to her to decide. I questioned her about it and she said it would be okay.
When I picked him up at the airport and was carrying him outside, I noticed a bad odor in his right ear. I didn't think much of it.
A few days after he got home, he got kennel cough and gave it to my older puppy. She said they could get stressed and contract it. I believe her - he was fine when we got him.
I also noticed a flea on him. But she has many animals and lives in florida where bugs are superfluous. It would be hard not to have a flea with the amount of animals she has. I treated him.
Then, a few days ago, I noticed his ear was very dirty - black things like coffee grinds. It was smelly and when I wiped his ear I even noticed some blood. I found out it was ear mites. That kind of explains the smell from his ear at the airport.
Terry apologized and said he got a clean bill of health from the vet the day b/4 he left and she personally cleaned his ears and maybe during the travel got them since the pet nanny brings so many dogs around the world.
But not sure...He had quite a bit of debris in his ears and didn't seem like a recent infestation. It's very contagious and now my older puppy has gotten them too.
So so far, my experience with my new pup has not been very good. I just wonder if with so many animals, the parasites are getting out of hand over there. and if that is the case, needs to be addressed.
I can't say from these things that it makes her a bad breeder - I wouldn't call her that from the little info I have.
But, with all the awful people out there scamming and trying to make a buck from pups, I feel people should share their experience as much as possible so we can all make good choices.
I would love to hear more experiences from others. Maybe to the dismay of others, I haven't ruled her out yet. I may even purchase another pup from her in the future. My little guy is so sweet, gentle, affectionate and adorable.
I would have loved to personally meet Terry in her home.
Hope this helps someone, and I appreciate all of you who share your experiences.

[maddieluca]

Hello,
I have to post again because I've read on some more and I was contacted by someone who got a pup a few days ago from Terry. Her puppy ALSO has ear mites and kennel cough! I don't trust Terry anymore. There was some fishiness, but I wasn't sure. Now I know I wasn't a unique situation "by chance" my dog had ear mites and kennel cough. I'm sure my luca came with ear mites. I'm sure she has a problem at her place with it.

I'm now scared. I'm wondering if I will have further issues with Luca and what I should do now with this info. I do not want an repeat of Concretegirl's experience or anything of that nature! I'm hoping it's just parasites (which is treatable) and the kennel cough, which he is healed from.

What are my options other than getting a pet insurance? Anything? Just pray for a healthy puppy?

I'm kicking myself for not doing more research..I did a lot of research! Days of it - weeks of it! I was also trying not to break the bank. ( Her price for my pup was a bit lower than most breeders.) I've looked at so many websites and read up. I guess if I googled Terry I would have found the few posts on her here on YT. Why didn't I do that?!!! Maybe I was too excited - or fell for the "sweet looking" website and sweet words.

Any suggestions? I called Terry and she knows Luca has kennel cough, that I found a flea on him and ear mites. She said if the vet saw ear mites b/4 she sent him to me, he would have just sent meds and Luca would still be good to sell.

nervous and a bit stressed!
Thanks!