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Zoey Zendaya · 04-02-2014, 12:28 PM

I loved it too till I did some research. All the talk that went on here about it and nobody questioned its ingredients and only one wondered why there was no ingredient list to it. I spent all afternoon looking for this information online and you cannot find it. I called the company and asked"does this shampoo contain soap?"
They said they didn't know and the " others" were out to lunch and she would call me back. That didn't happen.
My vet gave me strict instructions not to use a shampoo that contained soap because for one .....soap is an irritant but mainly because it will wash off my flea and tick topical.

Do this....Google What is soap and prepare to be floored....then try and figure out if your shampoo contains it.

chachi · 04-02-2014, 12:35 PM

It is made using the animal the mink too another reason why they didnt want to say the ingredients. I used to use it also

Maximo · 04-02-2014, 01:48 PM

That is disappointing that the company could not answer a simple question, and that they did not return your call.

As Chachi wrote, there have been threads on YT by people urging others not to use Minksheen because of the mink oil and animal cruelty.

This article explains the sodium hydroxide used to produce soap/various toiletries:
A Closer Look at Sodium Hydroxide | Personal Care Truth or Scare

There is an argument to be made that soap is too harsh and not ideal for health. I read skincare forums and there are people who never use soap on their faces. They wash only with water or various solutions of olive oil, oatmeal, and other natural ingredients. The also use sodium chloride and sulfate free shampoos.

Relative to the flea and tick preventatives -- My understanding is that the chemicals are absorbed into the body and that is how they work, so it is safe to wash after about 24 hours. In other words, the preventative is not working outside our pets' bodies, topically. Is this correct?

margaritaville · 04-02-2014, 02:19 PM

I bought the 64 oz MS from amazon and it doesn't list the ingredients. All the bottle says is, MS is a concentrated shampoo and conditioner with added benefits of an antibacterial to protect you and your pet from germs. Mink oil is added to give your pet a soft, shiny "show" quality coat with every bath. Vit E is added to help soothe and heal "Hot Spots", sensitive or irritated skin. The blend of citronella, eucalyptus, and cedar oils will protect your pet from "biting" insects and leave your pet smelling fresh for up to 7days.

Amazon sells it but they don't list the ingredients either.

I believe I read on here that some also have used it on their own hair.

CouversMom · 04-02-2014, 02:28 PM

I loved Minksheen, but chose to stop using it because it contained mink oil and I am against cruelty to animals. Me not purchasing it isn't going to stop them from making it, but I do my best to not support companies/corporations who are cruel to animals or people. (Examples: KFC, Hobby Lobby, Wal-Mart, etc).

chachi · 04-02-2014, 02:42 PM

I didnt even know they used Minks to make it until Ann the moderator pointed it out. I quess I should have because of the name but I didnt. It is really hard to not support the using of animals because no matter what we are all going to buy leather shoes but I dont see animal shampoos as a necessity that you need to support the cruelty of animals to make

Maximo · 04-02-2014, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

That is disappointing that the company could not answer a simple question, and that they did not return your call.

I thought about this a little more and I shouldn't be surprised. Unlike human hair products, most pet grooming products do not put the full list of ingredients on their bottles, and many companies will not disclose them.

Part of the reason is a real desire to keep their products from being duplicated, but I understand this does not help consumers who want to know what they are using on their pets.

Espree and Bio-Groom do not contain soap/detergent -- that much they will say. There are several other big names, but I don't want to rely on my memory alone. I would have to double check them.

chachi · 04-02-2014, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

I thought about this a little more and I shouldn't be surprised. Unlike human hair products, most pet grooming products do not put the full list of ingredients on their bottles, and many companies will not disclose them.

Part of the reason is a real desire to keep their products from being duplicated, but I understand this does not help consumers who want to know what they are using on their pets.

Espree and Bio-Groom do not contain soap/detergent -- that much they will say. There are several other big names, but I don't want to rely on my memory alone. I would have to double check them.

Biogroom is what I use now its good to know theres no soap in it

dalady25 · 04-02-2014, 02:59 PM

Well, what are you using now?

dalady25 · 04-02-2014, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoey Zandaya

I loved it too till I did some research. All the talk that went on here about it and nobody questioned its ingredients and only one wondered why there was no ingredient list to it. I spent all afternoon looking for this information online and you cannot find it. I called the company and asked"does this shampoo contain soap?"
They said they didn't know and the " others" were out to lunch and she would call me back. That didn't happen.
My vet gave me strict instructions not to use a shampoo that contained soap because for one .....soap is an irritant but mainly because it will wash off my flea and tick topical.

Do this....Google What is soap and prepare to be floored....then try and figure out if your shampoo contains it.

Sorry, I only read your first post. I see now that you say you are using Biogroom.

pstinard · 04-02-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

Relative to the flea and tick preventatives -- My understanding is that the chemicals are absorbed into the body and that is how they work, so it is safe to wash after about 24 hours. In other words, the preventative is not working outside our pets' bodies, topically. Is this correct?

Yes, that is correct. The topicals are absorbed into the body. It is safe to bathe after 24 to 48 hours.

Maximo · 04-02-2014, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pstinard

Yes, that is correct. The topicals are absorbed into the body. It is safe to bathe after 24 to 48 hours.

This is why I will never understand that so many vets say not to bathe the dog until right before the next dose. Although many vets do not understand that certain dog breeds need a bath more often than once every month or two.

nanahas3 · 04-02-2014, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CouversMom

I loved Minksheen, but chose to stop using it because it contained mink oil and I am against cruelty to animals. Me not purchasing it isn't going to stop them from making it, but I do my best to not support companies/corporations who are cruel to animals or people. (Examples: KFC, Hobby Lobby, Wal-Mart, etc).

I am confused about the Hobby Lobby part. How are they cruel to animals please?

Zoey Zendaya · 04-02-2014, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

That is disappointing that the company could not answer a simple question, and that they did not return your call.

As Chachi wrote, there have been threads on YT by people urging others not to use Minksheen because of the mink oil and animal cruelty.

This article explains the sodium hydroxide used to produce soap/various toiletries:
A Closer Look at Sodium Hydroxide | Personal Care Truth or Scare

There is an argument to be made that soap is too harsh and not ideal for health. I read skincare forums and there are people who never use soap on their faces. They wash only with water or various solutions of olive oil, oatmeal, and other natural ingredients. The also use sodium chloride and sulfate free shampoos.

Relative to the flea and tick preventatives -- My understanding is that the chemicals are absorbed into the body and that is how they work, so it is safe to wash after about 24 hours. In other words, the preventative is not working outside our pets' bodies, topically. Is this correct?

Nope, fraid not correct. This is Vectra 3D....and does not absorb into the blood stream . It is a topical, squeeze a little tube on backside mid back up to base of neck.it will then spread to other hair follicles and repel and kill fleas and ticks. They said they can feel,it spread and kinda wiggle a little, but as soon as a flea or tick lands on them they get right off. There is a picture of 2 hands one covered with mosquitoes , the other not....hmmmm

That is why you must not use a shampoo that contains soap. Washes it off.

Zoey Zendaya · 04-02-2014, 05:57 PM

My new shampoo is made by Sogeval....it is an aloe and oatmeal shampoo and on the back lists it's ingredients AND says it is a hypoallergenic soap free formulation.
So to me if compAnies don't want to follow thru with customer service concerns or divulge ingredient info ......I am suspicious there is a reason for it.

Going to start new thread to ask if there are any users of vectra3 D....dang it....I've never heard of that either!

04-02-2014, 12:28 PM	#1
Zoey Zendaya Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,221	Not using mink sheen anymore I loved it too till I did some research. All the talk that went on here about it and nobody questioned its ingredients and only one wondered why there was no ingredient list to it. I spent all afternoon looking for this information online and you cannot find it. I called the company and asked"does this shampoo contain soap?" They said they didn't know and the " others" were out to lunch and she would call me back. That didn't happen. My vet gave me strict instructions not to use a shampoo that contained soap because for one .....soap is an irritant but mainly because it will wash off my flea and tick topical. Do this....Google What is soap and prepare to be floored....then try and figure out if your shampoo contains it.

04-02-2014, 12:35 PM	#2
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	It is made using the animal the mink too another reason why they didnt want to say the ingredients. I used to use it also __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

04-02-2014, 01:48 PM	#3
Maximo ♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 25,045	That is disappointing that the company could not answer a simple question, and that they did not return your call. As Chachi wrote, there have been threads on YT by people urging others not to use Minksheen because of the mink oil and animal cruelty. This article explains the sodium hydroxide used to produce soap/various toiletries: A Closer Look at Sodium Hydroxide \| Personal Care Truth or Scare There is an argument to be made that soap is too harsh and not ideal for health. I read skincare forums and there are people who never use soap on their faces. They wash only with water or various solutions of olive oil, oatmeal, and other natural ingredients. The also use sodium chloride and sulfate free shampoos. Relative to the flea and tick preventatives -- My understanding is that the chemicals are absorbed into the body and that is how they work, so it is safe to wash after about 24 hours. In other words, the preventative is not working outside our pets' bodies, topically. Is this correct? __________________ Kristin, Max and Teddy Last edited by Maximo; 04-02-2014 at 01:49 PM.

04-02-2014, 02:19 PM	#4
margaritaville Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: west long branch, n.j. Posts: 4,457	I bought the 64 oz MS from amazon and it doesn't list the ingredients. All the bottle says is, MS is a concentrated shampoo and conditioner with added benefits of an antibacterial to protect you and your pet from germs. Mink oil is added to give your pet a soft, shiny "show" quality coat with every bath. Vit E is added to help soothe and heal "Hot Spots", sensitive or irritated skin. The blend of citronella, eucalyptus, and cedar oils will protect your pet from "biting" insects and leave your pet smelling fresh for up to 7days. Amazon sells it but they don't list the ingredients either. I believe I read on here that some also have used it on their own hair. __________________ Joan, Bubba and Sissy-BEWARE OF PUPPY MILLS breathe in, breathe out, move on -jb

04-02-2014, 02:28 PM	#5
CouversMom and Khloe Mae's too! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 14,732	I loved Minksheen, but chose to stop using it because it contained mink oil and I am against cruelty to animals. Me not purchasing it isn't going to stop them from making it, but I do my best to not support companies/corporations who are cruel to animals or people. (Examples: KFC, Hobby Lobby, Wal-Mart, etc). __________________ Michelle- mommy to Couver and Khloe Mae! http://yorkiehavenrescue.com/

04-02-2014, 02:42 PM	#6
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	I didnt even know they used Minks to make it until Ann the moderator pointed it out. I quess I should have because of the name but I didnt. It is really hard to not support the using of animals because no matter what we are all going to buy leather shoes but I dont see animal shampoos as a necessity that you need to support the cruelty of animals to make __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

04-02-2014, 02:59 PM	#9
dalady25 YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alabama Posts: 371	Well, what are you using now?

04-02-2014, 05:57 PM	#15
Zoey Zendaya Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,221	My new shampoo is made by Sogeval....it is an aloe and oatmeal shampoo and on the back lists it's ingredients AND says it is a hypoallergenic soap free formulation. So to me if compAnies don't want to follow thru with customer service concerns or divulge ingredient info ......I am suspicious there is a reason for it. Going to start new thread to ask if there are any users of vectra3 D....dang it....I've never heard of that either!