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09-03-2013, 10:08 AM | #1 |
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| Hello: New with a question :) Hello, my name is Gina and we recently decided to breed our 2 and a half year old yorkie female (Bella) just once before having her spayed.Our vet is on board and right there, and I felt that I had read everything that I could possibly read and of course ask all the right questions, but Bella is my yorkie and I would like some more personalized questions awnsered as we wait.I would also apreciate the feedback of other yorkie owners instead of the generalized canine infomation that I have read. Now, first and formost, I am not in the the US and things are handled differently here.I understand that alot of people will not agree with this, and I respect that because in the US people are told to have their dogs spayed and neutured and they leave the breeding to the pros, which is wonderful But I have the support of my vet and we have been yorkie owners for over 10 years now, so we arent going into his blindly. My dogs are loved, they are looked after and medically cared for, this has been a planned breeding and it is being handled correctly (as we are told to handle it by our vet here anyway).The puppies (if this has taken) will not be sold, and Bella (and the male) were tested beforehand etc. I think I have covered all the questions you might be asking yourselfs Anyhoo - the stud belongs to a good friend of mine (who is a breeder) and she allowed me to keep him here at home for a full week during Bellas fertile period (this was recomended by the vet.He told us to let nature takes it course instead of working around dates).We were told to expect her to allow him to cover her during 2 to 3 days, but she allowed him to mount her from the 27th of July right up until the 2nd of August.We were told to let them do their thing and not mess around too much with the natural line of things, so thatīs what we did. Now, itīs been a month and Bella is acting very different.She is always sleeping, sheīs clingy, she has lost her apetite, she refuses to jump onto the bed or the couch, has started throwing up (clear fluid) a few times a day and I noticed that she has a transparent yellow discharge coming from her vulva.Her tummy isnt much bigger although it seems harder and rounder, it has changed a little, and her nipples look a little wider but they arent bulging and she hasnt shed any hair around that area yet.The problem is, my vet is currently on vacation until the 15th, which is when I will be taking her to see him...but until then, what do you think? I have phoned another local vet, but she said they donīt usually do anything until the dog is showing anyway (and then they do an x-ray), so I am basiclly waiting for my vet to come back.It would be her first pregnancy, but even so, should it be obvious to the human eye right now or could she start to show from now? I have read what to expect from dogs in general, but as I said, I wanted a more personalized response from people that actually own yorkies. Thank you beforehand |
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09-03-2013, 01:25 PM | #2 |
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| Hello, welcome to YorkieTalk, it's nice to meet you, Bella and Milo |
09-03-2013, 06:40 PM | #3 |
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| Welcome to YT! You seem to have your mind made up and want validation here. You probably won't find anyone say anything other than to not breed with no experience. That may sound impersonal but it is what it is. There are so many life threatening chances you take...even well versed breeders lose pups. I could never recommend a lay person try breeding. With that said, I want you to know that I commend you for searching and seeking advice. No doubt at all how much you love your girl
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09-03-2013, 06:53 PM | #4 |
YT 1000 Club Member | I'm not a breeder but I wanted to give you a welcome and I hope all goes well with Bella's pregnancy ...btw maybe dogs pregnancies can effect them a bit like a humans... some show signs earlier than others. I would wait to speak with my vet on this one since he'll be able to actually see Bella |
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09-03-2013, 08:03 PM | #6 |
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| breeding own yorkiez My Yorkie is the 3yr.old pup of a lady who started out breeding her own yorkies at home and it evolved into her own breeding business (small scale). She is always right there to help her females when they whelp their pups. She always talks about having to assist the moms as they can get tired out quickly, and she has had to be sure the puppies are all wiped down with clean towels and the fluids cleared out of their throat and noses as the moms may not be good at birthing routines. Best wishes...and I would have the vet there to lend a hand. |
09-03-2013, 09:40 PM | #7 |
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| I would be talking with another vet in the interim. Is your vet the only vet in his practice or does he have associates that you can speak with? I'm not a breeder nor do I have any experience with it but I would imagine that there is quite a bit to deal with. Good luck in finding professional advice and hope all goes well with your babies delivery. Welcome to YT.
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09-03-2013, 10:19 PM | #8 | |
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Most breeders will let the couple meet & tie w/in 2-3 days, on the most fertile days. Praying & hoping you don't have premature pups. Best of luck to you & Bella.
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09-04-2013, 02:10 AM | #9 |
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| Thank you all for your awnsers and welcomes I DO understand everyones concern but please donīt worry, I promise everything has been looked into, studied and taken care of. I donīt think I explained myself properly beforehand.Bella had the following tests done about 3+ months ago: A physical examination Bacteria cultures (both Bella and the stud had those just recently) Tests for luxating patella A Cardiomypathy test A hypothyroidism test Brucellosis test Bile acid test for liver shunt I think these tests must be standard breeding program tests, or thatīs what it says on the paperwork anyway (I have no idea what half of them even mean lol) and my canine insurance covered half the cost which was great Anyway, everything turned out normal. We had those done once we started considering the possibility of breeding Bella so that just in case, it was all over and done with.The stud (Rocco) belongs to a good friend of mine and I have looked after him lots of times when she travels for work, so Bella is super comfortable around him and he gets on great with Milo too, this is also why he stayed at my house until we got the ok to let him go home...which was given to us after the vet checked a swab taken from Bella on the 1st of August.He actually did that every other day from the 26th of July to keep track of her fertile days (which I asumed was just 3 so I was confused). Anyway, we kept Bella still during each tie and kept them seperated when we went out etc.That phase went well and Bella didnt seem bothered by it at all (I guess I was expecting it to hurt the first time??). Now all I can do is wait because the vets here donīt do much of anything during the actual pregnancy (unless there is a reason to intervene) and our local ones donīt even expect you to go in to actually confirm a pregnancy.Acording to my friend (Roccos owner) the reason is because a dogs pregnancy is super short, so they think you can basiclly wait until itīs noticable to confirm it.I havent seen her for a couple of weeks and over the phone she canīt seem to help, so Iīm just pacing up and down and waiting for something to pop up and make it obvious right now lol. I DO have experience with helping bigger dogs whelp.My MIL used to breed Rateros Mallorquines (a breed of the island) and I helped quite a few times with those.Iīm actually comfortable with that phase because if there is something I canīt do, my vet will step in.Infact, the only part Iīm nervous about is the part I canīt help with..the actual pregnancy and of course, the waiting to know of she is pregnant or not. The not knowing is what makes me anxious because Iīm more of an active person and I want to be doing something all the time I feel like I should at least be rubbing her feet or fluffing her pillows Anyway, thanks again.I will keep you all posted |
09-06-2013, 07:39 AM | #10 |
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| Hi. I would check out the Breeder section here at YT and you might get more response. and I would of course which I'm sure you are already doing - start feeding her extra nutrient filled food. Good luck - it sounds like you are very prepared - the talk of breeding here brings out a lot of strong personalities - and good arguments - sounds like you are educated, ready, and love your animals and that's what is most important. Welcome to YT.
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