Puppy Mill in Lancaster PA?

[Cbucks2010]

Hello Everyone,

I am looking to buy a yorkie in PA, and I recently came across a puppy I was going to visit. I recently found out that Lancaster PA is the puppy mill capital of the east coast and I'm worried about buying my puppy from a breeder in Lancaster now... Does anyone know if there are any reputable breeders in Lancaster, or should I just steer clear and buy from someone else? I'm also looking at a puppy from Petite Pups Kennel in Loganton PA. Any information anyone has is very much appreciated!

Thanks,

Cbucks

[chachi]

If you are going there to visit you will know if they are a puppymill or not by the number of dogs they have. Have you spoken to the breeder

[Cbucks2010]

I called the breeder and arranged a time to go meet the puppy tomorrow. I was told they raise the puppies in their home. I'm just nervous. I want a happy, healthy, yorkie! :-)

[Nancy1999]

The governor of Pennsylvania enacted some great kennel laws, after the Oprah show did an expose on Pennsylvania puppy mills. Now Pennsylvania has some of the best laws in the country regarding kennel conditions. If a facility is licensed, chances are they are at least getting some vet care and are being treated in a humane fashion. However, you don’t need a license to sell over the internet directly to the public, and these places that sell over the internet are the worse puppy mills you can imagine. My advice is don’t look for a bargain, try to find a breeder that is breeding for the right reasons and not just to make a buck, but because she really believes she has something to offer the breed. Go visit the breeder in person and don’t overlook the YTCA breeder referral for finding a breeder. Here's a link: Breeder Listing

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Cbucks2010

I called the breeder and arranged a time to go meet the puppy tomorrow. I was told they raise the puppies in their home. I'm just nervous. I want a happy, healthy, yorkie! :-)

If they are raised in a home they are not a puppymill she could be a back yard breeder though. Does she do health testing? Will you be able to see the parents? What is her health guarantee> What is her breeding philosopy is she breeding to better the breed in another words breeding for the standard.

[Lovetodream88]

My puppy actually came from a broker who got there puppies from an Amish puppy mill in that area. I had no idea about brokers until I found this site and researched some names on my pups papers. In my opinion these are things I would look for in finding a breeder they do health and genetic testing, you can go to there house, if they have an out building you can tour it, you can see the parents, the mother is not under 5 pounds, the puppies are registered AKC, they have a decent health guarantee, the breeder doesn't breed massive amounts of dogs or mixes and puppies are not taken from there mom until 12 weeks. I would also google there name and or there kennel name to see if you can find any info out about them. I know if you go and look at a puppy mill it will be hard to walk away with out a pup because you feel bad for it but think about the poor breeding dogs and that by buying that pup your helping the puppy mill stay in business and continue to abuse these poor animals.

[cindersellie]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

The governor of Pennsylvania enacted some great kennel laws, after the Oprah show did an expose on Pennsylvania puppy mills. Now Pennsylvania has some of the best laws in the country regarding kennel conditions. If a facility is licensed, chances are they are at least getting some vet care and are being treated in a humane fashion. However, you don’t need a license to sell over the internet directly to the public, and these places that sell over the internet are the worse puppy mills you can imagine. My advice is don’t look for a bargain, try to find a breeder that is breeding for the right reasons and not just to make a buck, but because she really believes she has something to offer the breed. Go visit the breeder in person and don’t overlook the YTCA breeder referral for finding a breeder. Here's a link: Breeder Listing

I agree with Nancy. I wish all states would make better laws. Ohio has a ton of puppy mills still Look around with your eyes 1st, then if all looks ok, look at the pups with your heart

[Cbucks2010]

Thank you everyone! I'm visiting tomorrow, so once I meet them, I'll be able to get a better read on the situation as to whether they are a back yard breeder or not.

[YoRkIeLoVe1980]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

The governor of Pennsylvania enacted some great kennel laws, after the Oprah show did an expose on Pennsylvania puppy mills. Now Pennsylvania has some of the best laws in the country regarding kennel conditions. If a facility is licensed, chances are they are at least getting some vet care and are being treated in a humane fashion. However, you don’t need a license to sell over the internet directly to the public, and these places that sell over the internet are the worse puppy mills you can imagine. My advice is don’t look for a bargain, try to find a breeder that is breeding for the right reasons and not just to make a buck, but because she really believes she has something to offer the breed. Go visit the breeder in person and don’t overlook the YTCA breeder referral for finding a breeder. Here's a link: Breeder Listing

Thanks for providing that link! I have been visiting the YTCA website but it keeps telling me it's under construction and I couldn't access the breeder listing. The link you provided, gave me the page to look up my state and there is a breeder local to me! I just emailed the woman, and hope to be stepping in the right direction to getting my first yorkie! Sorry...hope I didn't hijack the thread!

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by YoRkIeLoVe1980

Thanks for providing that link! I have been visiting the YTCA website but it keeps telling me it's under construction and I couldn't access the breeder listing. The link you provided, gave me the page to look up my state and there is a breeder local to me! I just emailed the woman, and hope to be stepping in the right direction to getting my first yorkie! Sorry...hope I didn't hijack the thread!

I know, they've been updating the site and the old link doesn't work anymore, I'm not thrilled with the new link, the bright red is hard on my eyes. If she doesn't email you in a few days, email her again and say you'd like to talk with her over the phone and when would be a good time to call. Or you can give her your number and a time to call. Just say you want to know more about her breeding program and most breeders will love to tell you about there program and why they are breeding. I think it's so good to develop a realationship with a breeder first and be willing to be placed on a waiting list. Let her know if you prefer a lap dog or a more active yorkie, a good breeder can tell the difference at a very young age. Many of the breeders on the list also have websites, they don't sell from their websites, but you can learn lots about their breeding programs.

[YoRkIeLoVe1980]

Thanks again! Lots of helpful tips that I wouldn't have thought of.

[lynzy420]

DO NOT PURCHASE ANY DOGS FROM PETITEPUPS OR VALLEY MEADOW, Petite pups is a puppymill and voluntarily shutdown...Valley Meadows is also a puppy mill...took their pups etc., they are scammers and neither one is currently licensed to sell ANY PUPS.

They are selling off their "stock"...trust me on this...do NOT purchase from them.

[spiritwings1202]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

DO NOT PURCHASE ANY DOGS FROM PETITEPUPS OR VALLEY MEADOW, Petite pups is a puppymill and voluntarily shutdown...Valley Meadows is also a puppy mill...took their pups etc., they are scammers and neither one is currently licensed to sell ANY PUPS.

They are selling off their "stock"...trust me on this...do NOT purchase from them.

Oh man I hope she reads this bf she goes and buys one

[lynzy420]

Bumping out of concern...hoping op comes back...and it's not too late

[Lovetodream88]

I hope this gets seen