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[TatumsMom]

I don't think we can assume that her Gracie is going to be a "tiny" just yet. Tatum was barely a pound when I got her at 9-10 weeks and she's a good sturdy 6 lbs now. I do think one as small as she is right now is very prone to hypoglycemic issues so hopefully that's all this is and once she's stronger she will continue to grow and be healthy. I just think a more definitive answer is needed regarding any other issues with the puppy before the OP makes a final decision.

[chachi]

She sounds like shes going to Be super tiny ad she appears to have the typical issues alot of tinies face

[Yorkiemom1]

I think suggestions....let me rephrase that...MY suggestions to the OP were made with the past history of sick dogs that have apparently been purchased from this particular broker, (multiple past threads about this broker) foremost in my mind. Even if the broker honors the contract and works with the OP to hopefully get a baby with issues of hypoglycemia on the right track, I feel the OP has only a week or so emotional investment in this baby, and already quite a bit of $$$$ invested....I think there are healthy puppies to be had that would not cause the emotional and financial drain this sick baby may be going to cause her. After 35+ years in this business, I do NOT advocate selling tiny babies with hypoglycemia to novice owners. If this "tiny" puppy is going to grow out of this, they usually have done so by the time they are 4 months old and weigh 3 - 3.5 lbs....a breeder that has ANY working knowledge of her babies, knows full well if a baby has an issue with hypoglycemia...that is not something that just magically pops up as soon as the baby goes to a new owner....to sell a baby knowing it has issues with hypoglycemia, (without educating the new owner on feeding methods, etc) to a novice, is unnecessary and unethical at best.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

I think suggestions....let me rephrase that...MY suggestions to the OP were made with the past history of sick dogs that have apparently been purchased from this particular broker, (multiple past threads about this broker) foremost in my mind. Even if the broker honors the contract and works with the OP to hopefully get a baby with issues of hypoglycemia on the right track, I feel the OP has only a week or so emotional investment in this baby, and already quite a bit of $$$$ invested....I think there are healthy puppies to be had that would not cause the emotional and financial drain this sick baby may be going to cause her. After 35+ years in this business, I do NOT advocate selling tiny babies with hypoglycemia to novice owners. If this "tiny" puppy is going to grow out of this, they usually have done so by the time they are 4 months old and weigh 3 - 3.5 lbs....a breeder that has ANY working knowledge of her babies, knows full well if a baby has an issue with hypoglycemia...that is not something that just magically pops up as soon as the baby goes to a new owner....to sell a baby knowing it has issues with hypoglycemia, (without educating the new owner on feeding methods, etc) to a novice, is unnecessary and unethical at best.

[Lilymo]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

I think suggestions....let me rephrase that...MY suggestions to the OP were made with the past history of sick dogs that have apparently been purchased from this particular broker, (multiple past threads about this broker) foremost in my mind. Even if the broker honors the contract and works with the OP to hopefully get a baby with issues of hypoglycemia on the right track, I feel the OP has only a week or so emotional investment in this baby, and already quite a bit of $$$$ invested....I think there are healthy puppies to be had that would not cause the emotional and financial drain this sick baby may be going to cause her. After 35+ years in this business, I do NOT advocate selling tiny babies with hypoglycemia to novice owners. If this "tiny" puppy is going to grow out of this, they usually have done so by the time they are 4 months old and weigh 3 - 3.5 lbs....a breeder that has ANY working knowledge of her babies, knows full well if a baby has an issue with hypoglycemia...that is not something that just magically pops up as soon as the baby goes to a new owner....to sell a baby knowing it has issues with hypoglycemia, (without educating the new owner on feeding methods, etc) to a novice, is unnecessary and unethical at best.

Yeah I agree but would be concerned what would happen to Gracie once returned. I think getting a second vet opinion sounds like a good option then at least if you do hand her back, you wont keep asking yourself what if in the future, you will have done so with the knowledge to make that informed choice. Goood luck to you my thoughts are with you what ever you decide is right for you all .

[katy-yorkie]

Buster and Maggie both came from Fancy Pups. When I got them I had no idea that the Rascoe's were brokers, I didn't learn about brokers until I came to YT. One of my fears about giving Buster back to the Rascoe's was that they would sell him to someone who would not be able to afford his medical expenses. He was very tiny when I got him and only eight weeks old, same thing for Maggie. I was hoping that by now the Rascoe's would have made enough money and they would retire from the business. They call themselves Christians but they know where the puppies come from and they know that their website is misleading. I have had a lot of medical issues with Buster. However, there is a Yorkie in my neighborhood that came from Fancy Pups and he has no medical issues. He too was sold very young and very small. I know this is a hard decision to make, if you do decide to let them keep Grace, I would get a refund and not purchase another puppie from them. With that being said, I love Buster and Maggie more than anything in this world. I am glad that I have had the last four years with them and I hope I have a lot more years with them. They are my life. Another thing, if you decide to keep Grace, please keep on top of any medical issues she might have in the future.

[Teegy]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

You are NOT going to like what I suggest you do. First of all, and most importantly, let me tell you my heart breaks for you and for that precious little baby. Neither one of you ever asked to be put in the position you are in at this moment. This poor little soul is not healthy....she is tooooo tiny. It takes someone with YEARS of experience to deal with the issues this tiny baby is facing, both immediately, and I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, IN THE FUTURE. This is NOT something you are going to want, nor can probably afford-emotionally as well as financially- to be saddled with. You need to explain to the breeder you are fearful you are not equipped to care for this tiny baby and you would want your money back. DO NOT GET SUCKED INTO THE HYPE OF TEACUP YORKIES!!! These tiny little souls are VERY fragile and require an enormous amount of attention, care, and caution...they can not EVER BE TREATED LIKE A "REGULAR" YORKIE because of their tiny size...they cant play, they cant run with other pets, they cant be around kids, they cant even go out on a windy day, because they will get blown around in the yard....they usually have other issues....why in the world would you want to even go there??? Find a reputable breeder FIRST. If you have to get on a waiting list before you can get a puppy, do it. TAKE YOUR TIME AND BE PATIENT. In the meantime, read everything you can get your hands on, about Yorkies...."Yorkies for Dummies" is an EXCELLENT book.....you MUST establish a relationship with a breeder that is reputable,and she will have your dog for you....it will be a healthy dog, one you can enjoy for many years.

you must listen to Yorkiemom here

[gracielove]

Originally Posted by TatumsMom

I don't think we can assume that her Gracie is going to be a "tiny" just yet. Tatum was barely a pound when I got her at 9-10 weeks and she's a good sturdy 6 lbs now. I do think one as small as she is right now is very prone to hypoglycemic issues so hopefully that's all this is and once she's stronger she will continue to grow and be healthy. I just think a more definitive answer is needed regarding any other issues with the puppy before the OP makes a final decision.

I can agree with you on that. Gracie was very small as a puppy. She did not eat very well for her first few months. She was very picky. She did make it to 4lbs around her first birthday and added almost another pound over the next several months. I really think this puppy is on the small side and was not near ready to be taken from it's mother. While it is very possible that there could be other issues the only way to discover that is to take the puppy to a reputable vet in order to get an offical diagnosis. Is this hypoglycemia alone or are ther other factors contributing to the problem? I certainly would not waste anymore money with the vet that is working for the place the puppy came from. A good vet should have had the approprate tests done by now.

[ABBY16026]

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I wish I had known about The Yorkie Forum last year!
My husband and I lost our previous Yorkie, Daisy, after 13 amazing and wonderful years. It wasn't long before we began to notice how empty our house was and how lonely we were. So, we started our search for a new baby. After what we thought was a good search, reviewing websites talking to breeders, and looking at all the satisfied Yorkie parents on Facebook accounts, we decided on FancyPups. We purchased a Yorkie from FancyPups in November of 2013. Our dear little girl, Abby is almost 7 months old. The first six months of Abby’s life have been rough, to say the least. She had extreme aggression issues, tummy problems, and displayed a high level of anxiety. We had to take her to a dog behavioral specialist due to her aggression, anxiety, and inability to connect with us. Abby did not answer to her name until she was 5 months old. Her Veterinarian bills for her tummy have been astronomical and behavioral training sessions have been numerous. As she has grown, her bite and her mouth are so far off (once her permanent teeth started coming in) that she has eating issues. So, I decided to do some further research on FancyPups. What I discovered was disgusting! I started with the signature on Abby’s registration papers, because it was not the owners of FancyPups. The person’s name on the registration revealed she was the owner of a puppy mill in Oklahoma. The reports showed deplorable conditions for 79 females, 54 males, and many, many puppies. Several complaints have been filed over the years against the puppy mill Abby came from. Our Vet said this accounts for a lot of her issues; poor digestion, poor socialization skills, and genetic deficiencies. We have owned 3 Yorkies in our lifetime and have never, ever had issues with our puppies like this. It has been a long road and very expensive to turn our baby around. We have spent upwards of $3000.00 on vet bills, dog behavior specialists, and training classes in six months. Abby is finally beginning to show some loving qualities and with continued therapy is starting to relax and calm down. We have a long way to go, but we now see a light at the end of the tunnel. FancyPups OUTRIGHT LIED to US, even when I point blank asked if Abby came from a puppy mill. FancyPups ARE BROKERS, NOT BREEDERS!!!! If this post can help educate even one person about people out there like FancyPups, we feel the time spent to write this letter was worth it!!