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Yorkiemomma78 · 04-20-2012, 02:56 PM

Im no breeder,but I certainly beleive that a puppys size can fool you

I was sent pictures of the litter (of 3) that I got Milo & Bella from the day after they were born,and they were all the same size.After that,I was sent pictures every 3 days until I could start visiting them myself (and choose my puppy) at just over 2 weeks old.They all seemed very similar in size until we skipped a weekend visit.Bella and Milo were still the same but their sibbling was now HUGE!! lol.
The day we bought Milo & Bella home (at 6 weeks old) they both weighed 1.7lbs,yet their sibbling weighed 2.7lbs! I have no idea how she grew that much so quickly (it happened in like 2 weeks!),but there was deffinately no switcheroo because there was no other litter and you could clearly see she was the same puppy (one of her back feet was white).Just genetics I suppose

concretegurl · 04-20-2012, 04:00 PM

I'm just going to call this as I see it:

A deal between one BYB to another BYB...what can be expected in these situations?

Yorkiemomma78 · 04-20-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by concretegurl

A deal between one BYB to another BYB...what can be expected in these situations?

Wait..what did I miss..Off to read the whole thread

Miranda918 · 04-20-2012, 04:28 PM

I was sent pictures as well but in every shot of the whole litter there was always 2 missing. I feel that she sold the original that I paid for upfront and gave me a different one and sent me pictures of the one she decided i should have.. I saw it earlier and didn't call her out on it. I just went with it stupidly trusting her.

Lovetodream88 · 04-20-2012, 04:51 PM

Well first off the breeder who gave you an 8 week old pup is a bad breeder because the ytca says puppies should not leave mom until 12 weeks old and all good breeders know that. I would be worried if she is letting the pups go at 8 weeks what other corners she is cutting. Did you know you could lose your female dog by breeding her? Do you have the money for emergency's like a c-section? If they mother dies do you have the ability to get up every couple of hours to hand feed the pups? Do you know the lines of these pups to make sure they don't have certain illnesses? Do you have the money to have them health tested for anything they could pass to the pups or to make sure they are healthy? Do you have a mentor to help you when whelping? How do you know your dogs are an excellent example of the breed?

Lovetodream88 · 04-20-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Miranda918

I was sent pictures as well but in every shot of the whole litter there was always 2 missing. I feel that she sold the original that I paid for upfront and gave me a different one and sent me pictures of the one she decided i should have.. I saw it earlier and didn't call her out on it. I just went with it stupidly trusting her.

Well darlin what do you expect she gave a puppy away at 5 weeks and yours at 8 weeks this is not a good breeder and I am guessing you didn't do research before hand.

Yorkiemomma78 · 04-20-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Miranda918

I was sent pictures as well but in every shot of the whole litter there was always 2 missing. I feel that she sold the original that I paid for upfront and gave me a different one and sent me pictures of the one she decided i should have.. I saw it earlier and didn't call her out on it. I just went with it stupidly trusting her.

Where on earth do you find these breeders?

Lovetodream88 · 04-20-2012, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemomma78

Where on earth do you find these breeders?

Its very easy in America its harder to find the good breeders.

gracielove · 04-20-2012, 05:37 PM

Anyone who would sell, trade or in any way take 5 week old puppies away from their mother is capable of any sort of underhanded behavior. This greeder is nothing but a fortune hunter that is more concerned about her pocketbook than the animals that are setting her table. Is her name De Ville?

Miranda918 · 04-20-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Well first off the breeder who gave you an 8 week old pup is a bad breeder because the ytca says puppies should not leave mom until 12 weeks old and all good breeders know that. I would be worried if she is letting the pups go at 8 weeks what other corners she is cutting. Did you know you could lose your female dog by breeding her? Do you have the money for emergency's like a c-section? If they mother dies do you have the ability to get up every couple of hours to hand feed the pups? Do you know the lines of these pups to make sure they don't have certain illnesses? Do you have the money to have them health tested for anything they could pass to the pups or to make sure they are healthy? Do you have a mentor to help you when whelping? How do you know your dogs are an excellent example of the breed?

I'm not going to breed them if the male is too big. That's why I'm upset at how big he is going to be. The female I have is in excellent health and she is a sweetheart. She would make a great mother of a litter or two. She is a great dog and show quality at that. I am not sure if you are asking me those questions but yes to all. I have the time and the money to do all the above, thanks for your concern on my financial behalf and responsibility.

The breeder put on a great act, with a very detailed website and paperwork. I trusted her. Her female and male dogs live in a nice home, not a kennel. She welcomed us in her home. She put on a good show. I found out after i received the little guy that the other two were sold at 5 weeks when I started asking about them. I felt something was fishy, but I let it pass with trust.

Miranda918 · 04-20-2012, 05:42 PM

Her reasoning for not posting the pics of the two were because she was going to keep two females (then). Then it turned into the males(today). It was planned the whole time. She said she will take back the one she sold me and when another litter comes I can choose. I just don't know if I can trust her or if I want to go through it all again. I like the little guy I have now, but I want a litter or two from my first love.

KazzyK810 · 04-20-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Miranda918

Her reasoning for not posting the pics of the two were because she was going to keep two females (then). Then it turned into the males(today). It was planned the whole time. She said she will take back the one she sold me and when another litter comes I can choose. I just don't know if I can trust her or if I want to go through it all again. I like the little guy I have now, but I want a litter or two from my first love.

I'm confused. What does this mean?

Lovetodream88 · 04-20-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Miranda918

Her reasoning for not posting the pics of the two were because she was going to keep two females (then). Then it turned into the males(today). It was planned the whole time. She said she will take back the one she sold me and when another litter comes I can choose. I just don't know if I can trust her or if I want to go through it all again. I like the little guy I have now, but I want a litter or two from my first love.

I would run very far away from this breeder. What if your first love dies?

Miranda918 · 04-20-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

I would run very far away from this breeder. What if your first love dies?

Won't happen, there won't be any breeding if the male is too big.

lynzy420 · 04-20-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by concretegurl

I'm just going to call this as I see it:

A deal between one BYB to another BYB...what can be expected in these situations?

I was starting to think I was the only one who saw this.

04-20-2012, 02:56 PM	#16
Yorkiemomma78 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 125	Im no breeder,but I certainly beleive that a puppys size can fool you I was sent pictures of the litter (of 3) that I got Milo & Bella from the day after they were born,and they were all the same size.After that,I was sent pictures every 3 days until I could start visiting them myself (and choose my puppy) at just over 2 weeks old.They all seemed very similar in size until we skipped a weekend visit.Bella and Milo were still the same but their sibbling was now HUGE!! lol. The day we bought Milo & Bella home (at 6 weeks old) they both weighed 1.7lbs,yet their sibbling weighed 2.7lbs! I have no idea how she grew that much so quickly (it happened in like 2 weeks!),but there was deffinately no switcheroo because there was no other litter and you could clearly see she was the same puppy (one of her back feet was white).Just genetics I suppose __________________ Gina,Mommy to Milo & Bella Forever missing Jess Chicco & Lady RIP my babies

04-20-2012, 04:00 PM	#17
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	I'm just going to call this as I see it: A deal between one BYB to another BYB...what can be expected in these situations? __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

04-20-2012, 04:51 PM	#20
Lovetodream88 Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md Posts: 23,248	Well first off the breeder who gave you an 8 week old pup is a bad breeder because the ytca says puppies should not leave mom until 12 weeks old and all good breeders know that. I would be worried if she is letting the pups go at 8 weeks what other corners she is cutting. Did you know you could lose your female dog by breeding her? Do you have the money for emergency's like a c-section? If they mother dies do you have the ability to get up every couple of hours to hand feed the pups? Do you know the lines of these pups to make sure they don't have certain illnesses? Do you have the money to have them health tested for anything they could pass to the pups or to make sure they are healthy? Do you have a mentor to help you when whelping? How do you know your dogs are an excellent example of the breed? __________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart!

04-20-2012, 04:28 PM	#19
Miranda918 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 14	I was sent pictures as well but in every shot of the whole litter there was always 2 missing. I feel that she sold the original that I paid for upfront and gave me a different one and sent me pictures of the one she decided i should have.. I saw it earlier and didn't call her out on it. I just went with it stupidly trusting her.

04-20-2012, 05:37 PM	#24
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	Anyone who would sell, trade or in any way take 5 week old puppies away from their mother is capable of any sort of underhanded behavior. This greeder is nothing but a fortune hunter that is more concerned about her pocketbook than the animals that are setting her table. Is her name De Ville?

04-20-2012, 05:42 PM	#26
Miranda918 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 14	Her reasoning for not posting the pics of the two were because she was going to keep two females (then). Then it turned into the males(today). It was planned the whole time. She said she will take back the one she sold me and when another litter comes I can choose. I just don't know if I can trust her or if I want to go through it all again. I like the little guy I have now, but I want a litter or two from my first love.