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Old 08-25-2011, 05:00 PM   #16
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I have a yorkiepoo and I have to say as much as I love him the whole "hybrid vigor" tthing is a lie. They are not necessarily more healthy or less prone to problems. My guy has food allergies, luxating patella, and a bit of dry eye. His coat is soft but wavy wich makes growing it out at all ridiculus, I have to shave him every month or he starts to look a mess. I keep both my yorkie and my yorkiepoo in teddy bear puppy cuts but the yorkie is easier to maintian I think, and I dont have to worry so much if I'm a little over due on grooming. Of course I would reccomend adopting if your getting a hybrid, at least then you'll know what the coat will look like and any medical issues. Good luck!
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Yorkie ( I have a hybrid Schnorkie) I don't like poodles or their traits so pure Yorkie IMO
Also from another breeder the one you are looking at has major red flagS
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I would defin stick with a purebred and I would avoid any breeder that's breeding them mixed on purpose because most likely they are in it for the money doing "designer" dogs and not in it for the beterment of the yorkshire breed.
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As far as adopting goes, that was the first place I looked, I did find a beautiful 6-8 year old yorkie in a shelter that I posted a thread about a couple months ago, but she was adopted soon after, I have no problem with adopting from a shelter, but being out in the boondocks, its kind of hard to find a certain breed. And I have noticed that some of the shelters or rescues are quite expensive to adopt from. I found a yorkie on petfinder that the adoption fee was around $400... I know it may sound silly put if I'm going to pay that much, I'd rather get a puppy. Anyway, thanks everyone for your advice, I'll probably go with the pure bread, since I've already seen her and held her and fell in love with her. I'm just a little worried about the coat. And thanks for posting pictures, they are all so adorable!

The fist picture is of the pure breads at about 7 weeks? She'll be 8.5 weeks when I get her. She had a little white star on her chest, which I think I read had something to do with what her coat will be like? And the second picture is of the yorkie poos. And I dont want you to get the wrong idea of the breeders. They are really good with their puppies, even if they do mix breeding, which I know is frowned upon by a lot of people. But I love muts, we adopted a Sheltie/Pomeranian from a shelter, I couldn't ask for a better dog. And If i could find a yorkie or yorkie mix that I liked I would adopt it too...I would actually rather adopt one.
8.5 weeks is WAY too young to bring home a new puppy. They need to be 12-14 weeks old before they leave their mother and litter. Any breeder selling pups younger is a greedy person and breeding for money. AVOID them. Also if you can't afford to pay $400 for a fully vetted shelter dog and think that you'd rather get a puppy for under $400 you are in for a heap of trouble. from experience 400 dollar puppy at 8 weeks old (my sadie was both of these when i got her) will get you a biting, misbehaving, sick, extremely screwed up excuse for a yorkie...you will most likely face health issues and behavior issues for the rest of that dog's life. i'm talking 2000 surgeries and hundreds on dog training.

not worth it. my rescue pup was $350.00 fully vetted with all his shots, neuter, everything was done already. saved me the tons of money doing it all myself and he's the most healthy, happy, and wonderful dog ever. he's now a registered therapy dog with Delta society and the love of my life.
not that i don't love Sadie, but it's not worth it to get a cheap pup from a crappy breeder selling pups that young and selling mixed breeds.
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I'm sorry I may of had my dates messed up. They may have been born in June and she said she would probably let them go the first weekend in September. She also said she has been known to call people that has reserved them and tell them they aren't ready yet and they'll have to wait. And I'll say it again I have nothing against adopting from a shelter it's the first place I looked, but there aren't any around here And the one that is, I think is too expensive for an older dog, if I'm going to pay that much I'd rather have a puppy. I guess that's just my opinion though. I love shelter dogs my little Hank is awesome, so nothing against them.

If the puppies were born in July and not June should I ask her too keep the puppy with the mother a little longer?
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she sounds soo much like the breeder i got sadie from. they were horrible no matter how good they made themselves seem. please don't buy from these people. please consider waiting until a better breeder or a better rescue pup comes along. it's worth the wait and worth the extra money to get a dog from a good breeder or a puppy from a shelter ready to go.
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I'm sorry I may of had my dates messed up. They may have been born in June and she said she would probably let them go the first weekend in September. She also said she has been known to call people that has reserved them and tell them they aren't ready yet and they'll have to wait. And I'll say it again I have nothing against adopting from a shelter it's the first place I looked, but there aren't any around here And the one that is, I think is too expensive for an older dog, if I'm going to pay that much I'd rather have a puppy. I guess that's just my opinion though. I love shelter dogs my little Hank is awesome, so nothing against them.

If the puppies were born in July and not June should I ask her too keep the puppy with the mother a little longer?
Even if the puppies were born on July first and were let go the first weekend in September its only 9 weeks old. Thats is way to young for a puppy. Asking for the breeder too keep it longer won't guarentee against defects and health issues, it will help with some behavior issues that will come with getting a pup so young. This breeder does not sound ethical. Any breeder who breeds mixed dogs are not in it for the betterment of the breed because a Yorkie Poo is not a breed its to be blunt a mutt. If you are set on a yorkie then go to YTCA.org and find a breeder with in a couple hours of you. A lot of breeders will meet you halfway. There are a lot of breeders on here that can help you find a reputable breeder near you.
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Even if the puppies were born on July first and were let go the first weekend in September its only 9 weeks old. Thats is way to young for a puppy. Asking for the breeder too keep it longer won't guarentee against defects and health issues, it will help with some behavior issues that will come with getting a pup so young. This breeder does not sound ethical. Any breeder who breeds mixed dogs are not in it for the betterment of the breed because a Yorkie Poo is not a breed its to be blunt a mutt. If you are set on a yorkie then go to YTCA.org and find a breeder with in a couple hours of you. A lot of breeders will meet you halfway. There are a lot of breeders on here that can help you find a reputable breeder near you.
Why is it because they do mix breeds does this automatically make them a bad breeder? I'm not trying to start an argument I just want to know why.. I mean all breeds if dogs had to come from some where so what's wrong with trying to start a new one?
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In a way you're right. But, if you choose to go with a "new breed" you have to put in more leg work. You have to know why the breeder is creating a new breed. What are they hoping to achieve? What characteristics are they trying to bring out? For what reasons? How many generations of yorkiepoos would this be? (as in how many generations away from the original yorkie and poodle will this litter be?) What Heath gets have they done? (it should probably be twice as many as a purebred because they have to look out for the health problems yorkies face and the ones poodles do as well) How close are they keeping records? When trying to establish a new breed, records are extremely important. I know some will argue that it's not true, because no one kept records of where the yorkies cane from. There are records, and if there aren't any, we know better now.

Honestly, if the breeder is going back and using purebreds for every litter of mixes they produce, they are only producing puppies for the sake of producing them. How is that any better than a puppymill? A puppymill, byb, or whatever produces puppies for the sake of producing puppies. Yes they are cute, but there are also other cute dog's in the shelter that were produced by puppymills and byb. It's not the dog's fault that they are no longer a puppy, and are undesirable to most people.
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I would not buy a mixed breed dog from a breeder. Nor would I buy a pure bred dog from a breeder who also bred mixed breeds. The norm of breeders is to be like this breeder. they seem like nice people, but in reality they are in it for the money. Granted, they may not be a puppymill, or having their dogs live in filth, but the fact that they breed purely for profit raises a big red flag for me. The younger they let them go, the more profit they make.

It is very hard to find a truly reputable breeder. Like finding a needle in a haystack.
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Thank you, however, I don't believe they are a puppy mill, I don't believe that they are in it purely for profit. I really don't think they woke up one morning and said "lets raise hybrid puppies to make a lot of money." Here is a quote from their website. I know I can't change your mind about them, because they do breed muts as well as pure breads, but I don't think they are bad people or they are a "puppy mill"

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**** O*** Kennels was establishied in 2005 after moving to a 32 acre farm here in Kentucky. We love this beautiful county life and will not ever move back to the cold weather of Northern Il. ! Nothing beats the farm life for sure. The farm has a few pleasure horses for trail riding. We also have a large flock of laying hens, fresh eggs each morning! Plenty of room for the kids to ride ATV's and fish in the ponds.

We take pride in the farm and in our kennel. It's a lot of work and very long hours, but it's what we love and it's the kind of life we want for our family.

We are dedicated to raising healthy and sound (physically and temperamentally) puppies.

Our dogs live in air-conditioned / heated buildings with all ground runs. All of our dogs are micro-chipped, AKC,UKC or APR registered, vet-checked regularly, and groomed regularly. We adhere to a schedule of breeding based on the health of the parents, not our pocketbooks.

We get to know each puppy, and want to match that puppy with the very best family for it. It's important to us that the puppy has a great new family.
Anyway. I've been doing a little research and most things that I read, is a puppy should not be taken away from its mother and litter mates until 8 weeks, for socialization skills. My puppy if I do get her will be two days shy of 9 weeks or a few days shy of 13 weeks depending on if it was born in June or July, I can't remember. If I do get this puppy and it is almost 9 weeks, what kind of problems can this cause? Every one just says its bad, and doesn't say why. I'm not here to argue or anything, I'm just trying to learn. I really appreciate everyone taking time to read this and reply.
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I have a yorkiepoo and I have to say as much as I love him the whole "hybrid vigor" tthing is a lie. They are not necessarily more healthy or less prone to problems. My guy has food allergies, luxating patella, and a bit of dry eye. His coat is soft but wavy wich makes growing it out at all ridiculus, I have to shave him every month or he starts to look a mess. I keep both my yorkie and my yorkiepoo in teddy bear puppy cuts but the yorkie is easier to maintian I think, and I dont have to worry so much if I'm a little over due on grooming. Of course I would reccomend adopting if your getting a hybrid, at least then you'll know what the coat will look like and any medical issues. Good luck!

Tucker has the same type of coat, I HAVE to have him groomed every 4 to 6 weeks or he looks dirty and mangly..lol..He also has allergies but his are more enviromental (i think, trying different foods didnt help much) so he is on medicines to help him. He is the first mix Ive owned in awhile and other than my elder sheltie he has had alot of issues. I love him to dealth,he is very loyal and dedicated to me and I would definitly own another one, I would go to a shelter first. good luck!!
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As far as any dog mixed with a poodle - you are going to have grooming problems for sure. The pictures of yorkie/poodle's I have seen have had very kinky fur, but not as curly as a poodle. Poodles have to be professionally groomed every 4 to 6 weeks unless you know how to do it yourself. I don't mind combing my baby's fur everyday but I would not want to have to deal with a curly or kinky fur on a daily basis. Just too much work. Sure they may be cute as a puppy but it's the adult that you are going to have to live with and groom properly.
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I also would go with a purebred yorkie if you want to know what they will most likely look like. The adoption of a yorkiepoo is also a good idea. The puppy cut is a very easy cut to maintain. Here is our Sophie in hers.
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Do they DNA their breeding stock?
Is their breeding stock OFA and CHIC registered?
Is their breeding sock used for show ?
AKfC registered?
Pups sold on open or pet registration (full or limited)?
Genetic testing d one to ensure health of pups produced?
What age range are the dogs they breed?
At what frequency are their dog bred?
Age pups are released?
Health guarantee: re-homing returning sales contract?

I'm assuming you got adequate answers to all of this prior to deciding if they were good breeders or not right?
You've viewer their home/kennel already, seen parents?
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