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luv4yorkies · 11-01-2005, 12:11 PM

I spoke with a breeder who was very nice. I asked her if her dogs/ pups were registered she told me that all of her dogs were AKC and CKC registered but she now registers her litters in only CKC because people were wanting to buy a dog would say i want show quality but never had any intention on showing. So now she just registers the litters in CKc instead of both. but all the parents are AKC. Does this sound okay?

toninm · 11-01-2005, 12:15 PM

i dont know Dollar is ACA and I have no idea what that is?

happygolucky · 11-01-2005, 12:22 PM

Here is the link:

http://www.acavet.com/

Hope this helps!

YorkieShadow · 11-01-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by luv4yorkies

I spoke with a breeder who was very nice. I asked her if her dogs/ pups were registered she told me that all of her dogs were AKC and CKC registered but she now registers her litters in only CKC because people were wanting to buy a dog would say i want show quality but never had any intention on showing. So now she just registers the litters in CKc instead of both. but all the parents are AKC. Does this sound okay?

I dont know why but I know a few people that just go with The CKC . When I ask why they say its cheaper?

Julz · 11-01-2005, 01:27 PM

That is what some have said to me also "It's cheaper". However, it isn't a lot to register with AKC. You only run into bigger money if the dog is over 6 months old and hasn't been registered as an individual.

Sugar's Mom · 11-01-2005, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by luv4yorkies

I spoke with a breeder who was very nice. I asked her if her dogs/ pups were registered she told me that all of her dogs were AKC and CKC registered but she now registers her litters in only CKC because people were wanting to buy a dog would say i want show quality but never had any intention on showing. So now she just registers the litters in CKc instead of both. but all the parents are AKC. Does this sound okay?

If both parents are registered AKC, you can register your pup AKC, even if she has a CKC paper.

Erin · 11-01-2005, 01:59 PM

It was $15 for Loki's AKC registration. AKC's "limited" registration is meant for dogs who will be pets, not show dogs and they can't be bred. That's why it's limited. What she said doesn't make any sense to me.

topknot · 11-01-2005, 02:05 PM

Before I begin - I am not talking about the Canadian CKC registration, but Continental Kennel Club (CKC). If she has one that is AKC and another CKC and she breeds them - the litter can only be registered with CKC and that is after she registers the one that is AKC to CKC. This will make both CKC with one having a dual registration. I could be wrong, but what I know is that AKC will not easily or at all register a CKC dog/litter to get them registered AKC.

And if she wanted to show her dogs why would she register them with CKC (continental KC) since theyare not into showing/confirmation yet. It doesn't make sense. All mine are AKC.

T.

yorkiemom1970 · 11-01-2005, 02:06 PM

i think it's a personal preference who she chooses to register with. akc is number one but should not exclude a yorkie from being considered any less of a yorkie if not registered with them. i would check to see if she has been suspended from akc and if not, i don't see a problem if her babies are healthy and raised in great environment.

yorkiemom1970 · 11-01-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

If both parents are registered AKC, you can register your pup AKC, even if she has a CKC paper.

that is correct. it would take a simple phone call to akc even if she is offering pup with a ckc reg as long as both parents are akc.

luv4yorkies · 11-01-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by topknot

Before I begin - I am not talking about the Canadian CKC registration, but Continental Kennel Club (CKC). If she has one that is AKC and another CKC and she breeds them - the litter can only be registered with CKC and that is after she registers the one that is AKC to CKC. This will make both CKC with one having a dual registration. I could be wrong, but what I know is that AKC will not easily or at all register a CKC dog/litter to get them registered AKC.

And if she wanted to show her dogs why would she register them with CKC (continental KC) since theyare not into showing/confirmation yet. It doesn't make sense. All mine are AKC.

T.

She does not want to show her dogs. they are AKC registered. she said that she registered her past litters with AKC but buyers were wanting a show puppy but did not have any intention on showing the pup therefore she NOW just registers her litters with CKC.

yorkiemom1970 · 11-01-2005, 05:07 PM

i'm a little confused. her buyers wanted a show puppy but didnt have any intentions to show. maybe i read it wrong. maybe they were wanting a breed quality but do not show? i can relate to that. i may be way off here, but i dont know the breeder you're speaking of so i cant say .

YorkieRose · 11-01-2005, 05:18 PM

Plain and simple..CKC does not make a breeder answer to anything. You do not have to keep records, DNA males, no permenent ID such as a chip or tatoo, never have to under go an inspection of records and dogs, parents need not be purebred for breeding and registering of litters.

Now I am on my soap box for a minute...
I read the other day in several commerical breeder forums that AKC is courting the commerical breeders to return AKC..they are holding seminars to invite breeders back. I am not a fan of the AKC because I have seen them say one thing and do another for years. It is all about the dollar and they have lost millions because most commerical breeders have left AKC for CKC and APRI.
AKC thinks the show and hobby breeders will not find these things out and it makes me mad..having sadi that, AKC is still the only registry I will use, even with it flaaws, I think they are the only way to go.....BUT they are certainly getting a letter from me about this new stuff going on.

luv4yorkies · 11-01-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970

i'm a little confused. her buyers wanted a show puppy but didnt have any intentions to show. maybe i read it wrong. maybe they were wanting a breed quality but do not show? i can relate to that. i may be way off here, but i dont know the breeder you're speaking of so i cant say .

Yep you read right some wanted a show pup for pet only.

yorkiemom1970 · 11-01-2005, 05:49 PM

pat you said a mouth ful. i can relate to your post very well. i am very very interested in biewers and i know i cant reg them with akc at this time if i aquire one or two lovely babies. i am going to need lots of info on the reg with the biewers as i do more research. akc has become so very political that it makes my ears hot. ckc in my opinion is a registry that is for those who aren 't into showing. (conformation) hobby breeders only. i have no problem with that. i am also a member and have no complaints. and i am the first to admit that millers have taken advantage of what could be a good registry. akc has been wonderful to me, as i have been affiliated with them for 10 yrs now. i have nothing bad to say against them just like the ckc. with all the new things out there that i for one am interested in and the akc will not acknowledge, i can understand going a diff route. (i'm not talking about mixes) i am talking about golds, chocs, biewers, ect ect. there is a registry for these wonderful colors but akc doesnt participate.( i think they do reg parti color?) ?? i'm an open minded person. my mother always said it would be my down fall, but i beg to differ. yes, i am very open minded and i say to each their own. yes ckc is cheaper than akc to reg with. known fact. but if they were the only reg out there i wouldnt be posting this thread. the ckc was a day late and a dollar short. akc has and always will rule in the show world. my step dad has beautiful, standard, healthy boxers that live in his home that he is preparing for a ckc weight pull show. i am going to be there with bells on. i guess it goes back to some of my other posts where i have tended to lean towards the norm. sometimes i wish i would just grow some balls. pat , i hope you know i love and respect your years of knowledge and your advice. i'd love to live near you and take in all your knowledge and know you. i guess i just understand that diff breeds, breeders, are going to need diff registries for whatever reason. i just dont look down on the individual dog because of that. i have heard so many times in posts and reading on web sites that ckc isnt worth the paper they are written on. i would hate to think that was being said about my puppy if i were a buyer seeking one puppy for a pet that came from a reputible breeder who was reg with ckc and had his or her pups in better conditions than any paticular akc breeeder who may have not been doing as good of a job as the other breeder

no controversy intended. just my opinion.

11-01-2005, 12:11 PM	#1
luv4yorkies YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,611	? about registration I spoke with a breeder who was very nice. I asked her if her dogs/ pups were registered she told me that all of her dogs were AKC and CKC registered but she now registers her litters in only CKC because people were wanting to buy a dog would say i want show quality but never had any intention on showing. So now she just registers the litters in CKc instead of both. but all the parents are AKC. Does this sound okay?

11-01-2005, 12:15 PM	#2
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11-01-2005, 01:59 PM	#7
Erin Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 3,306	It was $15 for Loki's AKC registration. AKC's "limited" registration is meant for dogs who will be pets, not show dogs and they can't be bred. That's why it's limited. What she said doesn't make any sense to me. __________________ Erin, Sammy & Loki Sewing patterns and tutorials @ www.dogundermydesk.com

11-01-2005, 01:27 PM	#5
Julz Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 4,347	That is what some have said to me also "It's cheaper". However, it isn't a lot to register with AKC. You only run into bigger money if the dog is over 6 months old and hasn't been registered as an individual.

11-01-2005, 02:05 PM	#8
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	Before I begin - I am not talking about the Canadian CKC registration, but Continental Kennel Club (CKC). If she has one that is AKC and another CKC and she breeds them - the litter can only be registered with CKC and that is after she registers the one that is AKC to CKC. This will make both CKC with one having a dual registration. I could be wrong, but what I know is that AKC will not easily or at all register a CKC dog/litter to get them registered AKC. And if she wanted to show her dogs why would she register them with CKC (continental KC) since theyare not into showing/confirmation yet. It doesn't make sense. All mine are AKC. T.

11-01-2005, 02:06 PM	#9
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	i think it's a personal preference who she chooses to register with. akc is number one but should not exclude a yorkie from being considered any less of a yorkie if not registered with them. i would check to see if she has been suspended from akc and if not, i don't see a problem if her babies are healthy and raised in great environment.

11-01-2005, 05:07 PM	#12
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	i'm a little confused. her buyers wanted a show puppy but didnt have any intentions to show. maybe i read it wrong. maybe they were wanting a breed quality but do not show? i can relate to that. i may be way off here, but i dont know the breeder you're speaking of so i cant say .

11-01-2005, 05:18 PM	#13
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	Plain and simple..CKC does not make a breeder answer to anything. You do not have to keep records, DNA males, no permenent ID such as a chip or tatoo, never have to under go an inspection of records and dogs, parents need not be purebred for breeding and registering of litters. Now I am on my soap box for a minute... I read the other day in several commerical breeder forums that AKC is courting the commerical breeders to return AKC..they are holding seminars to invite breeders back. I am not a fan of the AKC because I have seen them say one thing and do another for years. It is all about the dollar and they have lost millions because most commerical breeders have left AKC for CKC and APRI. AKC thinks the show and hobby breeders will not find these things out and it makes me mad..having sadi that, AKC is still the only registry I will use, even with it flaaws, I think they are the only way to go.....BUT they are certainly getting a letter from me about this new stuff going on.

11-01-2005, 05:49 PM	#15
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	pat you said a mouth ful. i can relate to your post very well. i am very very interested in biewers and i know i cant reg them with akc at this time if i aquire one or two lovely babies. i am going to need lots of info on the reg with the biewers as i do more research. akc has become so very political that it makes my ears hot. ckc in my opinion is a registry that is for those who aren 't into showing. (conformation) hobby breeders only. i have no problem with that. i am also a member and have no complaints. and i am the first to admit that millers have taken advantage of what could be a good registry. akc has been wonderful to me, as i have been affiliated with them for 10 yrs now. i have nothing bad to say against them just like the ckc. with all the new things out there that i for one am interested in and the akc will not acknowledge, i can understand going a diff route. (i'm not talking about mixes) i am talking about golds, chocs, biewers, ect ect. there is a registry for these wonderful colors but akc doesnt participate.( i think they do reg parti color?) ?? i'm an open minded person. my mother always said it would be my down fall, but i beg to differ. yes, i am very open minded and i say to each their own. yes ckc is cheaper than akc to reg with. known fact. but if they were the only reg out there i wouldnt be posting this thread. the ckc was a day late and a dollar short. akc has and always will rule in the show world. my step dad has beautiful, standard, healthy boxers that live in his home that he is preparing for a ckc weight pull show. i am going to be there with bells on. i guess it goes back to some of my other posts where i have tended to lean towards the norm. sometimes i wish i would just grow some balls. pat , i hope you know i love and respect your years of knowledge and your advice. i'd love to live near you and take in all your knowledge and know you. i guess i just understand that diff breeds, breeders, are going to need diff registries for whatever reason. i just dont look down on the individual dog because of that. i have heard so many times in posts and reading on web sites that ckc isnt worth the paper they are written on. i would hate to think that was being said about my puppy if i were a buyer seeking one puppy for a pet that came from a reputible breeder who was reg with ckc and had his or her pups in better conditions than any paticular akc breeeder who may have not been doing as good of a job as the other breeder no controversy intended. just my opinion.