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chattiesmom · 08-14-2010, 01:01 PM

I don't usually get riled up, but my blood is B O I L I N G

!

So what is worse than the well known "I'm a Missionary and I want to GIVE you a Yorkie free of charge, just pay shipping charges of $300.00 scam? A real live honest? to goodness Youth Minister who uses his "work" email complete with church information to inquire about a yorkie pup. It was bad enough that he determined it may be to his advantage to advertise that he was a minister, but what really infuriated me was the following statement taken from the email "What a blessing it would be if it could be freely given, but none the less if there is a cost, I'd like to know it so I can assess if this would be a good investment or not."

Unfortunately it was the real deal - I looked the church up on internet prior to responding - and when I did I copied several of the church officials. I would not have been very offended if it had been some nutcase (had one of them earlier in the week) with a sob story begging for a freebie, but how dare a man who claims to be a "Man of God" using his position to try to gain something for nothing.

I may be over-reacting and if so, then so be it. I take my God and my religion very seriously and it infuriates me to no end for someone to use his poisiton as a Minister as a barganing tool.

--end of vent

peachbongi · 08-14-2010, 01:33 PM

This is very sad!
Worth his investment?? Really??

Why is everyone looking for a handout? Gone are the days when people had more pride in working hard for something. Now people brag about what they get for free. Don't get me wrong I like a good bargain as well as the next person, but to stoop to that is just wrong.

Religion is getting such a bad wrap because of people like this.

Rhetts_mama · 08-14-2010, 01:46 PM

Since when is a pet an "investment"? I've never checked out a rate of return on any of my furbutts. That statement alone would make me think twice about selling a dog to him, since it seems to speak to the intention of breeding.

BabyGirl Rosie · 08-14-2010, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chattiesmom

I don't usually get riled up, but my blood is B O I L I N G

!

So what is worse than the well known "I'm a Missionary and I want to GIVE you a Yorkie free of charge, just pay shipping charges of $300.00 scam? A real live honest? to goodness Youth Minister who uses his "work" email complete with church information to inquire about a yorkie pup. It was bad enough that he determined it may be to his advantage to advertise that he was a minister, but what really infuriated me was the following statement taken from the email "What a blessing it would be if it could be freely given, but none the less if there is a cost, I'd like to know it so I can assess if this would be a good investment or not."

Unfortunately it was the real deal - I looked the church up on internet prior to responding - and when I did I copied several of the church officials. I would not have been very offended if it had been some nutcase (had one of them earlier in the week) with a sob story begging for a freebie, but how dare a man who claims to be a "Man of God" using his position to try to gain something for nothing.

I may be over-reacting and if so, then so be it. I take my God and my religion very seriously and it infuriates me to no end for someone to use his poisiton as a Minister as a barganing tool.

--end of vent

Wow, this is bad. I can see why your blood is boiling. I don't think you are over reacting at all. I agree with you. I take God and religion very seriously too. And you are right, people think they can trust them because of their position as a minister. This is really sad. However, the one thing that always gets me through the bad people times is this:

One day he will stand before our God that we take seriously and he WILL answer for everything he has done as we all will.

Our world has turned to bad things and yes religion is given a bad rap. But there are still good people in this world. So you go girl! Let your blood boil and stand up for what you believe. It is ok to vent!

JMuedog · 08-14-2010, 02:21 PM

Wow, that is terrible! Investment.... definitely not a word I'd use to describe a member of my family.

I don't know what kind of minister he considers himself, but I hope he seeks help... as it sounds like he needs some redirection in life.

107barney · 08-14-2010, 03:38 PM

Infuriating, for sure. I am glad you notified the church - too bad you could not directly notify all the members of the congregation so they THEY (the congregation) could determine if the investment they were making in this clown (the Minister) and the church that employs this guy was worthwhile. Sounds like the investment in this minister may be worse than a penny stock gone bad.

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jltwigg10 · 08-14-2010, 03:50 PM

I had a friend who was ripped off by someone claiming to be a minister.
I was raised in church and this makes me very angry that there are people who will do this. I would be afraid to use God's name in vain like that.

Lizzie07 · 08-14-2010, 03:54 PM

I'm glad you told him honestly what you thought and copied some of the other church officials. That was a slimy thing for the minister to do.

TakeAChance · 08-14-2010, 04:04 PM

That really is infuriating. I sincerely hope he faces some sort of punishment for essentially trying to use his position in the church for his own financial gain.

tjdmom · 08-14-2010, 04:06 PM

That really stinks. I can't even believe the nerve of some people!

chattiesmom · 08-14-2010, 04:18 PM

Thank you, everyone for being so supportive. I am tempted to visit a new church tomorrow -- however, I don't want to be vindictive. I tried to be very professional in my replies to his emails and I did copy the church officials on all of my communications -- even though he didn't.

I know that we all must answer for our deeds, and I am not one to judge -- the "Judge not lest ye be judged" scares me to death

I know that I have enough to answer to without that one.

Mitzis Mom · 08-14-2010, 05:23 PM

I can understand your anger...

lil fu fu girl · 08-14-2010, 06:57 PM

Once upon a time, on a planet called Earth, men of religion use to be honest, humble, and dedicated to the betterment of society. Those days are long gone.

I personally, am a very spiritual person and was once told that in order to "get to heaven" I would have to restore my faith in God.
I told this "religious" person that I had never lost my faith in God, however, I have lost all faith in humanity. No one is immune to corruption anymore, even those we consider "Holy".

I would definitely notify the church about this behavior.

BabyGirl Rosie · 08-14-2010, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lil fu fu girl

Once upon a time, on a planet called Earth, men of religion use to be honest, humble, and dedicated to the betterment of society. Those days are long gone.

I personally, am a very spiritual person and was once told that in order to "get to heaven" I would have to restore my faith in God.
I told this "religious" person that I had never lost my faith in God, however, I have lost all faith in humanity. No one is immune to corruption anymore, even those we consider "Holy".

I would definitely notify the church about this behavior.

This could not have been said in a better way. I agree with you!

Maximo · 08-14-2010, 07:04 PM

Shameful.

08-14-2010, 01:01 PM	#1
chattiesmom Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 17,674	Worse than the well-known Missionary Scam - I don't usually get riled up, but my blood is B O I L I N G ! So what is worse than the well known "I'm a Missionary and I want to GIVE you a Yorkie free of charge, just pay shipping charges of $300.00 scam? A real live honest? to goodness Youth Minister who uses his "work" email complete with church information to inquire about a yorkie pup. It was bad enough that he determined it may be to his advantage to advertise that he was a minister, but what really infuriated me was the following statement taken from the email "What a blessing it would be if it could be freely given, but none the less if there is a cost, I'd like to know it so I can assess if this would be a good investment or not." Unfortunately it was the real deal - I looked the church up on internet prior to responding - and when I did I copied several of the church officials. I would not have been very offended if it had been some nutcase (had one of them earlier in the week) with a sob story begging for a freebie, but how dare a man who claims to be a "Man of God" using his position to try to gain something for nothing. I may be over-reacting and if so, then so be it. I take my God and my religion very seriously and it infuriates me to no end for someone to use his poisiton as a Minister as a barganing tool. --end of vent __________________ Silk Step-In Harnesses www.foxypups.etsy.com Last edited by chattiesmom; 08-14-2010 at 01:06 PM.

08-14-2010, 01:33 PM	#2
peachbongi Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,926	This is very sad! Worth his investment?? Really?? Why is everyone looking for a handout? Gone are the days when people had more pride in working hard for something. Now people brag about what they get for free. Don't get me wrong I like a good bargain as well as the next person, but to stoop to that is just wrong. Religion is getting such a bad wrap because of people like this. __________________ Handmade Sweaters The Princess Paw on FB Fergie & Tink

08-14-2010, 01:46 PM	#3
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	Since when is a pet an "investment"? I've never checked out a rate of return on any of my furbutts. That statement alone would make me think twice about selling a dog to him, since it seems to speak to the intention of breeding. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny.

08-14-2010, 02:21 PM	#5
JMuedog Love My Little Cuties Donating Member Administrator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charleston, IL Posts: 9,899	Wow, that is terrible! Investment.... definitely not a word I'd use to describe a member of my family. I don't know what kind of minister he considers himself, but I hope he seeks help... as it sounds like he needs some redirection in life. __________________ Jenni Finnigan & Gwenndilyn Forever in my heart

08-14-2010, 03:38 PM	#6
107barney T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England Posts: 9,816	Infuriating, for sure. I am glad you notified the church - too bad you could not directly notify all the members of the congregation so they THEY (the congregation) could determine if the investment they were making in this clown (the Minister) and the church that employs this guy was worthwhile. Sounds like the investment in this minister may be worse than a penny stock gone bad.: __________________ T. Bumpkins & Co. Washable Doggie Pee Pads (Save 10% Enter YTSAVE10 at checkout) Cathy, Teddy, Winston and Baby Clyde...RIP angels Barney and Daisy

08-14-2010, 03:50 PM	#7
jltwigg10 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clover, SC Posts: 1,329	I had a friend who was ripped off by someone claiming to be a minister. I was raised in church and this makes me very angry that there are people who will do this. I would be afraid to use God's name in vain like that. __________________ Life is a roller coaster. Don't forget to throw your hands in the air and yell.

08-14-2010, 03:54 PM	#8
Lizzie07 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ball Ground, GA Posts: 1,262	I'm glad you told him honestly what you thought and copied some of the other church officials. That was a slimy thing for the minister to do. __________________ Kristan Lizzy's mom

08-14-2010, 04:04 PM	#9
TakeAChance Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Charlottetown, PE, Canada Posts: 26	That really is infuriating. I sincerely hope he faces some sort of punishment for essentially trying to use his position in the church for his own financial gain.

08-14-2010, 04:06 PM	#10
tjdmom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: upstate ny Posts: 5,847	That really stinks. I can't even believe the nerve of some people!

08-14-2010, 04:18 PM	#11
chattiesmom Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 17,674	Thank you Thank you, everyone for being so supportive. I am tempted to visit a new church tomorrow -- however, I don't want to be vindictive. I tried to be very professional in my replies to his emails and I did copy the church officials on all of my communications -- even though he didn't. I know that we all must answer for our deeds, and I am not one to judge -- the "Judge not lest ye be judged" scares me to death I know that I have enough to answer to without that one. __________________ Silk Step-In Harnesses www.foxypups.etsy.com

08-14-2010, 05:23 PM	#12
Mitzis Mom No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,837	I can understand your anger...

08-14-2010, 06:57 PM	#13
lil fu fu girl No Longer a Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,410	Once upon a time, on a planet called Earth, men of religion use to be honest, humble, and dedicated to the betterment of society. Those days are long gone. I personally, am a very spiritual person and was once told that in order to "get to heaven" I would have to restore my faith in God. I told this "religious" person that I had never lost my faith in God, however, I have lost all faith in humanity. No one is immune to corruption anymore, even those we consider "Holy". I would definitely notify the church about this behavior.

08-14-2010, 07:04 PM	#15
Maximo ♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 25,045	Shameful.