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michiko · 10-25-2005, 07:00 PM

It has been almost 2 months after I asked my landlord for the permission to have a yorkie. I have been watching my friend's yorkie for twice a month. The yorkie has helped me so much as I have been having rough time with my personal issues. My lease ends in end of August next year, and I don't know if I can wait ... I am desperately in need for a yorkie

My boyfriend is moving in my apartment in December. He would like to get me a yorkie. I rarely break any rules or law.. so it is hard for me to do something that against the lease... but I am so desperate.

Some people told me it is easier to ask for forgiveness than a permission. My only concern is when my landlord's son comes to our apartment to fix something. We have three apartments in our unit. I don't know if I could get a yorkie that might not bark much....

this is her email when I asked for permission. What do you think? I should really follow the lease and give up having a yorkie for now?

"
Hello, Michiko, My adopted Yorkie had to be put down 2 weeks ago and she was a NON BARKER, unusual for Yorkies. Since I am retired, I would take her everywhere with me and never leave her home alone. They are like babies, and difficult to potty train and if you are not home full time for any dog, it is impossible and sad for them. Yorkies also cost about $ 1500. each; I had adopted mine from a friend breeder who no longer breeds. SO I AM SORRY TO SAY NO PETS, because then other tenants would have the same rights and unfortunately we have had bad experiences with this"

YorkieShadow · 10-25-2005, 07:06 PM

Wow Id say To wait on the Yorkie. Id also look for a place that would let you have a pet. I would think with her owning a Yorkie that she would understand. Im sorry that she still states No pets.

Frans*lil*Bia* · 10-25-2005, 07:11 PM

I think you should wait till the time is right. Apartment living would be hard for someone to get away with having a dog that is not allowed. te first thing that comes to my mind is the neighbors, they could hear the dog or see you with the dog and get jealous or just be a jerk and tell the landlord anyways. The second thing is all dogs bark, there is no way you could teach your dog to not bark all day everyday because that is what they do, especially if they feel the need to protect, and what if she hears something or a stranger comes to the door, who happens to be the landlord, then what would happen. I think if you cannot stand being without a yorkie, then why not start looking for a new place that accepts pets. I just think if you were to get a dog and have to always be looking over your shoulder and hiding her for the slightest reason you would get worn out and become a nervous wreck. I have done this before but I lived in a house, and until I moved into a pet friendly place my life became less stressful. I mean who needs added stress to their lives, I surely didn't. Good luck with your decision.

susansmom · 10-25-2005, 07:17 PM

You should wait. It's the landlady's building and in part her livelihood. These decisions are hers to make. Your rights to decide ended when you signed the lease. I think it was a good idea to ask, and I'm sorry she said no, but she has the right to do that. Plus, she probably knows what she's talking about concerning the other tenants. She has other people's welfare to consider as well as yours.

And then there's the fact that if you get a dog and she finds you in violation of your lease, it's likely to cost you a ton of money. It's just not worth. I know August seems like a long, long time from now. Maybe she'll let you out of the lease before then. I'd ask her about that next. If she thinks you might sneak in a dog and she really doesn't want one, she might be willing to let you go if she can rent the apartment fairly easily.

I hate to have this opinion because when I asked my landlady, she said yes. So I feel really bad for you. But the waiting probably won't be as painful in the long run as the consequences of not waiting.

BamaFan121s · 10-25-2005, 07:31 PM

Well, rules are rules, you don't have a leg to stand on there. But out of curiosity, why would she feel the need to tell you how much they cost? As if you are so uninformed that that is not something you're aware of...what business is it of hers how much they cost. It's your money, not hers. I am sorry, I may just be adding fuel to the fire, but it really irritates me when people say things like that or try to convince you of something in that manner. It's like, 'OK, well maybe you see it that way, but I don't...'

whispersmom2 · 10-25-2005, 07:36 PM

I don't know what your personal issues are and it is none of my business. But, you are gonna add to your issues if you get a Yorkie, try to train it, try to keep it quiet, try to keep the landlord from knowing, try to keep the other neighbors from knowing. There are just too many "try to's" for a good Yorkie home right now. So wait til you have some of your issues settled, both personal and with your living arrangements, and when the time ir right and in the best interest of the Yorkie you will be ready to bring one of these little ones into your life. I wish you the best..

michiko · 10-25-2005, 07:46 PM

Well I consider a dog to be the best therapist. I think being busy taking care of dog makes me feel better instead of being so depressed. Anyway..thanks for the feedback. Actually my downstairs neighbors know that I dogsit a yorkie, and he thought I should get a dog. I don't think my other neighbors want dogs, but I guess I should really need to look into moving. I have lived here for 4-5 years now.. it's gonna be tough.

Anyway.. I have no family at all in this country. All my family is in Japan. I haven't been able to go home for five years, and my mother just got admitted to a hospital and going to stay there for awhile. I cannot be there for her. I am having nightmares and a dog has helped me calm down and have kept me company.. I just cannot borrow my friend's dog all the time

whispersmom2 · 10-25-2005, 07:55 PM

Michiko, I am so sorry to hear about your mother. It is so hard to be away from our moms when they are sick. They are the closest people on the earth to us and they are like a part of us. I can only guess how much you are hurting.
BUT, remember you are going to have legal company soon, I mean your boyfriend. The landlord cannot tell you that you cannot have him so I would wait til he moves in and see if his company helps with your depression. I think it will. It worries me that you will get the dog, give it your heart, learn to love it so much and then your landlord could say "The dog goes or you go!" Do you think that would be worse?
I lived in Maryland when my mother got sick in Florida. I was a nurse and just had no way to get to her for a while. I truly thought my heart would break! It almost did but I did make it through. I think you will too.
I am saying prayers that your mom is getting stronger each day and that your sadness will be less every day.

twnty_yrs_later · 10-25-2005, 08:06 PM

i guess the right thing to say is to wait to get the yorkie.

i understand where you're coming from. (before i got Crunchy, i had wanted one for sooo long and really couldn't because i was living in a dorm ...so obviously i REALLY Couldnt have one in that situation. well i kept trying to figure out different arrangements that might work but in the end i had to just wait until this year once i had an apt of my own)

And now i can tell you it would be pretty hard to try and keep a pet without management finding out. Like you said every once and awhile maintainence will have to come over, he's bound to leave stains on the carpet, chew/tear it up even, you're gonna have to take him out -something thats bound to be seen by mgt, and of course the barking (however i must say, oddly enough mine never really barks, hes almost 4 mths and it wasnt too long ago that i even first heard him make a peep but apparently most Yorkies are big yappers)

michiko · 10-26-2005, 04:46 PM

I wonder if I could get an assisted dog as emotional support.. but then I don't think I want to go to therapy to have a therapist to write a letter to be able to do that.. oh well..

It's so hard to find a reasonably priced apartment that allows dogs in Boston area.

yorkieusa · 10-26-2005, 06:05 PM

I vote no yorkie or move.

susansmom · 10-26-2005, 06:14 PM

Do they have assistive dogs for emotional support? I used to be a teacher for the deaf and I knew people who had assistive dogs for that. But there was usually a long waiting list and the person getting the dog has to go for training too. And the training for hearing dogs is only available in a few places. I don't know about dogs for other situations.

shireyak · 10-26-2005, 06:38 PM

I as well vote NO YORKIE OR MOVE

sorry

, it's the only really wise choice.

michiko · 10-26-2005, 06:41 PM

Boo BOo!

And yes it seems like people can get an assisted/service dog for mental health reason. And a landlord have to let people to have an assisted dog even they have no pet in lease.

cindy0721 · 10-27-2005, 05:55 AM

Well coming from experience, I would say if you really want a dog that bad move. I used to have to hide my kitty at my old townhouse and it was very hard considering and cats don't bark. I then wanted a dog so I decided I would rather lose my deposit than stay wanting something because of a "no pets" rule. Could you maybe rent a house? Or duplex? considering there would be a backyard??

10-25-2005, 07:00 PM	#1
michiko The Yorkie Sitter Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 2,350	I am still debating.. need advice It has been almost 2 months after I asked my landlord for the permission to have a yorkie. I have been watching my friend's yorkie for twice a month. The yorkie has helped me so much as I have been having rough time with my personal issues. My lease ends in end of August next year, and I don't know if I can wait ... I am desperately in need for a yorkie My boyfriend is moving in my apartment in December. He would like to get me a yorkie. I rarely break any rules or law.. so it is hard for me to do something that against the lease... but I am so desperate. Some people told me it is easier to ask for forgiveness than a permission. My only concern is when my landlord's son comes to our apartment to fix something. We have three apartments in our unit. I don't know if I could get a yorkie that might not bark much.... this is her email when I asked for permission. What do you think? I should really follow the lease and give up having a yorkie for now? " Hello, Michiko, My adopted Yorkie had to be put down 2 weeks ago and she was a NON BARKER, unusual for Yorkies. Since I am retired, I would take her everywhere with me and never leave her home alone. They are like babies, and difficult to potty train and if you are not home full time for any dog, it is impossible and sad for them. Yorkies also cost about $ 1500. each; I had adopted mine from a friend breeder who no longer breeds. SO I AM SORRY TO SAY NO PETS, because then other tenants would have the same rights and unfortunately we have had bad experiences with this"

10-25-2005, 07:11 PM	#3
FranslilBia* Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hayward, Ca Posts: 118	I think you should wait till the time is right. Apartment living would be hard for someone to get away with having a dog that is not allowed. te first thing that comes to my mind is the neighbors, they could hear the dog or see you with the dog and get jealous or just be a jerk and tell the landlord anyways. The second thing is all dogs bark, there is no way you could teach your dog to not bark all day everyday because that is what they do, especially if they feel the need to protect, and what if she hears something or a stranger comes to the door, who happens to be the landlord, then what would happen. I think if you cannot stand being without a yorkie, then why not start looking for a new place that accepts pets. I just think if you were to get a dog and have to always be looking over your shoulder and hiding her for the slightest reason you would get worn out and become a nervous wreck. I have done this before but I lived in a house, and until I moved into a pet friendly place my life became less stressful. I mean who needs added stress to their lives, I surely didn't. Good luck with your decision. __________________ I love my babies Bia & Bella http://www.dogster.com/?187885 Bia http://www.dogster.com/?198950 Bella

10-25-2005, 08:06 PM	#9
twnty_yrs_later Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 244	i guess the right thing to say is to wait to get the yorkie. i understand where you're coming from. (before i got Crunchy, i had wanted one for sooo long and really couldn't because i was living in a dorm ...so obviously i REALLY Couldnt have one in that situation. well i kept trying to figure out different arrangements that might work but in the end i had to just wait until this year once i had an apt of my own) And now i can tell you it would be pretty hard to try and keep a pet without management finding out. Like you said every once and awhile maintainence will have to come over, he's bound to leave stains on the carpet, chew/tear it up even, you're gonna have to take him out -something thats bound to be seen by mgt, and of course the barking (however i must say, oddly enough mine never really barks, hes almost 4 mths and it wasnt too long ago that i even first heard him make a peep but apparently most Yorkies are big yappers) __________________ Adriana Crunchy

10-26-2005, 06:05 PM	#11
yorkieusa Crazy about Kacee! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 21,173	I vote no yorkie or move. __________________ Karen Kacee Muffin 1991-2005 Rest in Peace My Little Angel

10-27-2005, 05:55 AM	#15
cindy0721 Always In My Heart Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Lone Star State Posts: 3,393	Well coming from experience, I would say if you really want a dog that bad move. I used to have to hide my kitty at my old townhouse and it was very hard considering and cats don't bark. I then wanted a dog so I decided I would rather lose my deposit than stay wanting something because of a "no pets" rule. Could you maybe rent a house? Or duplex? considering there would be a backyard?? __________________ Cindy & Gizmo Gizmo on Dogster *Rest in peace My Madda* *very much*

10-25-2005, 07:06 PM	#2
YorkieShadow BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,999	Wow Id say To wait on the Yorkie. Id also look for a place that would let you have a pet. I would think with her owning a Yorkie that she would understand. Im sorry that she still states No pets.

10-25-2005, 07:17 PM	#4
susansmom YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Harrison, AR Posts: 347	You should wait. It's the landlady's building and in part her livelihood. These decisions are hers to make. Your rights to decide ended when you signed the lease. I think it was a good idea to ask, and I'm sorry she said no, but she has the right to do that. Plus, she probably knows what she's talking about concerning the other tenants. She has other people's welfare to consider as well as yours. And then there's the fact that if you get a dog and she finds you in violation of your lease, it's likely to cost you a ton of money. It's just not worth. I know August seems like a long, long time from now. Maybe she'll let you out of the lease before then. I'd ask her about that next. If she thinks you might sneak in a dog and she really doesn't want one, she might be willing to let you go if she can rent the apartment fairly easily. I hate to have this opinion because when I asked my landlady, she said yes. So I feel really bad for you. But the waiting probably won't be as painful in the long run as the consequences of not waiting.

10-25-2005, 07:31 PM	#5
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Well, rules are rules, you don't have a leg to stand on there. But out of curiosity, why would she feel the need to tell you how much they cost? As if you are so uninformed that that is not something you're aware of...what business is it of hers how much they cost. It's your money, not hers. I am sorry, I may just be adding fuel to the fire, but it really irritates me when people say things like that or try to convince you of something in that manner. It's like, 'OK, well maybe you see it that way, but I don't...'

10-25-2005, 07:36 PM	#6
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	I don't know what your personal issues are and it is none of my business. But, you are gonna add to your issues if you get a Yorkie, try to train it, try to keep it quiet, try to keep the landlord from knowing, try to keep the other neighbors from knowing. There are just too many "try to's" for a good Yorkie home right now. So wait til you have some of your issues settled, both personal and with your living arrangements, and when the time ir right and in the best interest of the Yorkie you will be ready to bring one of these little ones into your life. I wish you the best..

10-25-2005, 07:46 PM	#7
michiko The Yorkie Sitter Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 2,350	Well I consider a dog to be the best therapist. I think being busy taking care of dog makes me feel better instead of being so depressed. Anyway..thanks for the feedback. Actually my downstairs neighbors know that I dogsit a yorkie, and he thought I should get a dog. I don't think my other neighbors want dogs, but I guess I should really need to look into moving. I have lived here for 4-5 years now.. it's gonna be tough. Anyway.. I have no family at all in this country. All my family is in Japan. I haven't been able to go home for five years, and my mother just got admitted to a hospital and going to stay there for awhile. I cannot be there for her. I am having nightmares and a dog has helped me calm down and have kept me company.. I just cannot borrow my friend's dog all the time

10-25-2005, 07:55 PM	#8
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	Michiko, I am so sorry to hear about your mother. It is so hard to be away from our moms when they are sick. They are the closest people on the earth to us and they are like a part of us. I can only guess how much you are hurting. BUT, remember you are going to have legal company soon, I mean your boyfriend. The landlord cannot tell you that you cannot have him so I would wait til he moves in and see if his company helps with your depression. I think it will. It worries me that you will get the dog, give it your heart, learn to love it so much and then your landlord could say "The dog goes or you go!" Do you think that would be worse? I lived in Maryland when my mother got sick in Florida. I was a nurse and just had no way to get to her for a while. I truly thought my heart would break! It almost did but I did make it through. I think you will too. I am saying prayers that your mom is getting stronger each day and that your sadness will be less every day.

10-26-2005, 04:46 PM	#10
michiko The Yorkie Sitter Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 2,350	I wonder if I could get an assisted dog as emotional support.. but then I don't think I want to go to therapy to have a therapist to write a letter to be able to do that.. oh well.. It's so hard to find a reasonably priced apartment that allows dogs in Boston area.

10-26-2005, 06:14 PM	#12
susansmom YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Harrison, AR Posts: 347	Do they have assistive dogs for emotional support? I used to be a teacher for the deaf and I knew people who had assistive dogs for that. But there was usually a long waiting list and the person getting the dog has to go for training too. And the training for hearing dogs is only available in a few places. I don't know about dogs for other situations.

10-26-2005, 06:38 PM	#13
shireyak YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 323	I as well vote NO YORKIE OR MOVE sorry , it's the only really wise choice.

10-26-2005, 06:41 PM	#14
michiko The Yorkie Sitter Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 2,350	Boo BOo! And yes it seems like people can get an assisted/service dog for mental health reason. And a landlord have to let people to have an assisted dog even they have no pet in lease.