Cutting Corners - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Cerise · 04-22-2010, 07:47 AM

Here are ways most unethical breeders, BYB's, PM's, and brokers cut corners in their plans and the first one listed is why you get a lot of Yorkies that aren't standard and look a bit off (hair, ears, body, face, etc.) once they get older.

1. They cross breed a female Silky with a male Yorkie because she can produce a large litter and then call them Yorkies, because most gullible people don't know the difference.

2. They do no health testing...NONE...but lie and say they do because they have learned how to "business talk" to buyers to seem legit.

3. They sell the puppies at 6-8 weeks old to cut their own expenses to make $$$. These puppies have not been wormed or had their first set of shots.

4. They claim they have a health guarantee

again... this is "business talk" and doing #3 above is a big clue.

5. If you are lucky to go to their homes the mama dog usually may not even look like she has been nursing, or they may not have the neither of parents on site, or they may give some bogus excuse about them. But they miraculously have a litter of puppies (BROKER)

To all you puppy shoppers out there.... PLEASE do research and educate yourselves and not fall victim to puppy wanting fever. Have patience and find a real Yorkie from a reputable breeder.

BamaFan121s · 04-22-2010, 07:51 AM

Thanks for the explanation. It's very informative and helpful.

I've bred and raised litters and I KNOW how expensive it is. When I see pups going for extremely low amounts, the first thing that comes to mind is "How on Earth could you swing that? What shortcuts are you taking?"

The first thing I assume is that the dogs, and dam/sire, have not had any specific health tests done...beyond just a 'vet check,' if that. Because those costs add up VERY quickly.

Cerise · 04-22-2010, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Thanks for the explanation. It's very informative and helpful.

I've bred and raised litters and I KNOW how expensive it is. When I see pups going for extremely low amounts, the first thing that comes to mind is "How on Earth could you swing that? What shortcuts are you taking?"

The first thing I assume is that the dogs, and dam/sire, have not had any specific health tests done...beyond just a 'vet check,' if that. Because those costs add up VERY quickly.

Exactly!

So the bargin puppy ends up not being a bargin at all later down the road with the vet bills the new owner is stuck with. There will be vet bills owning a Yorkie, but these unneccessary bills from breeding healthy dogs are heartbreaking. I get nervous every time I go to the sick and injured section in YT to read post there.

megansmomma · 04-22-2010, 09:05 AM

Excellent post!

Cerise · 04-22-2010, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerise

Exactly!

So the bargin puppy ends up not being a bargin at all later down the road with the vet bills the new owner is stuck with. There will be vet bills owning a Yorkie, but these unneccessary bills from breeding healthy dogs are heartbreaking. I get nervous every time I go to the sick and injured section in YT to read post there.

LOL at myself and typing errors... that is meant to say "UNhealthy" dogs

scentlady · 04-22-2010, 05:16 PM

Grrreat thread!

Nancy1999 · 07-19-2010, 07:42 PM

How did I miss this thread, very informative, thanks for posting.

smartpuppiepets · 07-19-2010, 08:16 PM

Great Post !

Ladymom · 07-19-2010, 08:20 PM

Great thread!

Rachael x · 07-20-2010, 02:42 AM

Dzbabykel · 07-20-2010, 05:22 AM

Such a GREAT post! I really hope interested buyers with no experience come here first and read this, I got lucky with my breeder but would have not known HALF the information I received from this site prior to bringing home my baby. Thanks for sharing!

smartpuppiepets · 07-20-2010, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzbabykel

Such a GREAT post! I really hope interested buyers with no experience come here first and read this, I got lucky with my breeder but would have not known HALF the information I received from this site prior to bringing home my baby. Thanks for sharing!

Good for you , but a lot of times we try to educate people but they do not want to listen, specially when they see those "bargain" prices on the local newspapers.
This is a great post ! Not only for pet owners but for breeders too. It makes us feel good about the recognition of a conscious breeding approach with responsible practices. It is nice to see people who notice the hard work we have, and expensive !
XOXO

WV~Yorkies · 07-20-2010, 08:39 PM

Great post

topknot · 07-21-2010, 04:24 AM

What I have also noted about these breeders is that the pups never see a vet at all. The breeder gives all the shots themself as well as never taking them in for testing, so how do they know they are healthy or not or an underlining problem that will pop up soon when the buyer has it at home. And then the breeder does not have a guarantee. No support at all. Bad business and not ethical. So a good question to ask and have proof when searching for a pup - is vet exams.

topknot · 07-21-2010, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smartpuppiepets

Good for you , but a lot of times we try to educate people but they do not want to listen, specially when they see those "bargain" prices on the local newspapers...

So true - there are some out there that only want the bargain price and hope it will not have a problem and they listen to what that breeder says - thinking it is truth. The bargain prices shows corners that breeder had to make to sell at the low price.

04-22-2010, 07:47 AM	#1
Cerise Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,601	Cutting Corners Here are ways most unethical breeders, BYB's, PM's, and brokers cut corners in their plans and the first one listed is why you get a lot of Yorkies that aren't standard and look a bit off (hair, ears, body, face, etc.) once they get older. 1. They cross breed a female Silky with a male Yorkie because she can produce a large litter and then call them Yorkies, because most gullible people don't know the difference. 2. They do no health testing...NONE...but lie and say they do because they have learned how to "business talk" to buyers to seem legit. 3. They sell the puppies at 6-8 weeks old to cut their own expenses to make $$$. These puppies have not been wormed or had their first set of shots. 4. They claim they have a health guarantee again... this is "business talk" and doing #3 above is a big clue. 5. If you are lucky to go to their homes the mama dog usually may not even look like she has been nursing, or they may not have the neither of parents on site, or they may give some bogus excuse about them. But they miraculously have a litter of puppies (BROKER) To all you puppy shoppers out there.... PLEASE do research and educate yourselves and not fall victim to puppy wanting fever. Have patience and find a real Yorkie from a reputable breeder. __________________ life with my Cerise

04-22-2010, 09:05 AM	#4
megansmomma Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. W. Suburbs of Chicago, IL Posts: 12,235	Excellent post! __________________ “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” Mark Twain

07-19-2010, 07:42 PM	#7
Nancy1999 I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 25,396 Blog Entries: 2	How did I miss this thread, very informative, thanks for posting. __________________ NancyJoey Proud members of the CrAzYcLuB and YAP! ** Just Say No to Puppymills – Join YAP! Yorkshire Terrier Club of America – Breeder Referrals

07-19-2010, 08:16 PM	#8
smartpuppiepets YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Beverly Posts: 1,042	Great Post ! __________________ "The reason a dog has many friends is because it wags it's tail instead of it's tong " [I]Smartpuppiepets@yahoo.com /I][

07-19-2010, 08:20 PM	#9
Ladymom Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 8,317	Great thread! __________________ http://www.myladysdogbows.com/ http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref...6213341?ref=nf

04-22-2010, 07:51 AM	#2
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Thanks for the explanation. It's very informative and helpful. I've bred and raised litters and I KNOW how expensive it is. When I see pups going for extremely low amounts, the first thing that comes to mind is "How on Earth could you swing that? What shortcuts are you taking?" The first thing I assume is that the dogs, and dam/sire, have not had any specific health tests done...beyond just a 'vet check,' if that. Because those costs add up VERY quickly.

04-22-2010, 05:16 PM	#6
scentlady Donating YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: santa maria, ca usa Posts: 474	Grrreat thread!

07-20-2010, 02:42 AM	#10
Rachael x Poppy's Mamma ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: England Posts: 3,751 Blog Entries: 3	__________________ Rachael & Poppy

07-20-2010, 05:22 AM	#11
Dzbabykel Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Gainesville, VA Posts: 1,173	Such a GREAT post! I really hope interested buyers with no experience come here first and read this, I got lucky with my breeder but would have not known HALF the information I received from this site prior to bringing home my baby. Thanks for sharing! __________________ Kelly, mommy to little Oliver *"The more boys I meet, the more I love my dog."* http://www.eat-yourself-skinny.com/

07-20-2010, 08:39 PM	#13
WV~Yorkies Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: WV Posts: 3,605 Blog Entries: 2	Great post __________________ Melissa Wvyorkies

07-21-2010, 04:24 AM	#14
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	What I have also noted about these breeders is that the pups never see a vet at all. The breeder gives all the shots themself as well as never taking them in for testing, so how do they know they are healthy or not or an underlining problem that will pop up soon when the buyer has it at home. And then the breeder does not have a guarantee. No support at all. Bad business and not ethical. So a good question to ask and have proof when searching for a pup - is vet exams.