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JeanieK · 12-14-2009, 09:32 AM

It looks like the BBC documentary may have done some good after all. We can only hope that the AKC will folliow suit.

Healthier new bulldog will lose its Churchillian jowl - Times Online

This post is in reference to the following thread about Show dogs.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...s-exposed.html

misslissa · 12-14-2009, 09:50 AM

wow that sounds like it will be a good thing for the dogs but a bad thing for for the breeders and show dogs they just ended the showing career of hundreds if not thousands of dogs and probably put a lot of breeders out of buisness

livingdustmops · 12-14-2009, 09:52 AM

FYI - I posted a number of threads and breeds that have been helped by the documentary:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...us-guilty.html

hugz4all4 · 12-14-2009, 09:53 AM

I was just watching this video.. Its a headliner on aol news. Its very sad and interesting at the same time. I knew that purebred dogs have changed but wow, I didnt relize it was that much. The part about the "show" german shepard and the "working" german shepard shocked me the most, how and why can the show dog have legs like that and it be ok, its just cruel. My heart was breaking for the cavalier, I was actually interested in buying one in the future, but not anymore. I think it will be awhile before I purchase a purebred anything. I will stick with my mutts, its stated in that video that there is links to cross breds being healthier than purebreds because of all the inbreeding that is being done and has been done for years... purebreds are being genetically ruined...
I know that there are a select few that actually do care about the animals they are breeding and put the time, money,love and effort that is needed to keep the standard but That video was a huge eye opener and I have very little faith in the "purebred" world anymore...

JeanieK · 12-14-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops

FYI - I posted a number of threads and breeds that have been helped by the documentary:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...us-guilty.html

Oh I'm sorry I missed that post.

hugz4all4 · 12-14-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops

FYI - I posted a number of threads and breeds that have been helped by the documentary:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...us-guilty.html

Im very happy to hear that many dogs are being helped, this documentary should of been showed along time ago...

livingdustmops · 12-14-2009, 09:59 AM

It was, I posted it almost 2 years ago or at least 1 1/2 years. This is not new info...it just finally showed up on TV here in the states.

JeanieK · 12-14-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hugz4all4

I was just watching this video.. Its a headliner on aol news. Its very sad and interesting at the same time. I knew that purebred dogs have changed but wow, I didnt relize it was that much. The part about the "show" german shepard and the "working" german shepard shocked me the most, how and why can the show dog have legs like that and it be ok, its just cruel. My heart was breaking for the cavalier, I was actually interested in buying one in the future, but not anymore. I think it will be awhile before I purchase a purebred anything. I will stick with my mutts, its stated in that video that there is links to cross breds being healthier than purebreds because of all the inbreeding that is being done and has been done for years... purebreds are being genetically ruined...
I know that there are a select few that actually do care about the animals they are breeding and put the time, money,love and effort that is needed to keep the standard but That video was a huge eye opener and I have very little faith in the "purebred" world anymore...

The problem starts with the breed clubs that set the standards and refuse to see the problem.

But it also lies with the breeders who are breeding these dogs, knowing that they carry the genetic defect.

If the breeders stopped breeding them the breed would die off, but if the club changed the standard, the breed could continue and the damage be reversed.

It just makes one wonder that with the YTCA DQing all of the colors if the they are going to go the same direction.

Perhaps the off colors will someday become the standard out of necessity.
Parti breedeers have the option of breeding to any yorkshire terrier line, to create carriers. Our gene pool is not limited.

aqeuous18 · 12-14-2009, 10:04 AM

Wow this is a huge reform! So many common breeds are involved. I'm not sure how this will play out, but it's very interesting. But I am happy. Bulldogs suffer so much. When they come in to the salon their faces always stink like BO and most can barely stand on our tables because they're overweight. Kudos to the UK!

JeanieK · 12-14-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by misslissa

wow that sounds like it will be a good thing for the dogs but a bad thing for for the breeders and show dogs they just ended the showing career of hundreds if not thousands of dogs and probably put a lot of breeders out of buisness

If the standards are changed, the breeders will just need to change which dogs they breed. It will be a big shake up for a while, but there are many gooddogs out there that were formerly considered not show dogs, that would now meet new standards.

JeanieK · 12-14-2009, 10:12 AM

It just made me sick that the Ridgeback breed club actually encouraged breeders to destroy those pups that did not have the ridge.

How heartless.

livingdustmops · 12-14-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

The problem starts with the breed clubs that set the standards and refuse to see the problem.

But it also lies with the breeders who are breeding these dogs, knowing that they carry the genetic defect.

If the breeders stopped breeding them the breed would die off, but if the club changed the standard, the breed could continue and the damage be reversed.

It just makes one wonder that with the YTCA DQing all of the colors if the they are going to go the same direction.

Perhaps the off colors will someday become the standard out of necessity.
Parti breedeers have the option of breeding to any yorkshire terrier line, to create carriers. Our gene pool is not limited.

How much studying have you done with the piebald gene or the irish spotting gene. There are some breeders that believe it could harm the dogs and we do know if to much white they will be deaf. Your Parti and the Biewers have both genes or one gene -piebald recessive so you can't throw dirt on this one until more research is done. I have not done research on the chocolate or golden but explain why you need to breed back about every 5th generation to the Yorkies or the dogs will go all white and slowly start dying.

livingdustmops · 12-14-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

It just made me sick that the Ridgeback breed club actually encouraged breeders to destroy those pups that did not have the ridge.

How heartless.

This goes on with all breeds...and is still encouraged with the Parti's/Biewers showing up.

AmyChristine · 12-14-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

It just made me sick that the Ridgeback breed club actually encouraged breeders to destroy those pups that did not have the ridge.

How heartless.

me too the first 30min of the show I was sick to my stomach

I could not even imagine choosing to destroy a healthy pup or giving support to a parent club that encourages it

AmyChristine · 12-14-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops

This goes on with all breeds...and is still encouraged with the Parti's/Biewers showing up.

So sad

I wish they would just spay/neuter them and place them in a pet home.

12-14-2009, 09:32 AM	#1
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	Good news for some breeds, Will the AKC follow suit? It looks like the BBC documentary may have done some good after all. We can only hope that the AKC will folliow suit. Healthier new bulldog will lose its Churchillian jowl - Times Online This post is in reference to the following thread about Show dogs. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...s-exposed.html

12-14-2009, 09:50 AM	#2
misslissa YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: canton ohio us Posts: 1,574	wow that sounds like it will be a good thing for the dogs but a bad thing for for the breeders and show dogs they just ended the showing career of hundreds if not thousands of dogs and probably put a lot of breeders out of buisness __________________ Don't say I love you unless you mean it, but if you do say it a lot. People forget.

12-14-2009, 09:52 AM	#3
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	FYI - I posted a number of threads and breeds that have been helped by the documentary: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...us-guilty.html __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

12-14-2009, 09:53 AM	#4
hugz4all4 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: upstate NY Posts: 2,114 Blog Entries: 1	I was just watching this video.. Its a headliner on aol news. Its very sad and interesting at the same time. I knew that purebred dogs have changed but wow, I didnt relize it was that much. The part about the "show" german shepard and the "working" german shepard shocked me the most, how and why can the show dog have legs like that and it be ok, its just cruel. My heart was breaking for the cavalier, I was actually interested in buying one in the future, but not anymore. I think it will be awhile before I purchase a purebred anything. I will stick with my mutts, its stated in that video that there is links to cross breds being healthier than purebreds because of all the inbreeding that is being done and has been done for years... purebreds are being genetically ruined... I know that there are a select few that actually do care about the animals they are breeding and put the time, money,love and effort that is needed to keep the standard but That video was a huge eye opener and I have very little faith in the "purebred" world anymore... __________________ Love all 9 of my furrbutts!

12-14-2009, 09:59 AM	#7
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	It was, I posted it almost 2 years ago or at least 1 1/2 years. This is not new info...it just finally showed up on TV here in the states. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

12-14-2009, 10:04 AM	#9
aqeuous18 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Western NY Posts: 231	Wow this is a huge reform! So many common breeds are involved. I'm not sure how this will play out, but it's very interesting. But I am happy. Bulldogs suffer so much. When they come in to the salon their faces always stink like BO and most can barely stand on our tables because they're overweight. Kudos to the UK! __________________ Kelly and Wookie Have you hugged your groomer today?

12-14-2009, 10:12 AM	#11
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	It just made me sick that the Ridgeback breed club actually encouraged breeders to destroy those pups that did not have the ridge. How heartless.