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03-14-2009, 10:00 PM | #1 |
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| Chloe eats paper and tissue, fiance spanks her bum Chloe is 15 weeks old, and yes..she does get into a lot of things. She finds paper and shreds it, kleenex, etc. My fiance gets really mad about this and thinks that she should know not to. I try to tell him that she is just a puppy and by just saying "NO" in a firm voice, she will eventually learn. He thinks that it is okay to spank her when she does something like this. I don't think this is okay at all. Caesar Millan says that it is okay to give the dog a light tap and say "NO" firmly, so they know that you mean business, but never a hit or spank. What can I do to make her stop? Anyone else have this problem? What can I tell my fiance. He never spanks her hard, but I just fear that it will harm their relationship and that she will be afraid of him if it keeps up. She is a wonderful puppy and him and I both love her dearly! Thanks for any advice! |
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03-14-2009, 10:04 PM | #2 |
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| Never never never spank a yorkie. They can get hurt too easily. Replace fiance if he won't listen. |
03-14-2009, 10:11 PM | #3 |
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03-14-2009, 10:16 PM | #4 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | OR, maybe you need to puppy proof your house. No paper within easy reach = she won't be shredding it. Put kleenex boxes in inaccessible places, toilet paper on the back of the toilet, buy garbage cans with lids.
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03-14-2009, 10:20 PM | #5 |
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| It is definitely puppy proofed She just gets pieces of paper that are dropped, like receipts & wrappers |
03-14-2009, 10:28 PM | #6 |
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03-14-2009, 10:32 PM | #7 | ||
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I agree -- no spanking at all! I was looking for advice ... not negative comments from others but thank you anyway But honestly, I hope you were joking about replacing my fiance not very funny if it was a joke | ||
03-14-2009, 11:20 PM | #8 |
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| I have one that if a piece of paper is dropped, he will grab it and run to his crate and try to hide it...he knows he aint suppose to have it and thats why he tries to hide it....if i dont take it, he will shred it to pieces. I always just take it away and say firmly NO. Maybe someday he will get the message haha...I just try to keep everything from his reach. Some people may not agree but i dont think anybody should spank a dog. I think that will just make it afraid of you. Good luck!
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03-14-2009, 11:23 PM | #9 |
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| This is my opinion. I was making light of the situation but seriously my comment did have one tiny thread of truth in it. Anyone who hits a puppy would not be a fiance I would have. (Me, my values.) I do have some questions for you. Does he like dogs? Did he want the puppy? Does he have a temper? Will he listen to you and take your feelings about the matter seriously? Honestly this is a reality check for you and your life as it may be in the future. You are asking for advice from strangers. I am willing to give it to you straight. I came from a horrible abusive back ground and think there are warning signs women choose to ignore. I am not jumping to say he is an abuser. I am saying if he does not take your feelings and welfare for the dog seriously. . . why the hell not. And are you willing to live with that? Anyone knows you do not strike a puppy, that is not how they learn. They do not have full control of their bowels yet. They are learning. If you want a dog to regress, get fearful and run from you. Hit it. A yorkie is a toy breed that is fragile and can be easily hurt. Was his act out of anger? I in no way want to attack your fiance. I would appeal to him and seriously ask him not to hit the dog again. Then decide what you want to do about it. It is not funny to tell you to break up with him. I am asking you to consider your own situation. Just giving you my perspective, take it or leave it. |
03-14-2009, 11:49 PM | #10 | |
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1. My fiance, Matt, has never had a pet in his life. I have always had pets, dogs, cats, fish, etc. so, of course, I wanted another with him. We talked and talked and finally we decided we should get a Yorkie, since he has terrible allergies. So - I strongly feel that this action comes from him not knowing what to do around dogs/puppies - not knowing it is wrong. He absolutely adores Chloe! He likes her so much, he plays with her all the time, she sleeps on his lap, sits on his lap while chewing a bully stick, etc. They are good buddies! I'm sorry but to say that this is a "reality check" for the future for me is absolutely absurd. Alluding to him being an abuser is beyond far fetched and completely out of line. No, I am not ignoring any warning signs, because there definitely aren't any thank you very much! Matt has never had a pet, he doesn't know that giving the pet a spank is wrong. I have to make this very clear - Matt never spanks Chloe hard, it is never in an abusing way and he is never angry - he is always very calm - he just feels that it is necessary for her to learn not to do such things. I suppose this may be placed on the same level as spanking your children, although they are a lot larger. Some people feel it is wrong, some people don't. We are a loving family, and intend to give Chloe all the love she wants! My intentions for this thread were to find out what others do about their dogs getting into things, sorry if I didn't make that clear. I don't leave things out on purpose, but she is sneaky and finds her way into things that she shouldn't! Also, you use the word "strike", which sounds very harsh. He never "strikes" Chloe, but gives her a soft spank. And I do not believe that everybody knows that dogs shouldn't be spanked - but people do learn! That is what this forum is for... learning! | |
03-15-2009, 12:02 AM | #11 |
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| I agree with you I totally did not see where you were looking for ways to keep your puppy from getting into things. I did not see that. I even read the OP twice. What I read was Matt was hitting your dog and that kinda got me upset, and concerned for you. Thinking that if he could hit the dog, maybe one day he would hit you too. I am glad you have a loving family. I am sure this is just a bump in the road . I hope he does not continue to discipline the dog in the same manner. Puppy proof? I think the best thing is to get an ex pen. Then you can totally control their surroundings. The dog may whine a bit, but it will be safe . Oh and if that doesn't work give me the dog!! JK!! |
03-15-2009, 12:11 AM | #12 |
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| We've got everything under the sun for Chloe! An XPEN a Crate a bed/house but I just can't keep her in the xpen all the time, I feel horrible if I am in the living room and she is just sitting in her xpen looking at me sadly! haha! I'm sure it's just a phase. My sister's Boston Terrier finds tissue and tries to eat it...he's over a year. |
03-15-2009, 12:25 AM | #13 |
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| I think if you don't want Chloe to get into paper or trash, don't make it accessible to her. I know Curly LOVES to tear up paper. I first learned this when I bought a huge pack of paper towels and left it on the kitchen floor while I was outside. Now, we have paper bits to wipe our hands with. She shredded nearly the whole pack! My fault, NOT hers. I know you said she finds these bits around to tear up, well that isn't her fault so she shouldn't be punished with a spanking for it. I understand that Matt has never had a puppy but he does now so it's time to learn. Have him read this website a while, he'll learn fast. We all do! My baby is about the same age as yours and I can't imagine spanking her, even "softly". She's SO little I would really fear hurting her. Just explain to Matt that it isn't her fault she found stuff on the floor. Maybe you can vacuum every day or something. |
03-15-2009, 12:27 AM | #14 |
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| It's not easy, but you just have to make sure all paper and tissues and anything like that are out of reach. IMO, that's the best solution. And try to get your hands on some research by somebody with letters after their name that says spanking dogs, no matter how lightly, is bad. I'm sure if you poke around on Google, you can find a few things. Hopefully your man is willing to look at good clear evidence from a professional and adapt his behavior to what is best for your pup. Lauren & Nikko |
03-15-2009, 01:12 AM | #15 |
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