Walmart & their Policy on pets - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Cookie2 · 09-01-2005, 04:27 PM

I just don't get it! I understand that the only animals that are allowed in Walmart are Service Animals. I have taken Cookie a few times in his carrier/purse which is completely closed except for the mesh sides. Well we got caught many months ago and I didnt bring him back. What really upsets me is when I see people bringing in their dogs sitting in the shopping cart and nobody tells them a thing!? These were NOT service animals.The icing on the cake was well dressed pretty lady walked in Walmart with the big pink dog stroller with her adorable female yorkie sitting in the front watching all the people go by. No one told this lady anything.She went and got film developed and continued to shop. Don't get me wrong , I dont think she was doing anything wrong. What upsets me is the fact that sales people saw her and didnt say a word. And my tiny yorkie who doesnt make a sound in his carrier was asked to leave immediately.The yorkie I saw was adorable! She looked twice the size of Cookie and very well behaved also.

Genie

MoGraceLiz · 09-01-2005, 04:35 PM

I know what you mean, the other day I saw a man with a large parrot on his shoulder. Now you're not going to tell me that it is a service animal.

Also how many times have you seen a bird from the outside flying around inside the store. They certainly don't poop/pee on pee pads.

Strange, very, very strange.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 09-01-2005, 04:37 PM

Could be they are "looking the other way" now since they may have received a lot complaints and people saying they wouldn't shop there again if they don't let the dogs in carriers and strollers in. I would try to bring your baby again and see what happens.

Also, it is not alway obvious that a dog is a service dog. No special sign, patch, license. registration, tag or vest is required. I usually carry ID with mine but no one would ever know unless they asked or I offered that they were in fact service dogs.

donnaz · 09-01-2005, 04:44 PM

Are you meaning like a seeing eye dog? What kind of service dog do you have.

red98vett · 09-01-2005, 04:55 PM

I do have a question

What kind of Service Dog rides in a Pink Stroller ? What Service is this dog able to do all zipped in a stroller ?

I'm really curious because I keep reading about it ....but to me... a Service dog would be a dog that would need to be NEAR me to sense a problem & be able to Alert (or whatever it is they do) when there's a problem.

Most strollers have a dog encased so they can't jump out - They are zipped in and sometimes WITH a harness. What good is a service dog if it's in a stroller and you have a seizure or something ? How would the dog even KNOW if someone had a seizure ?

if a person is disabled and couldn't bend over for instance. They dropped their car keys - A yorkie in a Stroller is of no use to that person. It sure couldn't pick up those car keys for the owner. So ....How would a easy-riding stylin shopping yorkie in Walmart be of "Service" ?

chechinmipo · 09-01-2005, 05:00 PM

Walmart officials are retarded. With all respect to people who shop there me being one of them once in a blue moon. They won't allow pets but they allow a bunch of human animals that make the shopping experience horrible. They bump in to you , you can barely get to were you need to. Thats why I don't go there very often , I can't stand the amount of people at one time. I'd rather go to target.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 09-01-2005, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

I do have a question

What kind of Service Dog rides in a Pink Stroller ? What Service is this dog able to do all zipped in a stroller ?

I'm really curious because I keep reading about it ....but to me... a Service dog would be a dog that would need to be NEAR me to sense a problem & be able to Alert (or whatever it is they do) when there's a problem.

Most strollers have a dog encased so they can't jump out - They are zipped in and sometimes WITH a harness. What good is a service dog if it's in a stroller and you have a seizure or something ? How would the dog even KNOW if someone had a seizure ?

if a person is disabled and couldn't bend over for instance. They dropped their car keys - A yorkie in a Stroller is of no use to that person. It sure couldn't pick up those car keys for the owner. So ....How would a easy-riding stylin shopping yorkie in Walmart be of "Service" ?

Service dogs are not always "working" but they are always service dogs. It could be she needs her dog with her at certain times of the day or for certain appointments she has, but the service dog has to be with it's owner 24/7 and needs access for this reason.

There are dogs trained to do all manner of things for people including simply being there for comfort when a person with social anxiety disorder feels an anxiety attack coming on for example. Soem are trained to call 911 from the home phone or alert when the dorrbell rings at home so they may not "work" at all when they are out of the house, but they are still service animals. The special relationship that develops requires the owner and dog to be together almost constantly.

Several of my dogs are alert dogs and they alert to specific sounds they hear and it doesn't matter where they are they can hear the sound and alert.

chachi · 09-01-2005, 05:02 PM

Thats the problem I have with walmart also. Its always an unpleasant shopping experience.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 09-01-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by donnaz

Are you meaning like a seeing eye dog? What kind of service dog do you have.

A service dog is a dog trained to assist or otherwise help in the day to day life of a person with a qualifying disability. Under the Americans with Disabilities Act a person who cannot live a normal day by day existence due to a disability of any sort can have a dog trained to assist with that disability and that dog is granted access to all public places with no restrictions other than those placed on normal able bodied persons.

So, it doesn't have to be a seeing eye dog although those are the most common, it can be as little as a dog who provides a stress relief for someone with high blood pressure, or a dog who senses when it's owner is about to get a migraine headache so she can take her preventative medication, or who detects changes in body temperature and other signs to alert it's owner to an epileptic or other form of seizure.

I have several family members with partial hearing loss and some of my dogs are trained to alert to certain sounds that they cannot hear easily like a forklift backing up in Costco for instance.

Dogs are amazing animals as we all know from reading the stories on here about dogs who knew their owner was pregnant or sick before they did. Mother doggies who sense a sick puppy and either don't nurse it or try to hide it, etc.

Depending on the disability, some dogs need no special training and some need training from an owner and a professional or just one or the other. At any rate I am happy to help anyone learn more as it has been a benefit to both myself and my dogs to make them service animals.

red98vett · 09-01-2005, 05:18 PM

I DO know what real service dogs do - Debbie of Cosettes Closet has a trained yorkie who can dial 911.

To me - A true Service Dog can anticipate seizures etc. and yes - I do understand the idea - but wonder how they could really help if they were all leashed and zipped in a stroller.

Whether that yorkie was a service dog or not - maybe I was more not understanding how someone can bring a dog into a store in a stroller - but not one encased in a carrier.

I would guess many people would want to have a service dog for various reasons ...one of them may be just so they can take them shopping ?

I just realized my girls might be service dogs - when I say "My head is Killing me" they know to sit quietly beside me - does that classify them as Service Dog wannabes ? Maybe I could get them to pour the water for the asprin ? I'm just kidding here -

but yes - for hearing impaired people I can see where they would be a great asset if trained properly.

and I agree on shopping in Walmart - that store is NUTS - for those of us who NEED that "Please stay 3 foot away from me" thing - the people in that store cannot measure. lol - I'm always turning around cause someone is just standing in the middle of the isles and they move slower than the time it takes for a train to cross an intersection when you're in a hurry.

vainchick5 · 09-01-2005, 05:20 PM

I have never had a problem with wal-mart, ever. But I know it's coming one of these days. Sometimes I even wave Coco's little paw at them to say hi and I flash a big smile and walk right in. I think it's just the luck of the draw. If the employee is having a good day, they may look away, but otherwise you are asked to leave.As far as service dogs are concerned, Villette I'm with you. No service dog needs to be in a stroller, since they are there to be alert of whatever they're trained to do. Also true that they may have been trained in certain times of the day and in certain situations but they should always be free to come to the rescue if need be. There's no way that the dog could do anything being zipped up in a stroller. That would be someone that just wanted to make their dog a service dog, so they could take their dogs everywhere.

red98vett · 09-01-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vainchick5

I have never had a problem with wal-mart, ever. But I know it's coming one of these days. Sometimes I even wave Coco's little paw at them to say hi and I flash a big smile and walk right in. I think it's just the luck of the draw. If the employee is having a good day, they may look away, but otherwise you are asked to leave.As far as service dogs are concerned, Villette I'm with you. No service dog needs to be in a stroller, since they are there to be alert of whatever they're trained to do. Also true that they may have been trained in certain times of the day and in certain situations but they should always be free to come to the rescue if need be. There's no way that the dog could do anything being zipped up in a stroller. That would be someone that just wanted to make their dog a service dog, so they could take their dogs everywhere.

That's kinda what I was thinking - I think Jenette should go back and try again - I LOVED that paw waving thing - and I bet the smile works wonders - I've never tried taking my girls in Wally World - I just want to get in and then get the he77 out of there.

ladyfaylyn · 09-01-2005, 05:37 PM

I know just were Your coming from !
Dh and I went in to dots ( a small womans clothing store here in Ohio ) and a young lady ask Us to Please remove the dog or leave and Daisy was in Her carrier the same as Yours with the mesh.We call it Her purse ! My sweet Dh got mad and told the lady that Daisy would not be coming out of Her purse and that there was no food products so what could She hurt ? She is also very well behaved.The lady said dog or You ! So We left.
I hate it but I can see a big dog on a leash because some people don't like dogs but I guess that would be to much ask just to let Daisy slide! I guess that They let one They have to let them all

Tami

SoCalyorkiLvr · 09-01-2005, 05:38 PM

It sounds like a couple of you are simply trying to find controversy where there is is none. It is not funny to make fun of people with disabilities or the dogs who help them imo and I felt funny reading what you wrote like that is what you were doing.

If you do not believe a service dog can be in a stroller then you should research the subject a little more imo or just read what I posted already about the different duties a service dog can provide because they can most certianly be in a stroller. It is safe for one thing and for a small yorkie, safety is always important.

It may be fun for most people to take their dog shopping with them, but for someone with a life altering disability it is sometimes a necessity.

StewiesMom · 09-01-2005, 05:51 PM

I don't expect to bring my dog in anywhere. If I owned a store, I am not sure I would want to allow dogs - not because of our well-behaved ones, but because of some of the not-so-well-behaved ones.

Anyway, I don't shop at Wal Mart because of their treatment of their employees. Its atrocious; their non union practices sicken me.

09-01-2005, 04:27 PM	#1
Cookie2 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,568	Walmart & their Policy on pets I just don't get it! I understand that the only animals that are allowed in Walmart are Service Animals. I have taken Cookie a few times in his carrier/purse which is completely closed except for the mesh sides. Well we got caught many months ago and I didnt bring him back. What really upsets me is when I see people bringing in their dogs sitting in the shopping cart and nobody tells them a thing!? These were NOT service animals.The icing on the cake was well dressed pretty lady walked in Walmart with the big pink dog stroller with her adorable female yorkie sitting in the front watching all the people go by. No one told this lady anything.She went and got film developed and continued to shop. Don't get me wrong , I dont think she was doing anything wrong. What upsets me is the fact that sales people saw her and didnt say a word. And my tiny yorkie who doesnt make a sound in his carrier was asked to leave immediately.The yorkie I saw was adorable! She looked twice the size of Cookie and very well behaved also. Genie

09-01-2005, 04:35 PM	#2
MoGraceLiz Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Western NY Posts: 225	I know what you mean, the other day I saw a man with a large parrot on his shoulder. Now you're not going to tell me that it is a service animal. Also how many times have you seen a bird from the outside flying around inside the store. They certainly don't poop/pee on pee pads. Strange, very, very strange. __________________ Navy Mom Kim

09-01-2005, 04:44 PM	#4
donnaz Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: mo Posts: 13	Service Dog? Are you meaning like a seeing eye dog? What kind of service dog do you have.

09-01-2005, 04:55 PM	#5
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	I do have a question What kind of Service Dog rides in a Pink Stroller ? What Service is this dog able to do all zipped in a stroller ? I'm really curious because I keep reading about it ....but to me... a Service dog would be a dog that would need to be NEAR me to sense a problem & be able to Alert (or whatever it is they do) when there's a problem. Most strollers have a dog encased so they can't jump out - They are zipped in and sometimes WITH a harness. What good is a service dog if it's in a stroller and you have a seizure or something ? How would the dog even KNOW if someone had a seizure ? if a person is disabled and couldn't bend over for instance. They dropped their car keys - A yorkie in a Stroller is of no use to that person. It sure couldn't pick up those car keys for the owner. So ....How would a easy-riding stylin shopping yorkie in Walmart be of "Service" ? __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

09-01-2005, 05:02 PM	#8
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	Thats the problem I have with walmart also. Its always an unpleasant shopping experience. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

09-01-2005, 04:37 PM	#3
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Could be they are "looking the other way" now since they may have received a lot complaints and people saying they wouldn't shop there again if they don't let the dogs in carriers and strollers in. I would try to bring your baby again and see what happens. Also, it is not alway obvious that a dog is a service dog. No special sign, patch, license. registration, tag or vest is required. I usually carry ID with mine but no one would ever know unless they asked or I offered that they were in fact service dogs.

09-01-2005, 05:00 PM	#6
chechinmipo No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Posts: 2,260	Walmart officials are retarded. With all respect to people who shop there me being one of them once in a blue moon. They won't allow pets but they allow a bunch of human animals that make the shopping experience horrible. They bump in to you , you can barely get to were you need to. Thats why I don't go there very often , I can't stand the amount of people at one time. I'd rather go to target.

09-01-2005, 05:18 PM	#10
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	I DO know what real service dogs do - Debbie of Cosettes Closet has a trained yorkie who can dial 911. To me - A true Service Dog can anticipate seizures etc. and yes - I do understand the idea - but wonder how they could really help if they were all leashed and zipped in a stroller. Whether that yorkie was a service dog or not - maybe I was more not understanding how someone can bring a dog into a store in a stroller - but not one encased in a carrier. I would guess many people would want to have a service dog for various reasons ...one of them may be just so they can take them shopping ? I just realized my girls might be service dogs - when I say "My head is Killing me" they know to sit quietly beside me - does that classify them as Service Dog wannabes ? Maybe I could get them to pour the water for the asprin ? I'm just kidding here - but yes - for hearing impaired people I can see where they would be a great asset if trained properly. and I agree on shopping in Walmart - that store is NUTS - for those of us who NEED that "Please stay 3 foot away from me" thing - the people in that store cannot measure. lol - I'm always turning around cause someone is just standing in the middle of the isles and they move slower than the time it takes for a train to cross an intersection when you're in a hurry. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE! Last edited by red98vett; 09-01-2005 at 05:21 PM.

09-01-2005, 05:20 PM	#11
vainchick5 YT 6000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Posts: 6,588	I have never had a problem with wal-mart, ever. But I know it's coming one of these days. Sometimes I even wave Coco's little paw at them to say hi and I flash a big smile and walk right in. I think it's just the luck of the draw. If the employee is having a good day, they may look away, but otherwise you are asked to leave.As far as service dogs are concerned, Villette I'm with you. No service dog needs to be in a stroller, since they are there to be alert of whatever they're trained to do. Also true that they may have been trained in certain times of the day and in certain situations but they should always be free to come to the rescue if need be. There's no way that the dog could do anything being zipped up in a stroller. That would be someone that just wanted to make their dog a service dog, so they could take their dogs everywhere. __________________ Mommy to Coco and Rocco

09-01-2005, 05:37 PM	#13
ladyfaylyn Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 197	I know just were Your coming from ! Dh and I went in to dots ( a small womans clothing store here in Ohio ) and a young lady ask Us to Please remove the dog or leave and Daisy was in Her carrier the same as Yours with the mesh.We call it Her purse ! My sweet Dh got mad and told the lady that Daisy would not be coming out of Her purse and that there was no food products so what could She hurt ? She is also very well behaved.The lady said dog or You ! So We left. I hate it but I can see a big dog on a leash because some people don't like dogs but I guess that would be to much ask just to let Daisy slide! I guess that They let one They have to let them all Tami __________________ *Daisy Bailee Tami*

09-01-2005, 05:38 PM	#14
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	It sounds like a couple of you are simply trying to find controversy where there is is none. It is not funny to make fun of people with disabilities or the dogs who help them imo and I felt funny reading what you wrote like that is what you were doing. If you do not believe a service dog can be in a stroller then you should research the subject a little more imo or just read what I posted already about the different duties a service dog can provide because they can most certianly be in a stroller. It is safe for one thing and for a small yorkie, safety is always important. It may be fun for most people to take their dog shopping with them, but for someone with a life altering disability it is sometimes a necessity.

09-01-2005, 05:51 PM	#15
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	I don't expect to bring my dog in anywhere. If I owned a store, I am not sure I would want to allow dogs - not because of our well-behaved ones, but because of some of the not-so-well-behaved ones. Anyway, I don't shop at Wal Mart because of their treatment of their employees. Its atrocious; their non union practices sicken me. __________________ Kristy & Stewie