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veganlass · 01-11-2009, 06:17 AM

About dog coats.

Animal welfare experts hot under the collar over dogs in coats - Telegraph

Well yes but what do I do with two shivering cold dogs, when their is -6c outside for their walks?.

JeanieK · 01-11-2009, 06:24 AM

It does say there are exceptions for small dogs with thin coats. I tend to asgree, it is over done, and mainly done for the people and not the dog.

bettyeanne · 01-11-2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by veganlass

About dog coats.

Animal welfare experts hot under the collar over dogs in coats - Telegraph

Well yes but what do I do with two shivering cold dogs, when their is -6c outside for their walks?.

I can certainly see both sides of the coin. However, when you live in a cold climate and have a tiny Yorkie with no "undercoat", you just do what you have to do!

Toto wears clothes year round ... we have snow and cold temps here in winter and in summer she is in A/C. Hers is not so much "fashion statement" as it is necessity. And ... her vet agrees!!

Larger dogs with thick coats can withstand frigid temps but we even see them in sweaters and coats when they are out for walks. Our friend, who has a big Lab, always puts boots on her when she goes out in the snow. Otherwise, her pawpads get chapped and cracked. I think that any caring, well-informed pet owner would not be so stupid as to endanger their pet's health for a "fashion statement". Of course, that's just my opinion!

Ashley V · 01-11-2009, 07:09 AM

Someone please explain to me how a dog sweater, coat, shirt... whatever... can lead to bad behavior?

I understand that definitely most dogs don't need the extra layers, but our precious little yorkies do in cold weather!

veganlass · 01-11-2009, 07:09 AM

Apart from my little yorkie getting cold, sophie is a chunky jrt cross shivers with the cold.

2Parises · 01-11-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley V

Someone please explain to me how a dog sweater, coat, shirt... whatever... can lead to bad behavior?

I think the author was drawing a correlation between over-indulgence and bad behavior. The extensive wardrobes is a symptom of over-indulgence....lack of rules, boundaries and discipline.

I personally don't agree with the author's conclusions. And I am absolutely one who "over-indulges" my girls...probably a good thing I don't have kids too!!

Ashley V · 01-11-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Parises

I think the author was drawing a correlation between over-indulgence and bad behavior. The extensive wardrobes is a symptom of over-indulgence....lack of rules, boundaries and discipline.

I personally don't agree with the author's conclusions. And I am absolutely one who "over-indulges" my girls...probably a good thing I don't have kids too!!

lol I still don't see the correlation. Just because someone over indulges in their dogs clothes doesn't mean they don't give their dogs rules, boundaries, and discipline. *sigh* Too each their own. I definitely understand the article being about those big dogs with double coats and fur, but our little ones have extremely thin HAIR and only one layer. And their little bodies... they get cold so easily. A sweater or a coat certainly does not hurt them. And my dogs aren't any worse behaved in a sweater than they are naked.

Cinq1964 · 01-11-2009, 08:10 AM

All I can say is "whatever". The once every ten year snow here, Nolee was shivering with his lil coat on. I do agree, some dogs don't need clothing, but our lil yorkies sure do!

Shelby&Seymour · 01-11-2009, 08:13 AM

I am NOT a dog expert, but I do know that when we get out our go-fetch pj's in the evening, Shelbs & Sey come running and actually poke their heads in the collars of them without a second thought. They LOVE to be toasty warm in the evening and they sleep like ROCKS....... nice and warm.

chachi · 01-11-2009, 08:15 AM

I havent noticed any behavior difference from mine when they are dressed or not dressed

phfgkl · 01-11-2009, 09:09 AM

I only dress one, and you know, she does act differently when she has a dress on, she gets more obnoxious now that I think of it, I never put the connection between the 2.

QuickSilver · 01-11-2009, 10:14 AM

I'm sorry, but if I am feeding, housing and picking up poop for the dog, he can wear a cute jacket for me. Also, I really don't think dogs experience social embarrassment the way people do. I can see the point of clothing being uncomfortable, but a dog does not care how "stupid" it looks. That's part of the joy of dogs! Thinking otherwise is MASSIVE projection of human experience onto another animal.

Also, when dogs get too hot, don't they, you know, pant? I'd think anyone with sense would take a jacket off a dog that's panting.

browniesmom622 · 01-11-2009, 10:26 AM

This is the most stupid thing I've heard, Maybe they should start writing articles about people leaving there dogs outside in the cold or puppymills,animals being ABUSED,Petstore's. No they have to pick on people that put coat's on there dog's in the COLD.

JenniferLeigh · 01-11-2009, 10:27 AM

related article: Animal Rights - Change.org: From the Experts: Stop Dressing Up Dogs; To the Experts: Stop Saying "It"

From what I understand dressing up your dog can mask important smells that other dogs pick up on. I've seen dressed up dogs at the dog park - seems like they are always the ones to get picked on! :P

I don't dress up Lexi, she doesn't like it too much. It get's pretty cold here, but like I've said before in other threads. She doesn't mind the cold!

If she did mind the cold - I wouldn't hesitate on putting on her sweater.

phfgkl · 01-11-2009, 10:36 AM

Dogs do get embarrassed in their own way. When I used to first put clothes on Tootsie, if she were on the couch, she would turn her back to me and wouldn't even look at me. When Mom had to start putting a belly band on her older dog before he died, if she called them his diaper, he would go sit in the corner and pout, so, when she changed it to your big boys pants, then he was okay with that. Dogs are funny and do get embarrassed in their own way.

01-11-2009, 06:17 AM	#1
veganlass Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: sussex england Posts: 67	Dog experts get hot under the collar About dog coats. Animal welfare experts hot under the collar over dogs in coats - Telegraph Well yes but what do I do with two shivering cold dogs, when their is -6c outside for their walks?.

01-11-2009, 07:09 AM	#4
Ashley V ♥ Chip ♥ Smokey ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Leesburg Posts: 3,835	Someone please explain to me how a dog sweater, coat, shirt... whatever... can lead to bad behavior? I understand that definitely most dogs don't need the extra layers, but our precious little yorkies do in cold weather! __________________ ~~ Chip ~~ Smokey ~*~ My heart is wrapped around their little paws Karley Marissa born 1/20/12 weighing 8 lbs 11 oz and 21.5 inches long

01-11-2009, 08:10 AM	#8
Cinq1964 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,255 Blog Entries: 2	All I can say is "whatever". The once every ten year snow here, Nolee was shivering with his lil coat on. I do agree, some dogs don't need clothing, but our lil yorkies sure do! __________________ Doggie Blankets $10 with shipping! cinq1964.webs.com

01-11-2009, 08:13 AM	#9
Shelby&Seymour "& Seeger, too" Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 5,169	I am NOT a dog expert, but I do know that when we get out our go-fetch pj's in the evening, Shelbs & Sey come running and actually poke their heads in the collars of them without a second thought. They LOVE to be toasty warm in the evening and they sleep like ROCKS....... nice and warm. __________________ Happy Fall Y'all! 🎃

01-11-2009, 08:15 AM	#10
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	I havent noticed any behavior difference from mine when they are dressed or not dressed __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

01-11-2009, 06:24 AM	#2
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	It does say there are exceptions for small dogs with thin coats. I tend to asgree, it is over done, and mainly done for the people and not the dog.

01-11-2009, 09:09 AM	#11
phfgkl BANNED! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,376	I only dress one, and you know, she does act differently when she has a dress on, she gets more obnoxious now that I think of it, I never put the connection between the 2.

01-11-2009, 10:14 AM	#12
QuickSilver Thor's Human Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,929 Blog Entries: 31	I'm sorry, but if I am feeding, housing and picking up poop for the dog, he can wear a cute jacket for me. Also, I really don't think dogs experience social embarrassment the way people do. I can see the point of clothing being uncomfortable, but a dog does not care how "stupid" it looks. That's part of the joy of dogs! Thinking otherwise is MASSIVE projection of human experience onto another animal. Also, when dogs get too hot, don't they, you know, pant? I'd think anyone with sense would take a jacket off a dog that's panting.

01-11-2009, 10:26 AM	#13
browniesmom622 Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ny Posts: 11,253 Blog Entries: 5	This is the most stupid thing I've heard, Maybe they should start writing articles about people leaving there dogs outside in the cold or puppymills,animals being ABUSED,Petstore's. No they have to pick on people that put coat's on there dog's in the COLD. __________________ We Love our Yt Angel! My Website< > FB page

01-11-2009, 10:27 AM	#14
JenniferLeigh YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Calgary Posts: 357 Blog Entries: 1	related article: Animal Rights - Change.org: From the Experts: Stop Dressing Up Dogs; To the Experts: Stop Saying "It" From what I understand dressing up your dog can mask important smells that other dogs pick up on. I've seen dressed up dogs at the dog park - seems like they are always the ones to get picked on! :P I don't dress up Lexi, she doesn't like it too much. It get's pretty cold here, but like I've said before in other threads. She doesn't mind the cold! If she did mind the cold - I wouldn't hesitate on putting on her sweater.

01-11-2009, 10:36 AM	#15
phfgkl BANNED! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,376	Dogs do get embarrassed in their own way. When I used to first put clothes on Tootsie, if she were on the couch, she would turn her back to me and wouldn't even look at me. When Mom had to start putting a belly band on her older dog before he died, if she called them his diaper, he would go sit in the corner and pout, so, when she changed it to your big boys pants, then he was okay with that. Dogs are funny and do get embarrassed in their own way.