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teamyorkie · 10-20-2008, 08:39 PM

hi everyone, i just want to warn you that this post might be a bit long, but i truly need your opinions and words of guidance. so if you have the time, please advise.

about three month ago, my boyfriend posted up a thread on yorkietalk.com. the thread was about our missing yorkie and how eventually it got stolen. ill give a brief overview so you guys will have a better understanding.

our yorkie ran away when one of our roommates forgot to close the front door. he had a dog tag but wasn't microchipped. the dog tag had his name and our phone number. when he went missing a private number called us and told us they were going to give him back to us after they got off work (which was 5 or 6). i asked for their number several time but they would change the subject and asked me to describe my dog. they were very reluctant. on the third attempt for their number, they hung up on me. when 5 o clock came, i heard absolutely nothing. no calls. NOTHING. the day after, my boyfriend i went to the police station and filed a report. it has been about three months since our yorkie went missing.

today, is my birthday. and out of the blue the detective called us and told us that they had a present! we came there and found out that our yorkie was found and they had him!

i was soooooo happy and was hysterical!

but this is where the sad part came in. the detective told us that the person who took our yorkie, gave them away to their friend and their friend's family has gotten extremely attach to him. the person that took our yorkie ruined two lives, ours (when we lost him, and i was an emotional wreck) and the family that was innocently involved (the family had a little boy that grew very attach to my yorkie and rename him).

we are very happy and grateful that we have him back. that alone was the best birthday gift possible. but here is the question. i want to press charges. i want them to accept the consequences to their actions. but i dont know if i should. or should i let it go? but if i let it go, will the police department do something? i want them to understand that they CANNOT do this ever, ever, ever, again. i would never wish this upon anyone. i was devastated, heart-broken, stress and could barely eat, for three months because of this.

please, i just need some guidance.

Coco Pebbles · 10-21-2008, 01:10 AM

First of all let me say congratulations on getting him back. I know from experience how awful those three months were for you.

How did the police end up getting your dog? Did the friend's family turn him in or did the person who found him? Did you ever find out who was the original person was that had your dog?

In regards to pressing charges... I don't know if it's worth it to you personally to go after them. I'm just thinking what a horrible 3 months you have already had and what you would have to put yourself threw if you pressed charges and go threw the whole legal process. They can be very long and drawn out not to mention could be costly to you.

I guess your first step would be to see if the police intend do press any charges. If not, find out what legal stance you have. Then make your decision at this point.

Please keep us informed.

alaskayorkie · 10-21-2008, 01:25 AM

My initial reaction is, yes, press charges against the person who took the dog. They stole him every bit as much as if they'd taken him out of your home.

But Coco Pebbles brings up a good point. Is it worth more heartache for you? It might be tough to prove. They could just say they found the dog, he didn't have a collar and they never called you.

But if you think you have enough on them to nail them, I'd say go for it. They put you through hell.

Congratulations on getting him back. I can't imagine how excited you must be. Too bad about the innocent party, but that's what happens when you adopt a dog from someone under shady circumstances.

yorkieisme · 10-21-2008, 02:13 AM

I would leave it alone.........you did get him back, and that is great. I'm surprised that a detective spent time on a case for a missing pooch, when they rarely spend the time on a missing person. Thank the police and the other "owners" for taking care of him.

Now for the people, you did say he ran away, and they could say they found him which is the truth.....so I don't think it is stealing. I think they took on the "finders keepers" rule. This is ethical decision played on people everyday.

Julie

Wabbit · 10-21-2008, 02:41 AM

I absolutely feel that they STOLE your little dog! They called you and spoke to you about your yorkie and then hung up never planning on returning him!!!

I would press charges! Talk to the police and see what all is involved and then decide if you want to go through with it!!! But I would definately consider pressing charges. Not on the people that the pup was given too. The ones that kept it in the first place!!

Good luck!

TeresaM · 10-21-2008, 06:20 AM

Would I prosecute? Absolutely!!! What they did was not only wrong, it's illegal. And like you said to 2 families were hurt because of it. Just because they didn't take your dog from your home does not mean they didn't steal it. Any time you have something that is not yours, you know who it belongs to and keep it, it's stealing.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Criminals count on the average person to not prosecute, they play the odds and more times then not win. How do you think our society got into the mess it's in right now? People think they have rights to things that aren't theirs. And good people simply look the other way. If these people get away with this, what is to stop them from doing something similar again? Who might be their next victim? Do they have kids? What lesson is it teaching their kids? That doing whatever you want is ok as long as you don't get caught? Because even if you do get caught chances are really good that you won't be punished for it. If they get into trouble for this, it may be enough to give them pause if they ever think about not doing the right thing again.

It ultimately is your discission and I can understand how you simply want to put this whole thing behind you, but please don't base your discission on just wanting to forget the whole horrible ordeal. Perhaps some additional information from the detective would help you to make the discission. And I also must say that whatever you decide to do, no one else should judge you for it. Only you can decide what is best for your well being. I am very happy that you have your puppy back and hope for a long and uneventful life with him.

JCarlson2004 · 10-21-2008, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TeresaM

Would I prosecute? Absolutely!!! What they did was not only wrong, it's illegal. And like you said to 2 families were hurt because of it. Just because they didn't take your dog from your home does not mean they didn't steal it. Any time you have something that is not yours, you know who it belongs to and keep it, it's stealing.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Criminals count on the average person to not prosecute, they play the odds and more times then not win. How do you think our society got into the mess it's in right now? People think they have rights to things that aren't theirs. And good people simply look the other way. If these people get away with this, what is to stop them from doing something similar again? Who might be their next victim? Do they have kids? What lesson is it teaching their kids? That doing whatever you want is ok as long as you don't get caught? Because even if you do get caught chances are really good that you won't be punished for it. If they get into trouble for this, it may be enough to give them pause if they ever think about not doing the right thing again.

It ultimately is your discission and I can understand how you simply want to put this whole thing behind you, but please don't base your discission on just wanting to forget the whole horrible ordeal. Perhaps some additional information from the detective would help you to make the discission. And I also must say that whatever you decide to do, no one else should judge you for it. Only you can decide what is best for your well being. I am very happy that you have your puppy back and hope for a long and uneventful life with him.

I agree.

I'm so happy you got your dog back! I can't even imagine how you must have suffered for those 3 months. God bless you and your little one.

Cherylt8 · 10-21-2008, 06:58 AM

Glad to hear you have your yorkie back with you. I IMO would probably leave it alone and thank your lucky stars for how it turned out... But... I would rather call my Vet and make immediate arrangements to get your Yorkie Micro chipped to settle your nerves! Again I say in my own opinion... I know I would feel a little better knowing this in done.. just in case it ever happens again. Glad it is all right now!

Ladymom · 10-21-2008, 07:03 AM

Absolutely press charges! If that person had stolen your purse or car, you would, right? What's to stop this person from stealing someone else's dog unless he faces criminal charges? Please don't let another family go through the same heartbreak.

Lexi Rae · 10-21-2008, 07:09 AM

im so happy too that you got your baby back.. i would of just lost it and
went to pieces.. i would definetly go after them.. for sure

chattiesmom · 10-21-2008, 07:15 AM

I am so very happy that your little one is home safe and sound.

Without a doubt I would persue legal charges and hope that the jury/judge will find the slimebag who took your baby guilty and give them the max sentence. If you break the law you should pay the consequences. And if citizens like yourself aren't willing to "do their duty" and press charges, then criminals get the green light to continue stealing.

It's time that honest people stand up for what is right. GO AFTER THE ___________ (you fill in the blank) who took your baby.

teamyorkie · 10-21-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Coco Pebbles

First of all let me say congratulations on getting him back. I know from experience how awful those three months were for you.

How did the police end up getting your dog? Did the friend's family turn him in or did the person who found him? Did you ever find out who was the original person was that had your dog?

In regards to pressing charges... I don't know if it's worth it to you personally to go after them. I'm just thinking what a horrible 3 months you have already had and what you would have to put yourself threw if you pressed charges and go threw the whole legal process. They can be very long and drawn out not to mention could be costly to you.

I guess your first step would be to see if the police intend do press any charges. If not, find out what legal stance you have. Then make your decision at this point.

Please keep us informed.

when we filed the police report, we told them EVERYTHING. we gave them our phone records and told them exactly when the blocked number called us. the detective got a warrant out for the number and a warrant out for the address. the detective didnt give us that much details. i dont know why, but i respect her for that.

however, coincidently.. when we were there picking up our baby, the person who took our dog called the detective and spoke to her. i was trying to ease-drop there conversation (i know i shouldnt have but i was so upset still) and overheard that the police drove two hours to their house to question them and they lied the first time they got question! they detective told them they were lucky that were not pressing charges and that we only wanted our yorkie back. but the odd thing is, we never discussed about that to the detective. whether or not we were going to press charges. so, i felt a bit uneasy.. if i did go into the *not-pressing-charges* route, i want to be reassured that the police will punish them.

when the detective gave us back our dog, they gave family 2 phone number to us as well. family 2 told the detective to give us their number, just in case we would ever want to give our baby away that they would take him in. We did call them and thank them for taking good care of our baby and that were very apologetic for the inconvinience/unhappiness it brought to the family. we found out that the person who took our bbay was a co-worker of family 2 and thats how they were linked together.

now my question is, will the police do something.. if we take the forgiving route? and if they dont then i really want to consider pressing charges.

thank you for all your guidance and advice.

teamyorkie · 10-21-2008, 07:51 AM

oh, and were going to get him microchipped. i am not going to allow this to happen agaiin.

TLC · 10-21-2008, 08:20 AM

This is a very Happy and Sad moment.

This situation has left 2 families both Happy and Sad ~ If you let this go, the person that stole could steal again, bringing more Sadness to others...

I say press charges, people need to be held accountable for their actions.

P.S. Tell family #2 to check out Pet adoption: Want a dog or cat? Adopt a pet on Petfinder ~ As there are lots and lots of Yorkies (as well as other breeds) that need loving homes....

Best Wishes ~ So happy he is home

VickiG · 10-21-2008, 08:39 AM

If someone took one of my babies they would have h*ll to pay. I would not rest until they paid for what they did. So glad you got your baby back.

10-20-2008, 08:39 PM	#1
teamyorkie YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca, USA Posts: 5	i really need your help. hi everyone, i just want to warn you that this post might be a bit long, but i truly need your opinions and words of guidance. so if you have the time, please advise. about three month ago, my boyfriend posted up a thread on yorkietalk.com. the thread was about our missing yorkie and how eventually it got stolen. ill give a brief overview so you guys will have a better understanding. our yorkie ran away when one of our roommates forgot to close the front door. he had a dog tag but wasn't microchipped. the dog tag had his name and our phone number. when he went missing a private number called us and told us they were going to give him back to us after they got off work (which was 5 or 6). i asked for their number several time but they would change the subject and asked me to describe my dog. they were very reluctant. on the third attempt for their number, they hung up on me. when 5 o clock came, i heard absolutely nothing. no calls. NOTHING. the day after, my boyfriend i went to the police station and filed a report. it has been about three months since our yorkie went missing. today, is my birthday. and out of the blue the detective called us and told us that they had a present! we came there and found out that our yorkie was found and they had him! i was soooooo happy and was hysterical! but this is where the sad part came in. the detective told us that the person who took our yorkie, gave them away to their friend and their friend's family has gotten extremely attach to him. the person that took our yorkie ruined two lives, ours (when we lost him, and i was an emotional wreck) and the family that was innocently involved (the family had a little boy that grew very attach to my yorkie and rename him). we are very happy and grateful that we have him back. that alone was the best birthday gift possible. but here is the question. i want to press charges. i want them to accept the consequences to their actions. but i dont know if i should. or should i let it go? but if i let it go, will the police department do something? i want them to understand that they CANNOT do this ever, ever, ever, again. i would never wish this upon anyone. i was devastated, heart-broken, stress and could barely eat, for three months because of this. please, i just need some guidance.

10-21-2008, 01:25 AM	#3
alaskayorkie Banning Thread Dictator Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anchorage Posts: 30,843 Blog Entries: 57	My initial reaction is, yes, press charges against the person who took the dog. They stole him every bit as much as if they'd taken him out of your home. But Coco Pebbles brings up a good point. Is it worth more heartache for you? It might be tough to prove. They could just say they found the dog, he didn't have a collar and they never called you. But if you think you have enough on them to nail them, I'd say go for it. They put you through hell. Congratulations on getting him back. I can't imagine how excited you must be. Too bad about the innocent party, but that's what happens when you adopt a dog from someone under shady circumstances. __________________ Mike ~ Doting Dad to Jillie, Harper, Molly, Cooper, Eddie (RIP), Lucy (RIP), Rusty (RIP) and Jack (RIP). Check us out on YouTube

10-21-2008, 02:13 AM	#4
yorkieisme No Longer a Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: berea, ky Posts: 417	Well I would leave it alone.........you did get him back, and that is great. I'm surprised that a detective spent time on a case for a missing pooch, when they rarely spend the time on a missing person. Thank the police and the other "owners" for taking care of him. Now for the people, you did say he ran away, and they could say they found him which is the truth.....so I don't think it is stealing. I think they took on the "finders keepers" rule. This is ethical decision played on people everyday. Julie

10-21-2008, 02:41 AM	#5
Wabbit Love my little flowers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In Gorgeous Montana!!! Posts: 4,499	I absolutely feel that they STOLE your little dog! They called you and spoke to you about your yorkie and then hung up never planning on returning him!!! I would press charges! Talk to the police and see what all is involved and then decide if you want to go through with it!!! But I would definately consider pressing charges. Not on the people that the pup was given too. The ones that kept it in the first place!! Good luck! __________________ Tam Flower babies: *Daizy Mae and Tulip Petals* RIP Honey Rose & Jasmine

10-21-2008, 06:20 AM	#6
TeresaM Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TX Posts: 3,358	Would I prosecute? Absolutely!!! What they did was not only wrong, it's illegal. And like you said to 2 families were hurt because of it. Just because they didn't take your dog from your home does not mean they didn't steal it. Any time you have something that is not yours, you know who it belongs to and keep it, it's stealing. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Criminals count on the average person to not prosecute, they play the odds and more times then not win. How do you think our society got into the mess it's in right now? People think they have rights to things that aren't theirs. And good people simply look the other way. If these people get away with this, what is to stop them from doing something similar again? Who might be their next victim? Do they have kids? What lesson is it teaching their kids? That doing whatever you want is ok as long as you don't get caught? Because even if you do get caught chances are really good that you won't be punished for it. If they get into trouble for this, it may be enough to give them pause if they ever think about not doing the right thing again. It ultimately is your discission and I can understand how you simply want to put this whole thing behind you, but please don't base your discission on just wanting to forget the whole horrible ordeal. Perhaps some additional information from the detective would help you to make the discission. And I also must say that whatever you decide to do, no one else should judge you for it. Only you can decide what is best for your well being. I am very happy that you have your puppy back and hope for a long and uneventful life with him. __________________ If you think dogs can't count, put 3 biscuits in your pocket, then give him only 2. Gracie Ruth & Boo & Yogi & RIP Annie B. & Bonnie Lane

10-21-2008, 01:10 AM	#2
Coco Pebbles Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 78	First of all let me say congratulations on getting him back. I know from experience how awful those three months were for you. How did the police end up getting your dog? Did the friend's family turn him in or did the person who found him? Did you ever find out who was the original person was that had your dog? In regards to pressing charges... I don't know if it's worth it to you personally to go after them. I'm just thinking what a horrible 3 months you have already had and what you would have to put yourself threw if you pressed charges and go threw the whole legal process. They can be very long and drawn out not to mention could be costly to you. I guess your first step would be to see if the police intend do press any charges. If not, find out what legal stance you have. Then make your decision at this point. Please keep us informed.

10-21-2008, 06:58 AM	#8
Cherylt8 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: White City Canada Posts: 212	Glad to hear you have your yorkie back with you. I IMO would probably leave it alone and thank your lucky stars for how it turned out... But... I would rather call my Vet and make immediate arrangements to get your Yorkie Micro chipped to settle your nerves! Again I say in my own opinion... I know I would feel a little better knowing this in done.. just in case it ever happens again. Glad it is all right now! __________________ Life would not be the same without a fur ball like Mandy

10-21-2008, 07:03 AM	#9
Ladymom Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 8,317	Absolutely press charges! If that person had stolen your purse or car, you would, right? What's to stop this person from stealing someone else's dog unless he faces criminal charges? Please don't let another family go through the same heartbreak. __________________ http://www.myladysdogbows.com/ http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref...6213341?ref=nf

10-21-2008, 07:09 AM	#10
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	im so happy too that you got your baby back.. i would of just lost it and went to pieces.. i would definetly go after them.. for sure __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...

10-21-2008, 07:15 AM	#11
chattiesmom Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 17,674	I am so very happy that your little one is home safe and sound. Without a doubt I would persue legal charges and hope that the jury/judge will find the slimebag who took your baby guilty and give them the max sentence. If you break the law you should pay the consequences. And if citizens like yourself aren't willing to "do their duty" and press charges, then criminals get the green light to continue stealing. It's time that honest people stand up for what is right. GO AFTER THE ___________ (you fill in the blank) who took your baby. __________________ Silk Step-In Harnesses www.foxypups.etsy.com

10-21-2008, 07:51 AM	#13
teamyorkie YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca, USA Posts: 5	oh, and were going to get him microchipped. i am not going to allow this to happen agaiin.

10-21-2008, 08:20 AM	#14
TLC Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 7,247	This is a very Happy and Sad moment. This situation has left 2 families both Happy and Sad ~ If you let this go, the person that stole could steal again, bringing more Sadness to others... I say press charges, people need to be held accountable for their actions. P.S. Tell family #2 to check out Pet adoption: Want a dog or cat? Adopt a pet on Petfinder ~ As there are lots and lots of Yorkies (as well as other breeds) that need loving homes.... Best Wishes ~ So happy he is home __________________ Adopt Donate Foster www.yorkie911rescue.com

10-21-2008, 08:39 AM	#15
VickiG YT Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sewell, NJ Posts: 373	If someone took one of my babies they would have h*ll to pay. I would not rest until they paid for what they did. So glad you got your baby back.