a breeder of Tiny yorkies

[feminvstr]

If I were in search of a tiny I would sooner buy from a breeder that purposely breeds smaller rather than someone own accidently had a runt and decided the price should triple because of size.

I talked to Yorkmont the other day for quiet awhile, she is very sweet, knowledgable and willing to talk the night away conversing about yorkies, breeding all sizes and shapes and showing.

She purposely breeds small not by bringing down her stock but breeding into the tinier lines. Therefore she intimately knows her past pedigrees when it come to health, genetics and size there are no surprises. She does it with great care and keeps her babies up to a year (if needed) before she will place them. She explains she has a long process that must be followed when adopting one of her kids including she sends a 200 page care package!! Yikes!!! Her pricing for the tinies start at $3000. She breeds the look of a yorkshire terrier not the flavor of the month.

http://www.yorkmontyorkshireterriers...atid=13&gid=99

[red98vett]

I liked your post - I'm not saying THIS breeder – but, the breeders I see on the net are capitalizing on smaller sizes....

Your friend sounds great - keeping them up to a year justifies a higher price….and care packages are a wonderful way to ensure a good homecoming - She sounds like she is one of those breeders that really DO love the breed.....I commend her for her care and love for yorkies.

I have a feeling there are so many new breeders out there who don’t go that extra mile with their small yorkies …..how would one even know when a breeder is actually tripling the price of a runt just due to it's size ? Most breeders will not share that information would they ? wouldn't they just say it's smaller therefor more expensive ?

[shelbysmom]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I liked your post - I'm not saying THIS breeder – but, the breeders I see on the net are capitalizing on smaller sizes....

Your friend sounds great - keeping them up to a year justifies a higher price….and care packages are a wonderful way to ensure a good homecoming - She sounds like she is one of those breeders that really DO love the breed.....I commend her for her care and love for yorkies.

I have a feeling there are so many new breeders out there who don’t go that extra mile with their small yorkies …..how would one even know when a breeder is actually tripling the price of a runt just due to it's size ? Most breeders will not share that information would they ? wouldn't they just say it's smaller therefor more expensive ?

yes, some of them do. One breeder I saw sold her tiny Yorkies for twice as much as her standards(1500. vs. 3500 up) and she said it's because they are tiny. (at least she was honest about that part) Her runt of that litter was $10,000.

The problem with someone trying to get tiny is they have runts too! Try for standard and you may get a 2.5-3.lb runt. Try for the 3lb. and the runts are REALLY small.

There are as many types of breeders as there are appearances in Yorkies. Everyone needs to do their homework, be ready to ask questions and decide what is ethical for them. Even breeders who share breeding stock do not always agree.

[Brittie123]

As the owner of two "tinies" I can give my experience on having one on each end of the spectrum...my first was Mia. I got her a year ago not having any idea how small she would be...to be honest I didn't know she was considered small for a yorkie puppy until my vet commented on her first checkup. Her breeder bred specifically for tinies, her mother was 3 lbs and her father was 2 lbs, which is just crazy now that I have learned more about breeding. She continues to have several health problems that will stay with her for her entire life because of her small size and because she was purposely bred to be tiny. While I love her, I am very lucky that I can afford to properly care for her because I have had to pay thousands (not kidding) at emergency vets and have talked to other owners of tiny yorkies who have had similar experiences.

So a year later I wanted another smaller yorkie since Mia is so fragile and I didn't want to risk her getting hurt by the new baby. After looking for a long time I found a YTCA breeder that had a litter of standard yorkies and Emmy was in that litter. She was obviously going to be smaller than the others, and the breeder felt since I had a lot of experience with all of Mia's troubles that I would be a good home for Emmy. She has not had one problem (she's almost 6 months old) not even hypoglycemia which tinies are known to have for their entire life not just puppyhood.

I am convinced after talking to other owners of tinies, both from breeders who bred them specifically to be tiny as well as responsible breeders who threw a tiny in a litter of standards, that the difference in health is due to the breeders I got them from. You can bash the YTCA all you want to but breeders who breed responsible for the standard yorkies do get the occasional tinies in their litter, they cannot help it. It happens. The late Terri Shumsky told me once that small yorkies less than 3.5 lbs as adults occur in about 20% of standard breeder's litters.

If you know all of the risks and the troubles you will have with a tiny, as well as the financial obligations, and you still want one, then IMO the best way to find one is speak to several YTCA breeders, let them know why you want what you want, get on waiting lists (there will be a wait), and the right one will come your way. I realize it is hard to pass by all the other breeders who always have tinies and they look so cute, but believe me it will be worth it to wait for a responsible breeder to have your puppy. Good breeding is priceless, and actually since YTCA breeders are usually breeding for show and not for profit you can get a healthier dog for less money.

[PinkMartini]

Originally Posted by Brittie123

Good breeding is priceless, and actually since YTCA breeders are usually breeding for show and not for profit you can get a healthier dog for less money.

I couldn't agree more

[troubletb]

I like this thread, A lot of good sense was posted here. When I breed my Bell, and yes it was my first breeding of many I hope. I breed for standard, 5-7 lbs. I wanted another female that had the same qualities that my first female has, with a few better ones.
I first wanted one a bit smaller than Bell, who is 8lbs so I breed her with a 5lb male. I wanted to try to thicken her coat, because she is cottony, He had a more wire/silk coat. Hopefully I have produced good pups, They are healthy and right now look great... But wouldn't you figure it that every time someone wants to inquire about them ...They want a tiny!!

But within my litter of three I have a much smaller one, But I could never sell him as tiny, becasue who really knows how big or small he will be when he is done growing..

[feminvstr]

so tell me something please...if my average adult size pup is 3.5-5.5 lbs depending on whom Ive bred. Within that breeding I had a female runt for $3000 would anyone of you be interested in paying that amount?? Would any of you bust me for it knowing my top price usually far below that...Would you think any less of me as a breeder if I merely price this puppy for its lack of size, because its what the market will bare!

just curious!!

please answer truthfully

[PinkMartini]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

so tell me something please...if my average adult size pup is 3.5-5.5 lbs depending on whom Ive bred. Within that breeding I had a female runt for $3000 would anyone of you be interested in paying that amount?? Would any of you bust me for it knowing my top price usually far below that...Would you think any less of me as a breeder if I merely price this puppy for its lack of size, because its what the market will bare!

just curious!!

please answer truthfully

Honestly no, I wouldn't pay $3000 for a runt of the litter. I would personally NEVER want the runt or a 'tiny' yorkie because of the health issues they usually have. And yes, I would think it un-ethical for you to jack up the price of a 'tiny' just because.

[CC's]

I just sent home a tiny girl. I had to charge more for her due to higher expenses.

I tube/bottle fed her for the first month of life. She saw the vet more than once, had all her puppy shots, Patella's checked, bile acid test. She had no open font, not 1 hypoglycemia episode, good appetite, spunky and very nice quality.

She went home with her crate, book on yorkies, blanket, washable piddle pads, bag of food and roll too, treats, chew bone, toys and her harness and leash. I had to get her a ferret harness she was to small for any others.

I waited until she was 1.5 pounds and 6 months old before I let her go. She may get to 2-2.5 pounds as an adult.

She was $1500 and worth every penny. I'm not sue I could justify upwards of $3000 to myself for a pet quality (non-breeding contract) unless more screenings were run.

She may have been a runt. It doesn't make any difference if they are bred that way on purpose or not, as long as they are health screen properly before being sent home.

My pups are priced as pets. Male or female, size, shape or face, doesn't effect the cost or time I put into my pups or their parents. Most of the time my pups are all the same price. I don't price for "suppy and demand", but what I need to be able to stay into the world of breeding yorkies without cutting corners.

[jesscruz]

Originally Posted by CC's

I just sent home a tiny girl. I had to charge more for her due to higher expenses.

I tube/bottle fed her for the first month of life. She saw the vet more than once, had all her puppy shots, Patella's checked, bile acid test. She had no open font, not 1 hypoglycemia episode, good appetite, spunky and very nice quality.

She went home with her crate, book on yorkies, blanket, washable piddle pads, bag of food and roll too, treats, chew bone, toys and her harness and leash. I had to get her a ferret harness she was to small for any others.

I waited until she was 1.5 pounds and 6 months old before I let her go. She may get to 2-2.5 pounds as an adult.

She was $1500 and worth every penny. I'm not sue I could justify upwards of $3000 to myself for a pet quality (non-breeding contract) unless more screenings were run.

She may have been a runt. It doesn't make any difference if they are bred that way on purpose or not, as long as they are health screen properly before being sent home.

My pups are priced as pets. Male or female, size, shape or face, doesn't effect the cost or time I put into my pups or their parents. Most of the time my pups are all the same price. I don't price for "suppy and demand", but what I need to be able to stay into the world of breeding yorkies without cutting corners.

good for you i think what you charged is fair!

[feminvstr]

CC kudos to you $1500 for all the testing and 6 month rearing is more than reasonable and much more than a buyer could ask for.

This is what I mean if we add in our extra expenses to raise a tiny gal/guy with all the vet testing and personal time and attention and still under $2000 its a fair price??? right???

I just got off the phone with a client that has adopted me as his advisor. He calls me on every pup he finds because he needs another one by friday for his wifes birthday present. Long story short he found one that is 10oz 9 weeks old, this is in Los Angeles, both parents on site...emailed me pictures which she is quite adorable but here is the deal breaker!!!

NO CONTRACT told him to walk out with his $2500 cash because she refuses to give him a 1 year health guarantee. She said the vet will tell you she is fine I dont need to sign anything! would you buy her anyway???

here is her picture and her mom

[CC's]

I expect breeders to be able to charge what they need to. I don't think they should have to go in debt to raise pups.

I also don't expect the pups to be the way they earn a living. Sorry I just think when it becomes your income you maybe tempted to cut the costs because mamma needs a new pair of shoes or something.

I would not pay $2500 for any pup that wasn't show quality and backed up by the breeder.

[red98vett]

Oh wow are they pretty ! Beautiful yorkie girls....I loved reading this thread and commend the good breeders out there...I know there are many good breeders on this site - reading these threads proves it.

[chachi]

I would pay more for a tiny if thats what I wanted. I have a smaller yorkie 4lbs and I paid about $400 more for her than my 7 lb yorkie.

[feminvstr]

chachi $400 is reasonable to ask for the smaller puppy but if one was selling a pup from the same litter at $950 and the other at $4000 what would justify the price difference??? and what would it take for you as a consumer to buy it??

just curious?