Beiwer vs Parti Color/Piebold Yorkie - YorkieTalk.com Forums

wnalegria · 07-23-2005, 03:46 PM

Which would you chose and why? Please help me make up my mind. I just found out that a little male that I have trying to sell (Reggie) has the gene for Parti-Color or PieBold.

Should I keep him and buy a Parti-female to breed him? Should I sell him and buy a male and female Beiwer. I keep going back and forth and could use some suggestions. My hubby is afraid of option c buy male and female Beiwer and a Parti-Color.

Please give me your suggestions.

babi1542 · 07-23-2005, 03:55 PM

I have no idea, but I am sure that someone else can tell you.
Good luck!

browniesmom622 · 07-23-2005, 04:51 PM

whats piebold gene ???

i think partis and biewers are very pretty !

wnalegria · 07-23-2005, 05:32 PM

The piebold and the Parti are the same just a different term for the same thing.

browniesmom622 · 07-23-2005, 05:36 PM

ahh ic lol

cookiemonster · 07-23-2005, 05:43 PM

I know the Parti-colors and Beiwers are different but what are the differences? This is a great post and I hope someone out there can help answer your questions.

troubletb · 07-23-2005, 05:50 PM

I don't really know much about Biewers, But if your boy has the gene, then why not keep him and get yourself a female. It would be cheaper.
Now did you have him tested for the gene? What did that cost? Are you planning on breeding Biewers?

feminvstr · 07-23-2005, 05:59 PM

this is where whisper can answer most of the parti/biewer questions

to check if your yorkie is a gene carrier is not by tests, simply turn him/her over...if they have a spotted belly called "ticking" he/she is a gene carrier (I recently learned the ticking term myself

Marie · 07-23-2005, 06:03 PM

If your pup has the gene I will say to keep him. How do you know your pup has the gene? I dont know anything about Beiwer and Particolors, Just that they are beautiful. I guess the people that breed them are more knowledgeable to answer your question. I will love to see a pic of your pup.

rnnw62 · 07-23-2005, 09:19 PM

I think that Reggie is adorable I saw him on a different post
so personally I would keep him and add a female to compliment
him and go in that direction for now. You can always add the
Biewers later on.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 07-23-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cookiemonster

I know the Parti-colors and Beiwers are different but what are the differences? This is a great post and I hope someone out there can help answer your questions.

I think Irene of Stellaryorkies, Whipsersmom2 or Yorkierose can answer your question but I believe to be a Biewer, they have to actually have come from the Biewer line which is a kennel in Germany that first developed the breed.

Here, they are now breeding for the Tri-color yorkie but it cannot be called a Biewer because it does not have the Biewer lineage. I think this is correct. Eventually, the two will probably merge and become the same but it may take a long time as things seem to change very slowly in the show dog world. I may be all wrong too.

feminvstr · 07-23-2005, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Here, they are now breeding for the Tri-color yorkie but it cannot be called a Biewer because it does not have the Biewer lineage. I think this is correct. Eventually, the two will probably merge and become the same but it may take a long time as things seem to change very slowly in the show dog world. I may be all wrong too.

Kim the Parti-color Yorkie was considered a mutant like the blue, red or chocolate AKC now recognizes them providing 4 pictures are submitted upon registration and I believe DNA proof of sire.

The Parti-color and the Biewer are both based on the piebald recessive gene.

This is from the biewer breed description. Ok Rose, Rini explain this please, is the biewer based on the same piebald gene or is it a cross between another breed (like a ****-zu or maltese)

"On January 20,1984 Gertrud and Werner Biewer bred the pair of Blue
and Gold Yorkshire Terrier that produced a new breed variation of
Yorkie." and this "The Biewer Yorkie originated in Germany in 1984 and was a piebald genetic recessive gene occurance offspring produced by Gertrud and Werner Biewer's Yorkshire Terriers. "

Lady of Yorkies · 07-23-2005, 11:41 PM

I'll throw my two cents in for what it's worth. It's my understanding that the Biewers have a set pattern. The piebalds and partis are just the colors random. Hope I have that right. Sylvia

b_veselka · 07-24-2005, 04:34 AM

You know already the wonderful qualities that Reggie has. I would keep him for sure. That would also save you the headache of searching for 2 new ones versus just one.

sylvan · 07-24-2005, 04:43 AM

The Parti-color and the Biewer are both based on the piebald recessive gene.

This is from the biewer breed description. Ok Rose, Rini explain this please, is the biewer based on the same piebald gene or is it a cross between another breed (like a ****-zu or maltese)

The Biewers are the same piebald gene, not a cross.--I'm being bold and answering for Pat and Rini, sheeesh ,oh and thanks for spelling correctly, my pet peeve.

07-23-2005, 03:46 PM	#1
wnalegria Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis Indiana Posts: 815	Beiwer vs Parti Color/Piebold Yorkie Which would you chose and why? Please help me make up my mind. I just found out that a little male that I have trying to sell (Reggie) has the gene for Parti-Color or PieBold. Should I keep him and buy a Parti-female to breed him? Should I sell him and buy a male and female Beiwer. I keep going back and forth and could use some suggestions. My hubby is afraid of option c buy male and female Beiwer and a Parti-Color. Please give me your suggestions.

07-23-2005, 03:55 PM	#2
babi1542 Double Trouble Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 4,658	I have no idea, but I am sure that someone else can tell you. Good luck! __________________ PEBBLES AND SASHA MY DOGS ARE NOT SPOILED...I'M JUST WELL TRAINED!

07-23-2005, 04:51 PM	#3
browniesmom622 Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ny Posts: 11,253 Blog Entries: 5	whats piebold gene ??? i think partis and biewers are very pretty ! __________________ We Love our Yt Angel! My Website< > FB page

07-23-2005, 05:36 PM	#5
browniesmom622 Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ny Posts: 11,253 Blog Entries: 5	ahh ic lol __________________ We Love our Yt Angel! My Website< > FB page

07-23-2005, 05:43 PM	#6
cookiemonster Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 134	I know the Parti-colors and Beiwers are different but what are the differences? This is a great post and I hope someone out there can help answer your questions. __________________ Sarah, Cookie & Peanut http://www.yorkietalk.com/gallery/sh...00&ppuser=3125

07-23-2005, 05:32 PM	#4
wnalegria Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis Indiana Posts: 815	The piebold and the Parti are the same just a different term for the same thing.

07-23-2005, 05:50 PM	#7
troubletb Love my Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 2,339	I don't really know much about Biewers, But if your boy has the gene, then why not keep him and get yourself a female. It would be cheaper. Now did you have him tested for the gene? What did that cost? Are you planning on breeding Biewers? __________________ Karen~ Bell, Lilly and Peter's Mom Rest in Peace <3

07-23-2005, 05:59 PM	#8
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	this is where whisper can answer most of the parti/biewer questions to check if your yorkie is a gene carrier is not by tests, simply turn him/her over...if they have a spotted belly called "ticking" he/she is a gene carrier (I recently learned the ticking term myself __________________ Kimberly

07-23-2005, 06:03 PM	#9
Marie Mom loves Gucci Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 6,427	If your pup has the gene I will say to keep him. How do you know your pup has the gene? I dont know anything about Beiwer and Particolors, Just that they are beautiful. I guess the people that breed them are more knowledgeable to answer your question. I will love to see a pic of your pup. __________________ Huggies, Gucci and Marie http://www.dogster.com/?132187 "I have been egged"

07-23-2005, 09:19 PM	#10
rnnw62 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,610	I think that Reggie is adorable I saw him on a different post so personally I would keep him and add a female to compliment him and go in that direction for now. You can always add the Biewers later on. __________________ Shelly, Teddy, Toby,Hanne & Indigo

07-23-2005, 11:41 PM	#13
Lady of Yorkies YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,562	I'll throw my two cents in for what it's worth. It's my understanding that the Biewers have a set pattern. The piebalds and partis are just the colors random. Hope I have that right. Sylvia

07-24-2005, 04:34 AM	#14
b_veselka Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Texas Posts: 307	You know already the wonderful qualities that Reggie has. I would keep him for sure. That would also save you the headache of searching for 2 new ones versus just one. __________________ Beth Veselka

07-24-2005, 04:43 AM	#15
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	The Parti-color and the Biewer are both based on the piebald recessive gene. This is from the biewer breed description. Ok Rose, Rini explain this please, is the biewer based on the same piebald gene or is it a cross between another breed (like a ****-zu or maltese) The Biewers are the same piebald gene, not a cross.--I'm being bold and answering for Pat and Rini, sheeesh ,oh and thanks for spelling correctly, my pet peeve.