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emilyann · 11-05-2007, 04:14 PM

How do you tell if someone is running a puppy mill? The place we bought Lilly from seems like one but I don't wanna go pointing fingers and not knowing what I'm talking about. It's really been bothering me though since I've joined here on YT and seen the different posts about them. Help someone?

SladesMommy · 11-05-2007, 04:19 PM

How clean was it kept?

How many breeds were they breeding?

Were the dogs outside in kennels?

emilyann · 11-05-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SladesMommy

How clean was it kept?

How many breeds were they breeding?

Were the dogs outside in kennels?

This is why it bothered me so much. It smelled horrible when we walked into the room where the puppies were kept. When we first got there the woman's husband took us down to this building and as soon as we started walking down there all kinds of (I'm guessing) larger dogs were outside in metal/wooden kennels and they all started barking like crazy. As soon as we got down to this building we went in and it was just like the room where she took pictures of them and everything then you walked through another door that was shut and you went into what was somewhat like a garage and all the puppies were in there in kennels side by side. Some of the puppies were even in the kennels together. There was poop and pee all in the floor underneath their kennels and some even had feces IN their kennel with them. They all started barking and going crazy as if they had never seen a human before (it was weird). She breeds an outrageous amount of different breeds and even breeds some of them crossed. She has a website but I'm scared to post it because I don't want someone e-mailing her or anything saying I'm on here asking about it. On her website though she has many different breeds listed.

Yorkies
Pomeranians
Pekignese
Pocket Puggles
Teddy Bear (1/2 Bichon Frise and 1/2 Shih-tzu)
Boston
Minature Dachshund
Chinese Sharpei
Bichon Frise
Malti-Puff (1/2 Maltese and 1/2 Chinese-Crested Powderpuffs)
Morkies (1/2 Maltese and 1/2 Yorkie)
Shih-tzu
Malti-tzu (Maltese and Shih-tzu)
Scottish Terrier

Sorry if the typing is wrong on some... I was looking on the website then clicking back over and typing them. I mean, I know she's obviously doing it for profit considering how they were kept and how many she breeds and considering there really isn't any other breeders around but still, something just doesn't seem right.

SladesMommy · 11-05-2007, 04:31 PM

Definitely sounds like a small scale puppy mill

Gazou · 11-05-2007, 04:34 PM

This place is 1000 % a puppymill .

hha · 11-05-2007, 04:34 PM

me too..just breaks my heart to think these babies have to live their lives like that...

drawlins27 · 11-05-2007, 04:38 PM

I'm surprised she let you pick up the puppy there instead of meeting you somewhere.

You should post as much info on this place as you can to warn others. They will never know who you are. You might even be able to help shut this place down

emilyann · 11-05-2007, 04:41 PM

So, now, what do I do? It's so scary doing this considering I live in such a small town but I want what's best for the puppies and it's bothering me way too much. Can you report her anon or what? I just don't understand how she has went on doing this for so long but in a way I can... considering no one around here really knows about these types of things. But I just don't understand how she's taken all of these dogs to the vet for shots and stuff and the vet doesn't know that it's wrong? This is the part that's making me 2nd guess myself.

emilyann · 11-05-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by drawlins27

I'm surprised she let you pick up the puppy there instead of meeting you somewhere.

You should post as much info on this place as you can to warn others. They will never know who you are. You might even be able to help shut this place down

Well, I pretty much think that has a lot to do with us living in such a small town and everything and no one ever really hearing of things like this.

emilyann · 11-05-2007, 04:43 PM

Her website is barbaraslittlefriendskennel.com

SladesMommy · 11-05-2007, 04:44 PM

I don't know if its this way everywhere, but here the Dept. of Ag are the ones that inspect breeder facilities

SladesMommy · 11-05-2007, 04:46 PM

here ya go, maybe this will hellp
http://www.stoppuppymills.org/freque..._my_area_How_c

dani23d · 11-05-2007, 04:47 PM

You should ask her to scan her CKC Certificate or find out what kennel name she is registered under with CKC. I don't know how they approved her if she has multiple breeds. Plus, she's only selling them for $600, which is quite cheap for a reputable breeder.

SladesMommy · 11-05-2007, 04:50 PM

those poor puppies. None of them looked happy and playful like puppies should.

Those Pei pups looked really sick.

SladesMommy · 11-05-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dani23d

You should ask her to scan her CKC Certificate or find out what kennel name she is registered under with CKC. I don't know how they approved her if she has multiple breeds. Plus, she's only selling them for $600, which is quite cheap for a reputable breeder.

I'd imagine that by CKC she means continental kennel club and they'll register anything.

11-05-2007, 04:14 PM	#1
emilyann Lovin' My LilBug! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,513	Puppy mills How do you tell if someone is running a puppy mill? The place we bought Lilly from seems like one but I don't wanna go pointing fingers and not knowing what I'm talking about. It's really been bothering me though since I've joined here on YT and seen the different posts about them. Help someone? __________________ love my lillybug! rags and ribbons!

11-05-2007, 04:19 PM	#2
SladesMommy Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATX Posts: 4,513	How clean was it kept? How many breeds were they breeding? Were the dogs outside in kennels? __________________ GIGANTIC DOG CLOTHES SALE!!! <--- CLlCK!

11-05-2007, 04:31 PM	#4
SladesMommy Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATX Posts: 4,513	Definitely sounds like a small scale puppy mill __________________ GIGANTIC DOG CLOTHES SALE!!! <--- CLlCK!

11-05-2007, 04:38 PM	#7
drawlins27 Mommy's Lil' Miracle Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mufreesboro, TN Posts: 1,028	I'm surprised she let you pick up the puppy there instead of meeting you somewhere. You should post as much info on this place as you can to warn others. They will never know who you are. You might even be able to help shut this place down __________________ I LOVE my little Furbutts!

11-05-2007, 04:41 PM	#8
emilyann Lovin' My LilBug! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,513	So, now, what do I do? It's so scary doing this considering I live in such a small town but I want what's best for the puppies and it's bothering me way too much. Can you report her anon or what? I just don't understand how she has went on doing this for so long but in a way I can... considering no one around here really knows about these types of things. But I just don't understand how she's taken all of these dogs to the vet for shots and stuff and the vet doesn't know that it's wrong? This is the part that's making me 2nd guess myself. __________________ love my lillybug! rags and ribbons!

11-05-2007, 04:34 PM	#5
Gazou YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,180	This place is 1000 % a puppymill .

11-05-2007, 04:34 PM	#6
hha No Longer a Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seneca, SC Posts: 2,837	me too..just breaks my heart to think these babies have to live their lives like that...

11-05-2007, 04:43 PM	#10
emilyann Lovin' My LilBug! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,513	Her website is barbaraslittlefriendskennel.com __________________ love my lillybug! rags and ribbons!

11-05-2007, 04:44 PM	#11
SladesMommy Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATX Posts: 4,513	I don't know if its this way everywhere, but here the Dept. of Ag are the ones that inspect breeder facilities __________________ GIGANTIC DOG CLOTHES SALE!!! <--- CLlCK!

11-05-2007, 04:46 PM	#12
SladesMommy Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATX Posts: 4,513	here ya go, maybe this will hellp http://www.stoppuppymills.org/freque..._my_area_How_c __________________ GIGANTIC DOG CLOTHES SALE!!! <--- CLlCK!

11-05-2007, 04:47 PM	#13
dani23d YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 560	You should ask her to scan her CKC Certificate or find out what kennel name she is registered under with CKC. I don't know how they approved her if she has multiple breeds. Plus, she's only selling them for $600, which is quite cheap for a reputable breeder.

11-05-2007, 04:50 PM	#14
SladesMommy Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATX Posts: 4,513	those poor puppies. None of them looked happy and playful like puppies should. Those Pei pups looked really sick. __________________ GIGANTIC DOG CLOTHES SALE!!! <--- CLlCK!