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BamaFan121s · 01-04-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRini

seriously, it does sould like it may help in a life or death situation.

Sure does...afterall, in a situation like that, what do you have to lose?

Although, I don't think that me potentially losing a pup and fighting for it's life would be one I'd want on camera...I know you are kidding though!

whispersmom2 · 01-04-2006, 10:05 AM

That was a good description. Sorry, I just didn't start back far enough to give the reasoning. One of my last babies was still born and I worked on her for 20 minutes at least. Warming, stimulating, suctioning. swinging, mouth to mouth and was ready to insert theacupuncture needle in the site between nose and upper lip to stimulate respirations.
I apologize for leaving some things out when I post. These things are obvious to me because I am a nurse and because I had such a great mentor early in my breeding. Thanx to any of you for filling in the blanks..

feminvstr · 01-04-2006, 10:10 AM

When I whelped Bella her first boy wasnt breathing, I aspirated then swung, got a labor breath at best I continued giving him mouth to mouth and swinging him as well as massaging his heart. I got a labor breath so I was determined to get this little man going and to my surprise about 15 mintues into it he reared his head and starting screaming at me! OK MOM I'm here!

If you get a labored breath within the first 5-6 minutes of birth you have hope, you may get "swimmers puppy" but in his case he was perfectly normal just a rough start welcoming the world!

whispersmom2 · 01-04-2006, 10:15 AM

Kimberly, isn't it the most wonderful feeling to feel a little squirm in the towel and then hear that yelping start? I LOVE it. My hubby looks at me doing mouth-to-mouth and I can just hear his mind saying "Yuk! Those lips won't touch mine for a while!"

feminvstr · 01-04-2006, 10:17 AM

this book is vital to me and I read it over and over again.

"Canine Reproduction" by Phyllis Holst, MS, DVM

it explains swinging puppy and much more, you should have it!

feminvstr · 01-04-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2

Kimberly, isn't it the most wonderful feeling to feel a little squirm in the towel and then hear that yelping start? I LOVE it. My hubby looks at me doing mouth-to-mouth and I can just hear his mind saying "Yuk! Those lips won't touch mine for a while!"

You know hon I still get chills thinking about it, it was such a wonderful experience, yet I hope to never to repeat it at least I know if they need a jump start I am ready willing and able to get'em going, if its meant to be!

yorkiemom1970 · 01-04-2006, 10:52 AM

I have definitley had to "sling" a puppy to get fluid out of it's lungs, air way. The first time I actually saw this done is when I was fairly young, working for a vet in my area when I got out of school. He was doing a c-sec on a litter of bostons and he taught me to do it. I must say I freaked at first, but so glad he taught me as it was useful to me later in life even though I didnt know at the time.

As for cutting cords, Irene, I use plain unwaxed dental floss.
When Courtney was at the vet being induced, she had one puppy while at the vet's office and they actually put a little stitch in that puppy's cord. It was really neat, and I would like to learn to do that but- would definitely take two people to do though, and since it's usually just me with no assistance when mine are born, that probably won't ever work for me.

troubletb · 01-04-2006, 04:30 PM

Bell has only had one litter and I used two clamps and surgical scissors, I have heard of the dental floss but didn't feel comfortable , because I have never seen it done that way. As far as slinging, I had to do that with Bell's first born, she was not breathing and between the soft sling and the warm towel rubs, she was breathing and crying in 20 seconds!!
Don't you find that if you stitch the cord, momma will end up ripping it out?? I don't do my own tails and the vet stitched them, and with in an hour Bell had all three out!!

YorkieRose · 01-04-2006, 04:39 PM

I use a clamp also..I leave it for perhaps 2 mins..I rarely find a need to tie it off. If I remove the clamp and there is any sign of blood, I reclamp for a couple more minutes.
You people already know how funny I am about things...I do not like any thread or floss..I do not want anything that can be dirty and cause an infection..this works for me.

txshopper73 · 01-05-2006, 12:13 PM

clamp and shred the remainder. Had to "swing" one pup with this litter. Tried to stimulate, suction fluids and just couldn't get pup to come around. Swung twice, rubbed and pup came to life.

Gracie started knawing on a chord again and there was a lot of blood. Got some 100% cotton thread and tied it off. No problem after that.

DevineMissM · 01-05-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2

Old nurse that I am, I clamp the cord and shred it with scissors..All sterilized. I find I have NO bleeding if I do it that way. When I have had to use suture material, I too, use unwaxed fine dental floss and the finest quilting needle if a small suture is needed for some reason...I am comfortable with this as is my vet. I do not recommend it is you are not experienced in these things. I am not suggesting you do it, either.

Me too this is exactly how I do the cords. NO thread for me. I find the mom chews it off. There is nothing worst than a agressive bitch who bites the cord too short. Then puppy bleeds excessively. So I clamp and shred the end of cord with very dull scissors.

And as for swinging the pup.....I do not do it! I'm always afraid of that poor pups brain slamming against his skull. That's just me. What I do is suck the fluids out with bulb, give mouth to mouth, massage the heart. If I begin to get just a bit of breathing and heartbeat the mom's next pup may be comming. So I keep a padded board with the whelp kit. I place the pup on board wrap vet wrap around him and stand him upside down. In only a minute or two minutes fluids will drain and he will start SCREAMING...which expands his lungs. And that's it emergency over. I unwrap and give him to his mom. She is usually busy with other pups so does not even notice.

topknot · 01-05-2006, 02:24 PM

I use clamps too. I clamp about an inch from the pup and then another clamp by the mom, then I use the dental floss to tie between the two clamps and cut between the floss and the clamp going to mom. I have had problems with my moms cutting the cords too short. (I lost a pup one time because of this and before I knew it the mom had a tear into his stomach.) I then take off the two clamps allowing me to check the pup, rub, etc...
I have also had to swing many a pup over the 25 years.
I was trained as a vet tech many moons ago before I had yorkies. People would bring in their litters when they came across trouble.
I have all my tools ready about a week before birthing and all towels, scissors, clamps - all sterilized. And keep packed up and sealed until its time.
T.

Candace_Chang · 01-21-2006, 11:28 PM

Just a question, my puppies has these little thing on their belly button when I got them from the vet ,I believe they cut the cord and left a little and tied with threads.....are those suppose to fall off? if so, when?
2 of my pups have theirs fall out already and it's only been 2 days...but there's not bleeding and they seem fine...I just want to know if it's ok...

topknot · 01-22-2006, 06:05 AM

Yes, this is fine. They were the cords that were attached to their mom. They are suppose to try up and fall off, just like real babies do.

T.

011011 · 01-22-2006, 06:24 AM

I have never tied cords either I always clamp and shred it. My vet told me to not tie them.

01-04-2006, 10:10 AM	#18
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	When I whelped Bella her first boy wasnt breathing, I aspirated then swung, got a labor breath at best I continued giving him mouth to mouth and swinging him as well as massaging his heart. I got a labor breath so I was determined to get this little man going and to my surprise about 15 mintues into it he reared his head and starting screaming at me! OK MOM I'm here! If you get a labored breath within the first 5-6 minutes of birth you have hope, you may get "swimmers puppy" but in his case he was perfectly normal just a rough start welcoming the world! __________________ Kimberly

01-04-2006, 10:17 AM	#20
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	this book is vital to me and I read it over and over again. "Canine Reproduction" by Phyllis Holst, MS, DVM it explains swinging puppy and much more, you should have it! __________________ Kimberly

01-04-2006, 04:30 PM	#23
troubletb Love my Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 2,339	Bell has only had one litter and I used two clamps and surgical scissors, I have heard of the dental floss but didn't feel comfortable , because I have never seen it done that way. As far as slinging, I had to do that with Bell's first born, she was not breathing and between the soft sling and the warm towel rubs, she was breathing and crying in 20 seconds!! Don't you find that if you stitch the cord, momma will end up ripping it out?? I don't do my own tails and the vet stitched them, and with in an hour Bell had all three out!! __________________ Karen~ Bell, Lilly and Peter's Mom Rest in Peace <3

01-04-2006, 04:39 PM	#24
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	cords I use a clamp also..I leave it for perhaps 2 mins..I rarely find a need to tie it off. If I remove the clamp and there is any sign of blood, I reclamp for a couple more minutes. You people already know how funny I am about things...I do not like any thread or floss..I do not want anything that can be dirty and cause an infection..this works for me.

01-05-2006, 12:13 PM	#25
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	clamp and shred the remainder. Had to "swing" one pup with this litter. Tried to stimulate, suction fluids and just couldn't get pup to come around. Swung twice, rubbed and pup came to life. Gracie started knawing on a chord again and there was a lot of blood. Got some 100% cotton thread and tied it off. No problem after that. __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

01-04-2006, 10:05 AM	#17
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	That was a good description. Sorry, I just didn't start back far enough to give the reasoning. One of my last babies was still born and I worked on her for 20 minutes at least. Warming, stimulating, suctioning. swinging, mouth to mouth and was ready to insert theacupuncture needle in the site between nose and upper lip to stimulate respirations. I apologize for leaving some things out when I post. These things are obvious to me because I am a nurse and because I had such a great mentor early in my breeding. Thanx to any of you for filling in the blanks..

01-04-2006, 10:15 AM	#19
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	Kimberly, isn't it the most wonderful feeling to feel a little squirm in the towel and then hear that yelping start? I LOVE it. My hubby looks at me doing mouth-to-mouth and I can just hear his mind saying "Yuk! Those lips won't touch mine for a while!"

01-04-2006, 10:52 AM	#22
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	I have definitley had to "sling" a puppy to get fluid out of it's lungs, air way. The first time I actually saw this done is when I was fairly young, working for a vet in my area when I got out of school. He was doing a c-sec on a litter of bostons and he taught me to do it. I must say I freaked at first, but so glad he taught me as it was useful to me later in life even though I didnt know at the time. As for cutting cords, Irene, I use plain unwaxed dental floss. When Courtney was at the vet being induced, she had one puppy while at the vet's office and they actually put a little stitch in that puppy's cord. It was really neat, and I would like to learn to do that but- would definitely take two people to do though, and since it's usually just me with no assistance when mine are born, that probably won't ever work for me.

01-05-2006, 02:24 PM	#27
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	I use clamps too. I clamp about an inch from the pup and then another clamp by the mom, then I use the dental floss to tie between the two clamps and cut between the floss and the clamp going to mom. I have had problems with my moms cutting the cords too short. (I lost a pup one time because of this and before I knew it the mom had a tear into his stomach.) I then take off the two clamps allowing me to check the pup, rub, etc... I have also had to swing many a pup over the 25 years. I was trained as a vet tech many moons ago before I had yorkies. People would bring in their litters when they came across trouble. I have all my tools ready about a week before birthing and all towels, scissors, clamps - all sterilized. And keep packed up and sealed until its time. T.

01-21-2006, 11:28 PM	#28
Candace_Chang Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 187	Just a question, my puppies has these little thing on their belly button when I got them from the vet ,I believe they cut the cord and left a little and tied with threads.....are those suppose to fall off? if so, when? 2 of my pups have theirs fall out already and it's only been 2 days...but there's not bleeding and they seem fine...I just want to know if it's ok...

01-22-2006, 06:05 AM	#29
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	Yes, this is fine. They were the cords that were attached to their mom. They are suppose to try up and fall off, just like real babies do. T.

01-22-2006, 06:24 AM	#30
011011 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 1,432	I have never tied cords either I always clamp and shred it. My vet told me to not tie them.