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Old 08-28-2013, 06:49 PM   #1
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So let me start off by saying I am going to get both my girl dogs spayed.
My dog Roxy had puppies a year ago. It was planned and the puppies went to my relatives so they all still see each other. She had 4 puppies, 3 girls 1 boy. We kept one of the girls. We were up at my in laws and brought both our girl dogs like we always do because they all love to play. They have the boy dog. As soon as we got there Roxy ran in the back yard with the boy dog and they tied. Then 29 days later we went up there and they put the boy dog in another room so there was no chance of it happening to my other dog and then when we were getting ready to leave one of their friends let the boy dog out and the puppy and him tied. So basically Roxy's son got her knocked up and maybe his sister. Needless to say we don't bring them off there anymore. And we won't until we get them spayed. Roxy is 59 days pregnant and if Puppy is she is 30 days. I am realllyyyy hoping Puppy is not since she is only 3.2 lbs. I asked the vet right after and they told me there is noting I can do.
So now Roxy is pregnant with 4 more puppies and Puppy might be. Has anyone had a dog that little have babies? I am really worried about her.
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I feel very sad for your dogs, especially the puppy. You should of had her spayed as soon as she went out of heat. Her life can very well be in danger. I pray she is not pregnant. It is not to late to have her spayed. Talk to your vet about that.

To answer your question, yes, dogs that small get bred and some can have pups naturally but many end up having a c-section or worse they die from a ruptured uterus.

I pray everything goes well with both. Please let us know how it turns out.
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Don't ever go to that vet again, his response was 100% wrong. Go see another vet now, not sure if they can do an emergency spay now...but your going to need this vet for when she delivers. Your pup is at a very, very, very high risk.

Others will be along...gosh, I'm really dumbfounded here....Please do find a decent vet asap.
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"Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." Puppy is only 3.2 lbs.do an emergency spay now........It is not to late to have her spayed.Don't ever go to that vet again, his response was 100% wrong. Go see another vet now........Her life can very well be in danger.
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OMG ! Your vet said nothing can be done Well he's a moron & there most certainly is something you can do. EMERGENCY SPAY ASAP ! I fully believe he told you that because he's seeing $$$$$$$ Because what he SHOULD have said is " It would be in her BEST INTEREST to do a spay first thing in the morning " But since he didn't, you NEED a new vet NOW.
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In addition to what the others said, your girl is too young to risk a breeding.

Find another vet now or you are truly taking your puppy's life in your hands.
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I am absolutely stunned and amazed that the male dog can instantaneously tie with these females! Usually, there is a little meet and greet, and then flirting and dancing around before the male mounts and ties....at least 2-3 minutes where an owner can QUICKLY see what as happened and intervene IMMEDIATELY to prevent the impending act.....and in a tiny little maiden pup, it takes longer than 2 seconds for the male to get to the baby and "do the deed". I think you need to be suspect of the itentions of these people that "accidentally" let this intact male dog breed these two females.....I am sorry, but I think they planned the entire events, and I can not immagine why this little 3# baby was allowed to even get to 30-something days before she was rushed to a vet and the pregnancy was terminated with an immediate spay. This 3# baby is in danger and you have every reason to be worried about her....this could very easil;y kill her. You should find a vet that has the knowledge and experience to recognize this situation for what it is, and will spay this little puppy IMMEDIATELY. Sooooooooo much time has been wasted, but it is still not too late to save this puppy's life.....not to mention the genetic time bombs you are cultivating with the inbreeding you are doing. This is sooooooooooooooo sad.....these poor, unfortunate souls have absolutely NO ONE looking out for their best interest..........
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Does the puppy even have a name?
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Puppy is only 14 months old per the OP's earlier posts. Very, very sad and irresponsible.
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I also just noticed that every post the OP has made has been about having puppies since she joined.
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I am absolutely stunned and amazed that the male dog can instantaneously tie with these females! Usually, there is a little meet and greet, and then flirting and dancing around before the male mounts and ties....at least 2-3 minutes where an owner can QUICKLY see what as happened and intervene IMMEDIATELY to prevent the impending act.....and in a tiny little maiden pup, it takes longer than 2 seconds for the male to get to the baby and "do the deed". I think you need to be suspect of the itentions of these people that "accidentally" let this intact male dog breed these two females.....I am sorry, but I think they planned the entire events, and I can not immagine why this little 3# baby was allowed to even get to 30-something days before she was rushed to a vet and the pregnancy was terminated with an immediate spay. This 3# baby is in danger and you have every reason to be worried about her....this could very easil;y kill her. You should find a vet that has the knowledge and experience to recognize this situation for what it is, and will spay this little puppy IMMEDIATELY. Sooooooooo much time has been wasted, but it is still not too late to save this puppy's life.....not to mention the genetic time bombs you are cultivating with the inbreeding you are doing. This is sooooooooooooooo sad.....these poor, unfortunate souls have absolutely NO ONE looking out for their best interest..........
Some experienced males can be very quick if the female is willing and ready. It can take a matter of seconds. In this case we don't know how long the male and young female were together since someone else let the male out.

I would be very concerned about this being an inbreeding. There is a very good chance for some birth deformities.
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I'm confused about why anyone would bring their females in heat to a home with an intact male, and one that is related to them A few years ago when my 3lb little one came into heat, (even though I kept them apart) I was so worried my little male might have still got to her (her daddy) that she went right to the vet and was spayed, no problem at all. I wasn't about to take any chances on one that tiny having pups. I would think an emergency spay could still be done before she gets much further along.
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I'm confused about why anyone would bring their females in heat to a home with an intact male, and one that is related to them A few years ago when my 3lb little one came into heat, (even though I kept them apart) I was so worried my little male might have still got to her (her daddy) that she went right to the vet and was spayed, no problem at all. I wasn't about to take any chances on one that tiny having pups. I would think an emergency spay could still be done before she gets much further along.
These intact, in heat females were obviously left unsupervised and unobserved while in the presence of an intact male, however they managed to "get together". I have experienced males, and it still takes a minute or two for them to get mounted and tied. If the dogs were being watched as astutely as any female in heat being around an intact male should have been, this could have been stopped. These girls should have been crated, or the male should have been crated ESPECIALLY after the initial "mistake" of the male getting let out and breeding his mom. That little maiden certainly did not know what was happening and I do not think a male could have rushed her, mounted her and got her bred before someone could have intervened. Now if the dogs were being allowed to run and play together, unsupervised, sure.....not at all out of the question.....but SURELY, in heat females were not allowed to run with an intact male simply because they all "love to play together"?????? I hear about them accidnetally getting put together.....I guess I just am incapable of getting my mind around this situation ever taking place at all, let alone happening twice during the same visit. I am sorry..... Someone in that house wanted those two females bred. OP needs to address that issue.
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These intact, in heat females were obviously left unsupervised and unobserved while in the presence of an intact male, however they managed to "get together". I have experienced males, and it still takes a minute or two for them to get mounted and tied. If the dogs were being watched as astutely as any female in heat being around an intact male should have been, this could have been stopped. These girls should have been crated, or the male should have been crated ESPECIALLY after the initial "mistake" of the male getting let out and breeding his mom. That little maiden certainly did not know what was happening and I do not think a male could have rushed her, mounted her and got her bred before someone could have intervened. Now if the dogs were being allowed to run and play together, unsupervised, sure.....not at all out of the question.....but SURELY, in heat females were not allowed to run with an intact male simply because they all "love to play together"?????? I hear about them accidnetally getting put together.....I guess I just am incapable of getting my mind around this situation ever taking place at all, let alone happening twice during the same visit. I am sorry..... Someone in that house wanted those two females bred. OP needs to address that issue.
It was not the same visit. The puppy's mom got bred about 59 days ago. She is definitely pregnant and ready to have 4 pups. The puppy got bred by her brother 29 days after the mom was bred. They don't know yet if she is pregnant. A brother to sister breeding is not good. The mother to son is also risky. I hope the op keeps us updated on how it turns out. The size of the puppy really concerns me.
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So let me start off by saying I am going to get both my girl dogs spayed.
My dog Roxy had puppies a year ago. It was planned and the puppies went to my relatives so they all still see each other. She had 4 puppies, 3 girls 1 boy. We kept one of the girls. We were up at my in laws and brought both our girl dogs like we always do because they all love to play. They have the boy dog. As soon as we got there Roxy ran in the back yard with the boy dog and they tied. Then 29 days later we went up there and they put the boy dog in another room so there was no chance of it happening to my other dog and then when we were getting ready to leave one of their friends let the boy dog out and the puppy and him tied. So basically Roxy's son got her knocked up and maybe his sister. Needless to say we don't bring them off there anymore. And we won't until we get them spayed. Roxy is 59 days pregnant and if Puppy is she is 30 days. I am realllyyyy hoping Puppy is not since she is only 3.2 lbs. I asked the vet right after and they told me there is noting I can do.
So now Roxy is pregnant with 4 more puppies and Puppy might be. Has anyone had a dog that little have babies? I am really worried about her.
Categorically there is something that can be done, and most especially should be done with the brother to sister mating. See the link below. I don't know where your vet went to school but he was 100% wrong about there being nothing that can be done. In fact you can take action right now to terminate the young gals pregnancy. Find a vet who knows what they are doing. As you wish to spay anyway, just go that route now and do an emergency spay. Trust me it will be much less risky than letting a 3.2 lb young female to try to whelp puppies. And why risk bringing in puppies to the world that can have a whole host of problems from being way too closely related

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