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[Oliver1]

I just got my first male. He is about 12 weeks old. I want him to remain in the house with the other dogs (and us). How do I train him not to mark. I worry that if I correct him when he does it he might be too fearful to mate. Is this a misconception? I already know about belly bands and am willing to do this but if I could just teach him not to that would be nice. Any advice would be very appreciated!

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by Oliver1

I just got my first male. He is about 12 weeks old. I want him to remain in the house with the other dogs (and us). How do I train him not to mark. I worry that if I correct him when he does it he might be too fearful to mate. Is this a misconception? I already know about belly bands and am willing to do this but if I could just teach him not to that would be nice. Any advice would be very appreciated!

Welcome to YT!
I was going to say have him neutered as soon as his growth plates close, but you have intentions of breeding him. Correcting him to do so is the only way. You can encourage him to mark outside, and discourage inside. Just know that letting him breed, he will have the urge to mark more just to show off for the females. Be careful with belly bands also. Left on to long isn't good for them. Think of it as leaving a diaper on a child for too long. Not good.

[YorkieRose]

Question...is there anyone here who has used a male for stud had the good fortune to prevent marking? I have owned many studs, never had one not pee on everything once he started breeding...belly bands were the only thing that worked...just wondering, is it possible to have a stud be clean inside all the time?

[maggiesmom_2007]

Pat if you find out let me know. Cruz is the first male I have owned and he is 8 months and has to wear a Belly band. I can just imagine what I will be going through when he starts breeding. I had a friend make me some Satin Belly bands and I prefer them to any other material.

[Brooklynn]

I don't know an intact male that doesn't mark everywhere and like someone said when you find one let me know. They only get worse when they start breeding and boy do they! Radar marks everywhere well he thinks he does because he has a belly band on all the time! I'd say neuter him and let him be a happy pet and not have to worry about it

[YorkieRose]

Long time back and friend swore up and down her stud never peed in the house and since he was a newly finished champion, he was doted on a bit more(her first)...one day we decided to wall paper her formal, out of the way, dining room which she never used...
In one corner, there was an overpowering odor of urine...of course I got on my hands and knees and put my nose to it...carpet was ruined, padding too..floor was strained...then we found two corners of the table clothe totally saturated with many old, dried stains...then the bottoms of the drapes..

My friend ripped out the carpet, got new drapes etc...and started over....and her stud was put in the kennel to pee to his hearts desire.

[bjh]

All my males have always marked, some worst than other. It is weird how good they can be when no females are in heat but as soon as there is a female in heat in the house the leg hiking starts and the barking, whining and pacing begins. It is not just the males that mark. Intact females are just as bad. I have some that go around peeing everywhere when they are in heat, otherwise they are very good about using the pee pads.

Also, potting training has nothing to do with them becoming fearful to mate. Some males will become fearful to mate when they start humping at a young age and are continually corrected and told 'no'. Sometimes the female will harshly reprimand a young male for humping them and that can also make the male fearful of females. It is not that unusual for a young male to hump a female not in heat or even hump a toy and get an erection with a knot. For these reasons it is best to have a separate area for males and females when the females are in heat.

Also, you cannot tell if a male is breeding quality at 12 weeks. You have to wait until they are older to determine this. For example, if the pup turned out with a bad rear or bad knees you would not want to use him in a breeding program.

[Oliver1]

Originally Posted by bjh

All my males have always marked, some worst than other. It is weird how good they can be when no females are in heat but as soon as there is a female in heat in the house the leg hiking starts and the barking, whining and pacing begins. It is not just the males that mark. Intact females are just as bad. I have some that go around peeing everywhere when they are in heat, otherwise they are very good about using the pee pads.

Also, potting training has nothing to do with them becoming fearful to mate. Some males will become fearful to mate when they start humping at a young age and are continually corrected and told 'no'. Sometimes the female will harshly reprimand a young male for humping them and that can also make the male fearful of females. It is not that unusual for a young male to hump a female not in heat or even hump a toy and get an erection with a knot. For these reasons it is best to have a separate area for males and females when the females are in heat.

Also, you cannot tell if a male is breeding quality at 12 weeks. You have to wait until they are older to determine this. For example, if the pup turned out with a bad rear or bad knees you would not want to use him in a breeding program.

Thanks for all the great responses. I figured that I would not be able to train that marking behaviour out of him but it doesnt hurt to ask. Also if he does start to show qualities that I do not want to pass on to the puppies I definitly would not breed him. But if he is breeding quality I would like to try to start teaching him behaviours that would make his (and my) life more enjoyable.

[TexasKat08]

Originally Posted by bjh

. . .an erection with a knot.

Umm, what the heck is that? Sounds painful and now I've got a very interesting/disturbing mental image. Clearly, I am not a breeder, but I am curious!

[bjh]

Originally Posted by TexasKat08

Umm, what the heck is that? Sounds painful and now I've got a very interesting/disturbing mental image. Clearly, I am not a breeder, but I am curious!

Lol, you have a lot to learn. When dogs breed the bulbus glandis of the male's penis swells inside the bitch's vagina and they tie. Usually a tie can last anywhere from a few seconds to 1 hour long. They are literally stuck together. If the bulbus glandis swells without being inserted in the female then the male will have it all hanging out until the swelling goes down. I know it sounds graphic but it is just part of breeding. Just do a search on google for bulbus glandis and you will see some graphic images of what I am talking about. I would post links but some people might find it offensive.

[TexasKat08]

Originally Posted by bjh

Just do a search on google for bulbus glandis and you will see some graphic images of what I am talking about. I would post links but some people might find it offensive.

AAAAHHHHH! MY EYES, MY EYES!! Graphic images is right! Should have waited until after dinner to run that google search. EEEEK!

[shodanusmc]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I don't know an intact male that doesn't mark everywhere and like someone said when you find one let me know. They only get worse when they start breeding and boy do they! Radar marks everywhere well he thinks he does because he has a belly band on all the time! I'd say neuter him and let him be a happy pet and not have to worry about it

I have a question. Is this just a Yorkie Male thing? I did not have Carlo neutered until he was 15 months old as they are slow to mature, and after he was house trained, at about 3 1/2 months old, he never went in the house, or marked anything. Same as with my Male Golden, and several other Males we have had over the years. As a kid, we also had a mutt that was never neutered as we did not know better, and he never did. However, he did take off quite a bit, and after several years, more and more dogs started looking just like him!

[bjh]

Originally Posted by TexasKat08

AAAAHHHHH! MY EYES, MY EYES!! Graphic images is right! Should have waited until after dinner to run that google search. EEEEK!

Lol, can't say I didn't warn you.

[francis53]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

I have a question. Is this just a Yorkie Male thing? I did not have Carlo neutered until he was 15 months old as they are slow to mature, and after he was house trained, at about 3 1/2 months old, he never went in the house, or marked anything. Same as with my Male Golden, and several other Males we have had over the years. As a kid, we also had a mutt that was never neutered as we did not know better, and he never did. However, he did take off quite a bit, and after several years, more and more dogs started looking just like him!

I was wondering the same thing as my male yorkie (he has been used for breeding) marks terrible in my house, but years ago I had a male austrailian sheperd also not neutered yet he never went in the house ever. How I long for those days sometimes, lol.

[bjh]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

I have a question. Is this just a Yorkie Male thing? I did not have Carlo neutered until he was 15 months old as they are slow to mature, and after he was house trained, at about 3 1/2 months old, he never went in the house, or marked anything. Same as with my Male Golden, and several other Males we have had over the years. As a kid, we also had a mutt that was never neutered as we did not know better, and he never did. However, he did take off quite a bit, and after several years, more and more dogs started looking just like him!

I think a lot of it has to do with owner training, the personality of the dog and whether the male is used for breeding and/or kept around females in heat. Perhaps yorkie owners get a little to lax with the training, after all it is easy to clean up a little puddle versus a big puddle.