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Old 03-23-2009, 05:03 AM   #136
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I agree.

It's a deja vu thing though.

If only the OP would send a PM to the moderator & request that this thread be closed. However, I think the OP stopped reading this thread a while ago, so someone would have to PM the request to the OP first.


Well I did and have a copy on my pm and it never got closed, so I figure they wanted it to go on. I actually requested it the day after I posted it, when I saw it was getting out of hand. I actually posted very soon after as you can see below:

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Hi there.. could you close the post on glenda beavers pups that I posted in the gen section? Didn't realize it was going to start up a stink LOL

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Old 03-23-2009, 05:06 AM   #137
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Actually I requested this the very NEXT day
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Yes, there was and I wish I had kept all that a YT member here sent me. If that YT member is reading this maybe you can post it or if you want to be annonymous just send it to me again. And, in response to the YT member that asked if the store in question was puppy love in Danbury CT. YES, that is the store. As a matter of fact when all of this started I received some disturbing emails from a person I believe to be either the owner or connected to the store. Elaine
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Well I did and have a copy on my pm and it never got closed, so I figure they wanted it to go on. I actually requested it the day after I posted it, when I saw it was getting out of hand. I actually posted very soon after as you can see below:

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Hi there.. could you close the post on glenda beavers pups that I posted in the gen section? Didn't realize it was going to start up a stink LOL

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Does Glenda still sell to petstores or was this only a few times. You know we all make mistakes in our lives. Everyone of us Dont keep judging her and beating her up to pieces unless she sells everyday to petstores...If this was a one time thing let it go and forgive. Im sure she learned a lesson. Please stop putting her on the chopping block....
If it were just a one time shipment, that she acknowledged and corrected that would be one thing, but it wasn't just one. This was numerous shipments with the most recent, we are aware of in Aug. 08, I believe. Aside from the number of shipments is the fact that she has been in the exhibitor/breeder arena for some time now and she did know better!
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If it were just a one time shipment, that she acknowledged and corrected that would be one thing, but it wasn't just one. This was numerous shipments with the most recent, we are aware of in Aug. 08, I believe. Aside from the number of shipments is the fact that she has been in the exhibitor/breeder arena for some time now and she did know better!
How do you know she knows better, & thinks it's inappropriate?
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If it were just a one time shipment, that she acknowledged and corrected that would be one thing, but it wasn't just one. This was numerous shipments with the most recent, we are aware of in Aug. 08, I believe. Aside from the number of shipments is the fact that she has been in the exhibitor/breeder arena for some time now and she did know better!
Personally, I would rather have people tell me to my face than talk bad about me on a Forum, behind my back. Whats that going to do? Its funny because some people on this thread dont even know this lady are making judgement calls about her..I dont know her, but for those of you that do know her send her emails, phone her or pull her off to the side and give her a piece of your mind. Dont do it behind her back...Thats my point . I dont mean to offend anyone so please dont take it that way....
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Personally, I would rather have people tell me to my face than talk bad about me on a Forum, behind my back. Whats that going to do? Its funny because some people on this thread dont even know this lady are making judgement calls about her..I dont know her, but for those of you that do know her send her emails, phone her or pull her off to the side and give her a piece of your mind. Dont do it behind her back...Thats my point . I dont mean to offend anyone so please dont take it that way....
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I have to disagree. I do not think anyone is talking behind her back. This is an open forum in which she is a member. I'm sure she is reading all the posts or being told about them.

I do not know her. I'm someone with no ties what so ever. I personally do not care whether she breeds beautiful show dogs or is a byb or whether everyone loves her or not. This is not a popularity contest. It's not a witch hunt. It's posts that are based on fact not assumption and irregardless of how one may feel about her these facts should not be ignored.

My only goal in any of this is in helping to stop mills and in order to do this it has to start with stores being supplied. It's a vicious cycle. And, I know this was said already but I think the important point to be made here is that it was not just one shipment. It was many shipments, which in my oppinion shows Glenda as the middle man behind supplying this pet store with stock. She may produce beautiful pups and yes she may even be a nice person but a reputable breeder would never take part in keeping the cycle of mills and pet stores in business, knowing the suffering that goes on behind the doors. The fact she has done this makes her no better then the miller. It's sad but it's all about the $$ and when money is involved it sometimes makes us turn a blind eye.

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I don't care if she found the puppies on the street. She still sent puppies to a petstore and this came straight from her. Like I said, I wouldn't have bought from her based on what I knew before the petstore stuff came out but that made it worse. I have really really high standards fir the next breeder I'd buy from and glenda does not meet those standards
What exactly did you know about her before the petstore stuff came out? I have a male from her who is beautiful and have seen several threads on here regarding her and her dogs and only seen positive things. I agree that the petstore stuff is horrible and after looking up more about it I'm guessing will not get another dog from her and stop recommending her if I find out its true but I'm very curious, before that what you had against her.
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Well, there is certainly no doubt about how many of you feel about Glenda Beavers...you've made yourself perfectly clear - over and over. I hope you never make a mistake or do something you just might regret later. I have never seen such a judgemental bunch...I only hope that those of you that think you are without fault are really as perfect as you think you are! Just out of curiosity - have any of you ever dealt with Glenda personally or even spoken to her, or are you just basing this animosity on things you have read or seen posted on Yorkie Talk - a message board? I really thought this forum was to help people, not to sit in judgement of them....You all state you want to stop puppy mills, it has never been an accusation that Glenda Beavers runs a puppy mill has it??? I still have not seen one negative post from anyone that has personally dealt with or has one of Glenda's dogs. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Well, there is certainly no doubt about how many of you feel about Glenda Beavers...you've made yourself perfectly clear - over and over. I hope you never make a mistake or do something you just might regret later. I have never seen such a judgemental bunch...I only hope that those of you that think you are without fault are really as perfect as you think you are! Just out of curiosity - have any of you ever dealt with Glenda personally or even spoken to her, or are you just basing this animosity on things you have read or seen posted on Yorkie Talk - a message board? I really thought this forum was to help people, not to sit in judgement of them....You all state you want to stop puppy mills, it has never been an accusation that Glenda Beavers runs a puppy mill has it??? I still have not seen one negative post from anyone that has personally dealt with or has one of Glenda's dogs. Please correct me if I am wrong.
First off what has been posted on a "message board" has been proven through authentic documentation that has been posted right here on YT. Secondly, a mistake is something you do once, maybe even twice or even three times but not something you've continually played a part in. And, it's also not a favor for a friend. Glenda may not run a puppymill but she is surely supplying a petstore with pups that originated from who? A reputable breeder? I'd be interested to see just where these pups originated from. I'd also be willing to place a bet on who the "Reputable Breeders" are that supply this pet store as well as others with their pups.

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I have to disagree. I do not think anyone is talking behind her back. This is an open forum in which she is a member. I'm sure she is reading all the posts or being told about them.

I do not know her. I'm someone with no ties what so ever. I personally do not care whether she breeds beautiful show dogs or is a byb or whether everyone loves her or not. This is not a popularity contest. It's not a witch hunt. It's posts that are based on fact not assumption and irregardless of how one may feel about her these facts should not be ignored.

My only goal in any of this is in helping to stop mills and in order to do this it has to start with stores being supplied. It's a vicious cycle. And, I know this was said already but I think the important point to be made here is that it was not just one shipment. It was many shipments, which in my oppinion shows Glenda as the middle man behind supplying this pet store with stock. She may produce beautiful pups and yes she may even be a nice person but a reputable breeder would never take part in keeping the cycle of mills and pet stores in business, knowing the suffering that goes on behind the doors. The fact she has done this makes her no better then the miller. It's sad but it's all about the $$ and when money is involved it sometimes makes us turn a blind eye.

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First off what has been posted on a "message board" has been proven through authentic documentation that has been posted right here on YT. Secondly, a mistake is something you do once, maybe even twice or even three times but not something you've continually played a part in. And, it's also not a favor for a friend. Glenda may not run a puppymill but she is surely supplying a petstore with pups that originated from who? A reputable breeder? I'd be interested to see just where these pups originated from. I'd also be willing to place a bet on who the "Reputable Breeders" are that supply this pet store as well as others with their pups.

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I don't think I am defending her actions, I just don't see this action as harmful as some of you do. Perhaps some of you believe that a breeder shouldn't even be a friend with someone who owns of pet store, I found that some of my friends do have different values. Sometimes we bend our own values to help out a friend.

I will continue to ask people to not buy from pet stores and over the Internet because the majority of those dogs come from puppy mills, and that's one way to fight puppy mills, however, if all the dogs supplied to pet stores came from humane breeders, I wouldn't have a problem with pets being sold or ordered through pet stores, as long as certain conditions were meant. I also think pet stores should have the right to refuse certain customers, and that's my primary fault of pet stores. So few breeders really scrutinize customers, and this is something I wish more of them did.
Thank you for a little bit of common sense.

I know there is a lot of passion around this issue, but the kind of witch hunt that this thread and others like it have turned into just turns my stomach.

Honestly, I read stories of Yorkie abuse at least once a week from people right here on the forum who love their pups, but are clueless about what they really need. People who don't get their dogs to the vet when they need to, use inappropriate discipline, put them in unsafe environments. To hear people on this forum, you would think only breeders are abusive.

No matter who you are or how you deal with your dog, there will be someone who thinks they're doing it better and will condemn you. They always start a sentence with, "Nobody who loves their dog would ever..."

I hope some of you will take a good hard long look in the mirror before you decide to join in the type of character assasination that's going on here.
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